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   A 76-year-old woman underwent left pneumonectomy for the treatment of a squamous cell carcinoma. A routine chest radiograph was obtained 6 months after the operation (see Image A). Two weeks later, the patient presents with a cough, a fever, and the production of large amount of brown sputum; another chest radiograph is obtained (see Image B). What is the abnormality shown on the most recent chest radiograph?
 

   
   

 
  
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Tim May wrote:

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  Iraqi arms violations - Powell lays it on the line 
Read
more here . . . 
[Jane's Defence Weekly - 11 February 2003]
  Updated Torbay returns to Royal Navy service
HMS Torbay, the first of four UK Royal Navy (RN) Trafalgar-class
nuclear
attack submarines (SSNs) to receive the Swiftsure and Trafalgar
(S&T)
Final Phase tactical weapon system update package, has returned to
service
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  Blair, Chirac look to co-operate on future carrier production
The French government is to examine whether France could tie its
plan
to build a second aircraft carrier into the UK's programme to
construct
two new-generation carriers for entry into service in 2012 and
2015, President
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[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to http://jdw.janes.com
- 7 February 2003]
  UK awards unmanned underwater research package
The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) has awarded applied systems and
software
house Systems Engineering and Assessment (SEA) a Pds7 million
($11.5 million)
contract to conduct a three-year package of unmanned underwater
vehicle
(UUV) research as part of the MoD's research competition pilot
initiative.
[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to http://jdw.janes.com
- 7 February 2003]
  Canada's marine security boost
The Canadian government has announced a C$172.5 million (US$113.3
million)
marine security enhancement package that provides for improved
screening
of ships' crews, passengers and cargo, as well as increased
surveillance
and tracking of marine traffic.
[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to http://jdw.janes.com
- 7 February 2003]
  Artillery system targeted for ships
A German industry consortium has completed a ship-fitting trial to
demonstrate
the feasibility of using a derivative of the PzH 2000 155mm/52-cal
self-propelled
artillery system for naval applications.
[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to http://jdw.janes.com
- 7 February 2003]
  Second UK Royal Navy River-class OPV launched
HMS Severn, the UK Royal Navy's (RN's) second River-class
offshore-patrol
vessel (OPV) was launched from Vosper Thornycroft (VT)
Shipbuilding's
Woolston shipyards on 4 December 2002.
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  DCN's SMX-21 shows innovative submarine design
DCN of France displayed a conceptual multirole, reconfigurable
submarine
- the SMX-21 - at the 2002 Euronaval show in Paris in October
2002.
[Jane's Navy International - first posted to http://jni.janes.com
- 12 December 2002]
  USMC deploys fast cat to Southeast Asia
The US Marine Corps (USMC) is utilising the Austal Ships' fast
sealift
catamaran Westpac Express to transport combat forces based on
Okinawa
to Southeast Asia, as part of the US military's wider campaign
against
terrorism in the region.
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> He talks the talk, but his Justice Department continues to enforce 
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Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

[Tim May]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 07:36  PM, Andri Esteves wrote:


On Thursday, 13 de February de 2003 02:02, you wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 05:04  PM, Andri Esteves wrote:

Everything that could go wrong in academia and science is in 
Portugal.

That is the background Magueijo comes from...

I sat in a bookstore and read most of his book several weeks ago. A 
few
comments:

First, I kept looking for a clear description of the theory, with
convincing details, support, etc. I didn't find it. I instead found a
lot of stuff about peeing outside a bar in some tropical place, 
stories
about his girlfriend, insults he delivered to editors at "Nature," and
on and on. Sort of a "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Quantum
Gravity." (Pun with Smolin's title intended.)

You still read science popularizers ?

If you like science you should go to the source. I can't read many 
tecnhical
articles, but good sinopses and conclusions give you an idea of the 
article's
inplications. Just have to build a field mind map of an area...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with reading popularizers.

Unlike you, I see great value in reading overviews by folks like Brian 
Greene, Lee Smolin, and John Barrow before digging in to the arXives at 
xxx.lanl.gov.

Second, I don't know about Hawking's books, but Lee Smolin is one of
the current popularizers who have done excellent jobs. I recommend 
both
of his books. His own "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" is crystal 
clear
in describing several of the competing theories. Smolin also explains
what's really important. (Check the archives for my past comments on
Smolin and topos theory, for example, from last summer.)

Never heard of him... Books are very expensive in Portugal...
As the publishing houses in portugal mainly publish religious or 
black-magic
themes... I will probably read it in english...

He's one of Magueijo's collaborators on VSL, so if you have not heard 
of him you should not be commenting at all.

Third, I have no idea if the VSL theory is "right." Time will tell.


At least there is some experimental work on it. Wich tons of theorical 
work
in physics don't even try to achieve and with blessing of the 
establishment...

This is a silly comment. There are experimental results in many areas 
of physics, including at the frontiers.

What can i say... Career or science. Are you part of the problem or of 
the
solution??
...

Venal comments.

--Tim May
"As my father told me long ago, the objective is not to convince someone
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Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

[André Esteves]

On Thursday, 13 de February de 2003 02:02, you wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 05:04  PM, Andri Esteves wrote:
> > Everything that could go wrong in academia and science is in Portugal.
> >
> > That is the background Magueijo comes from...
>
> I sat in a bookstore and read most of his book several weeks ago. A few
> comments:
>
> First, I kept looking for a clear description of the theory, with
> convincing details, support, etc. I didn't find it. I instead found a
> lot of stuff about peeing outside a bar in some tropical place, stories
> about his girlfriend, insults he delivered to editors at "Nature," and
> on and on. Sort of a "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Quantum
> Gravity." (Pun with Smolin's title intended.)

You still read science popularizers ?

If you like science you should go to the source. I can't read many tecnhical 
articles, but good sinopses and conclusions give you an idea of the article's 
inplications. Just have to build a field mind map of an area...

And after some time you get the ability to find if someone is bulshiting you 
on the "popularizing" front...

e-print is great...

> > There is a NEED for destructive purification in today's science.
>
> Second, I don't know about Hawking's books, but Lee Smolin is one of
> the current popularizers who have done excellent jobs. I recommend both
> of his books. His own "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" is crystal clear
> in describing several of the competing theories. Smolin also explains
> what's really important. (Check the archives for my past comments on
> Smolin and topos theory, for example, from last summer.)

Never heard of him... Books are very expensive in Portugal... 
As the publishing houses in portugal mainly publish religious or black-magic 
themes... I will probably read it in english...

> Hawking writes about fairly established stuff, the usual black hole
> stuff. This was mostly old hat 30 years ago (which is when I took Jim
> Hartle's class on general relativity). Hawking doesn't get much into
> the newer theories, at least not in any of the books of his I've
> skimmed.
>
> (One of my texts 30 years ago was the Hawking and Ellis book, "The
> Large Scale Structure of Spacetime." This was heavy going, not the
> popular fluff he's been turning out lately.)
>
> Third, I have no idea if the VSL theory is "right." Time will tell.

At least there is some experimental work on it. Wich tons of theorical work 
in physics don't even try to achieve and with blessing of the establishment...

>
> Fourth, but I will say that Magueijo undercuts his arguments with his
> scatological denunciations of the establishment. I'll be the first to
> say that I am not always polite, but if I were publishing papers and
> attempting to get math or crypto results accepted, I doubt this
> approach would work:

What can i say... Career or science. Are you part of the problem or of the 
solution??

Computers and mathematics are a bit diferent from physics, in that the 
materialization of your ideas can have a vast laboratory in other people's 
computers... You could try a diferent way of doing criptoscience if you built 
a diferent comunity.

But if you only want the recognition of "certain individuals" and "certain 
establishments" what can i say?!  Everybody wants 3 meals a day...
It will not be me to judge that badly...

One of my problems is that there could be people doing real research on their 
part-time and the paid-ones don't even let them be heard...

> "The crypto community is filled with dumbshit charlatans. I piss on
> them. I piss on Rivest. I was taking a leak outside a bar in Maracaibo
> and it hit me: cyphers are just like big turds."
>
> Maybe he doesn't fully understand English and has some idea that
> interspersing vulgarities with scientific points is the cool thing to
> do.

Maybe he should point out things like you did it right now...
Well.. fed up portuguese are not really englishmen...
But he at least gave some emotion to it? Didn't he?! :)

> However, I'll bet he ends up at a U.S. university, particularly if the
> VSL theory gains any kind of acceptance. He spoke of one of his
> colleagues who landed at UC Davis recently.

Yes, he will. Americans love collecting "things". I remember Einstein 
commenting why he had to receive in his office, every VIP in the IAS in 
Princeton: "You see, I have been bought by Mr Flesher for the IAS and he has 
to have some return for the investment..."

Yours faithfully,

André Esteves

Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

[Eric Cordian]

Tim wrote:

> Third, I have no idea if the VSL theory is "right." Time will tell.

Continuous math is a dead end.  So are strings.

The manifold folks are never going to produce anything which obsoletes the
big general relativity book by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler, which will
live forever as the apex of predictive power of the manifold approach to
spacetime dynamics.

That doesn't mean we won't find some deviation in the 10th decimal place
of some experiment which tantalizingly hints at things beyond.  In terms
of things we can do useful engineering with, however, there is absolutely
nothing we will find ourselves able to do in 11 dimensions which can't be
done in 4.

Moving beyond general relativity will require a completely new way of
thinking about the problem, not just extra dimensions and the attempted
quantization of gravity.  Or loudly trumpeted discoveries that the speed
of light differed in the 9th decimal place several billion years ago.

The "M" in M-Theory stands for Moron. 

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Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

[Tim May]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 05:04  PM, Andri Esteves wrote:

Everything that could go wrong in academia and science is in Portugal.

That is the background Magueijo comes from...

But, it is not only in Portugal... Everywhere science has declined, as 
it
becomes part of the political logic of governments, ideologies and 
power
groups...

I sat in a bookstore and read most of his book several weeks ago. A few 
comments:

First, I kept looking for a clear description of the theory, with 
convincing details, support, etc. I didn't find it. I instead found a 
lot of stuff about peeing outside a bar in some tropical place, stories 
about his girlfriend, insults he delivered to editors at "Nature," and 
on and on. Sort of a "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Quantum 
Gravity." (Pun with Smolin's title intended.)


There is a NEED for destructive purification in today's science.

Popularization of science should not be taken as the stupid adoration 
of
uncompreensible speeches from the so called "great popularisers of 
science".

Does the common man read his Hawking's book? Did Hawking even write it?

Second, I don't know about Hawking's books, but Lee Smolin is one of 
the current popularizers who have done excellent jobs. I recommend both 
of his books. His own "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" is crystal clear 
in describing several of the competing theories. Smolin also explains 
what's really important. (Check the archives for my past comments on 
Smolin and topos theory, for example, from last summer.)

Hawking writes about fairly established stuff, the usual black hole 
stuff. This was mostly old hat 30 years ago (which is when I took Jim 
Hartle's class on general relativity). Hawking doesn't get much into 
the newer theories, at least not in any of the books of his I've 
skimmed.

(One of my texts 30 years ago was the Hawking and Ellis book, "The 
Large Scale Structure of Spacetime." This was heavy going, not the 
popular fluff he's been turning out lately.)

Third, I have no idea if the VSL theory is "right." Time will tell.

Fourth, but I will say that Magueijo undercuts his arguments with his 
scatological denunciations of the establishment. I'll be the first to 
say that I am not always polite, but if I were publishing papers and 
attempting to get math or crypto results accepted, I doubt this 
approach would work:

"The crypto community is filled with dumbshit charlatans. I piss on 
them. I piss on Rivest. I was taking a leak outside a bar in Maracaibo 
and it hit me: cyphers are just like big turds."

Maybe he doesn't fully understand English and has some idea that 
interspersing vulgarities with scientific points is the cool thing to 
do.

However, I'll bet he ends up at a U.S. university, particularly if the 
VSL theory gains any kind of acceptance. He spoke of one of his 
colleagues who landed at UC Davis recently.

--Tim May

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Re: New Scientist - Joao Magueijo - Hero or Heretic? (fwd)

[André Esteves]

On Wednesday, 12 de February de 2003 23:47, you wrote:
> http://www.newscientist.com/opinion/opinterview.jsp?id=ns23811
>

Magueijo may seem to be going too far on the scientific establishment for an 
anglo-saxon. But for a fellow portuguese with the same critique, as magueijo 
is a portuguese natural living in England his opinions seem rather tame.

Portuguese academia is state suported for more than 800 years, it has become 
a corporative octopus where the intelligentsia families take the same 
department positions, year after year, century after century.

Our former fascist dictator was an economics professor (wich he didn't really 
understand...).

All the physical sciences have long been despised and only the engineering 
departments have some reputation. But only has providers of technocrats, more 
apt to manage people than to create or invent...

With 1974 Revolution, many returning scientists expected for a change.

It hasn't happened. There are now laboratories in Portugal, better equiped 
than those in France, England or the USA, but with no technicians or experts 
to work with the machines... The university departments have become expert at 
gaining funds from international bodies but because of labirintic admission 
policies and vested interests the money and equipment disapear or are 
forgotten.

Articles of no quality are published and there are people who never have 
written original work with page long curriculum's...

Everything that could go wrong in academia and science is in Portugal.

That is the background Magueijo comes from...

But, it is not only in Portugal... Everywhere science has declined, as it 
becomes part of the political logic of governments, ideologies and power 
groups...

There is a NEED for destructive purification in today's science.

Popularization of science should not be taken as the stupid adoration of 
uncompreensible speeches from the so called "great popularisers of science".

Does the common man read his Hawking's book? Did Hawking even write it?

Everybody should be a tinkerer and a scientist at heart!! Or at least have an 
honest and decent oportunity to be one!!!

Yours faithfully,

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[Jim Choate]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:50:04 -0600 (CST)
Subject: February 15th Protests

Saturday February 15th has been designated an international day of protest
against war in Iraq.  Organized protests will be occurring in at least 431
cities around the world.
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=725

Here are some details.

In NYC, for the first time ever, a court has upheld the denial of a permit
for a protest march.  Instead, the "uncontrolled peace march"ers will be
confined to a stationary rally point on First Avenue and 49th street,
extending uptown.  Confirmed speakers and performers include:
Nobel Laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King III, Julian
Bond, Mos Def, Patti Smith, Holly Near, Tony Kushner, Welfare Poets.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0307/ferguson2.php
http://www.nirs.org/Feb15info.htm
http://unitedforpeace.org/article.php?list=sub&sub=30

In Austin, there will be a rally at the State Capitol and a march down
Congress.

On Saturday, February 15, at 1:00 pm, concerned Austinites will join
people around the country and around the world in protesting the
impending war on Iraq. UT Prof. Robert Jensen will emcee. Speakers
include author and activist Rahul Mahajan, a Gulf War veteran, UT  Prof.
Dana Cloud, and Lisa Krebs, a UT student activist. Music by Guy Forsyth.
It will be followed by a march down Congress Avenue. Massive outreach is
needed. To download flyers for printing and distribution,  see
http://www.austinagainstwar.org/events.html
Location: State Capitol, 11th and Congress.

In Houston, protests will be rallying in Eleanor Tinsley Park, along Allen
Parkway.
http://www.tuaw.org/f15hou/

In San Antonio, activists will be marching for peace from Hemisfair Park
(The Tower of Americas) to Milam park.
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=1697

In Seattle, activists will gather at the Seattle Center at 11:30 (Fisher
Pavillion/Center Fountain), rally at noon, and march at 1pm to the Federal
Building and the INS Detention Center.  I like that they are encouraging
everyone to bring a red flower of some sort to leave at the march
destinations. http://www.feb15.org/

In Dallas, protestors will gather behind the Guadalupe Cathedral,
2215 Ross @ 1pm, march @ 1:30pm to Kennedy Memorial, stopping briefly at
symbolic locations, and rally @ 3:00 pm at the Kennedy Memorial, including
speakers, music, and more.
http://www.dallaspeacecenter.org/

In Flagstaff, protestors will convene at Wheeler Park (Humphries and
Aspen?) at noon then parade downtown.
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=1607

In Phoenix, activists will rally in Patriot's Square Park and march
through downtown...
http://www.spidel.net/justice/march.htm

In Paris...  it sounds like the rally point is à 14h Place Denfert
Rochereau, with a march on the Bastille...
http://france.attac.org/site/page.php?idpage=2208

I encourage participation in this day's events.  Cats up in NYC, keep your
heads about ya, as I imagine that's going to be a major focal point.
After all, it's a march for peace.


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[James A. Donald]

--
Steve wrote quoting: PAUL KRUGMAN
> > And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media,
> > a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power   a fear that
> > he will wimp out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do
> > what is needed to rebuild Iraq   is a large factor in the
> > growing rift between Europe and the United States.

On 12 Feb 2003 at 1:21, Lucky Green wrote:
> And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the 
> Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than
> the minimum investments required to prevent the population
> from rising up against their future leaders, why should the
> U.S. concern itself with making investments in Iraq not
> directly related to creating and maintaining oil extraction
> and transport facilities?

The arabs hunger for development and modernity.  In the past
they absorbed the worst poisons spewed by western universities,
socialism and anti-imperialist nationalism, and attempted to
apply them, with predictably disastrous results,   Then they
healthily came to reject these foolish and dangerous ideas, and
attempted to return to their roots, with results that were bad
for us as well as them.

The theory of the democratic imperialists is to export better
ideas at gunpoint.  It is far from clear that this will work,
even if tried honestly and vigorously -- we are running into a
bit of trouble applying it in Kosovo.  It is also far from
clear that the US has the necessary will and virtue to apply it
in Iraq.

The Germans and the French are not very keen on doing it at
all, but realizing that position is unpopular, instead say they
doubt the US will to do it. 

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>
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Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

[R. A. Hettinga]

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At 1:21 AM -0800 on 2/12/03, Lucky Green wrote:

> And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the
> Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the
> minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising
> up against their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself
> with making investments in Iraq not directly related to creating
> and maintaining oil extraction and transport facilities?

Apropos of nothing, here's what I wrote yesterday about the entire
article, remembering that Charles Rangel claims to want the draft
back, straw man or not:

At 12:14 PM -0500 2/11/03, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> Wherein we witness the spectacle of Paul Krugman fairly begging
> George Bush to colonize Iraq and Afghanistan.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Almost as amazing as "liberal" democrats begging for a return to
> the draft.
>
> "Liberal" logic continues to implode.
>
> "'Round the bowl, and down the hole..."


I wrote the above yesterday because I'm possessed lately by this
goofy notion that "liberals", and "social democrats", and
"progressives", and all the other refried Marxists out there will
collapse like degenerate electrons against their political opposites
into some kind of statist neutronium someday, resulting in something
with the political prayerbook of the modern small-l (as in
lipservice) libertarian "right", with aisles patrolled the usual
knock-you-on-your-head bluenose-and-busybody deacons of
authoritarianism.

Someday.

This was brought on by a Bartley editorial in the Wall Street Journal
a little while ago that observed that Bush & Co. are displaying all
the hallmarks of an emerging establishment, operating under the same
implicit rules, the same leaderless ability to turn setbacks into
opportunities, that the original "liberal" elite was able to do after
the cryptosocialists took over the Roosevelt agenda in the 1930's.


Probably just wishful thinking, internet millennialism, and all that,
but, if it does happen, the technology this list advocates be what,
paradoxically, brings that collapse about. Ubiquitous bandwidth,
cryptographic privacy and authentication and so on, pretty much kill
closed societies, especially those who calculate their prices instead
of discover them with markets.


In such a world, actual Big-L Libertarians, as the political
inheritors of that technological and economic whirlwind, will become
the only logical political opposition to that strange-matter amalgam
of refried Marxism and muscular Christianity, both of which, you
notice, *are* pretty much theocrats.


Like modern neocons had to do under the last 70 years of intellectual
occupation, Libertarians will have to considerably sharpen their
arguments and organization, and do so under a deluge of criticism
that will make the recent liberal pulsar sound like background
radiation.


That is, if we don't all just collapse past degenerate neutron
pressure into the event-horizon of crypto-anarcho-captialism, right?
:-).


Cheers,
RAH
Who -- until whatever degenerate political pressure takes hold -- is
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

[cubic-dog]

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Bill Frantz wrote:

> At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote:
> >But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even
> >on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being
> >right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the
> >like would prefer that guns be in the hands of der polizei. There's a
> >reason Hitler confiscated guns held privately by Germans.)
> 
> I thought Ashcroft was on record as stating that the second amendment
> confered an individual right to own arms.  Are his actions are not in
> accord with his words?

His words are pretty much without meaning. All gun laws are
unconstitutional and should be repealed immediately, and
all those who have fallen victim to the legal system as a result
of the enforcement of these laws should be granted restitution.

It is possible that there could be a gun law that would be
constitutional, but no such laws currently exist. 

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Mike Rosing wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Tim May wrote:
> 
> > And so on. He talks the talk, but he and his buddies in HomeSec are
> > establishing a national police force, "states rights" be damned.
> 
> He's proof that you can fool just about everyone simultaneously -
> the NRA supports him inspite of his lack of  of commitment to
> the 2nd.

The NRA is openly hostile towards the "embarrasing 2nd Amendment". 
The NRA is mostly all about allowing the weathly wingshooters to
be the last to fall. The rest of us, like the armed citizens, get
bartered off everytime gun control bill comes to a vote. 

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I can't imagine this is the stupidest, but there's a state office building 
in Missouri where (no doubt due to some Directive From On High), they've 
put up a wooden shack in front of the main entrance, where anyone going in 
or out has to pass through a metal detector.  The wooden shack isn't 
directly in front of the entrance, however--probably, that would make life 
too hard on the smokers, who now have to go outside to smoke.  It's more 
like about 50' in front of it, completely unconnected to the building.

The really entertaining bit is that, since most people going into the 
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The Roman Solution: Fixing the Shuttle safety problems at NASA
by Steven Schear
12 February 2003

Since Columbia's untimely destruction the popular media have been filled 
with stories about the possible failures of systems designed to assure the 
safety of NASA's Space Transportation System (STS).  Engineers at NASA 
often decry the qualifications and motives of management, especially the 
politically appointed.  As in most such failures the roots often lie in 
unrealistic expectations and human shortcomings.

The Lesson from Challenger
When Nobel laureate Richard Feynman was investigating the Challenger 
explosion he received conflicting views about safety from engineers and 
management.  There were enormous differences of opinion as to the 
probability of a failure with loss of vehicle and of human life. The 
estimates ranged from roughly 1 in 100 to 1 in 100,000. The higher figures 
came from the working engineers, and the very low figures from management. 
What were the causes and consequences of this lack of agreement? Since 1 
part in 100,000 would imply that one could put a Shuttle up each day for 
300 years expecting to lose only one, we could properly ask "What was the 
cause of management's fantastic faith in the machinery?"

Management maintained that the higher figures are for unmanned rockets but 
since the Shuttle is a manned vehicle "the probability of mission success 
is necessarily very close to 1.0." It is not very clear what this phrase 
meant. Did it mean it is close to 1 or that it ought to be close to 1? They 
went on to explain "Historically this extremely high degree of mission 
success has given rise to a difference in philosophy between manned space 
flight programs and unmanned programs; i.e., numerical probability usage 
versus engineering judgment."

Richard found that the certification criteria used in Flight Readiness 
Reviews often developed a gradually decreasing strictness. The argument 
that the same risk was flown before without failure is often accepted as an 
argument for the safety of accepting it again. Because of this, obvious 
weaknesses were accepted again and again, sometimes without a sufficiently 
serious attempt to remedy them, or to delay a flight because of their 
continued presence.

I posit that, despite the efforts of a generation of NASA engineers and the 
implied attention to STS safety from both Congress and succeeding 
management, not much has changed in the risks or the manner in which risks 
are assessed and important decisions made.  And why should it?  The basic 
Shuttle technology, while incrementally improved since Challenger, is 
fundamentally the same.  Key incentives to Congress and management have 
been left unchanged.  The fix is simple: honesty and consequences.

The Roman Solution
Two thousand years ago the Roman Empire built what are unarguably some of 
the finest structures.  Their roads, bridges and aqueducts were 
suburb.  Many remain in constant operation with little or no repair. Some 
were only recently replaced.  How were the Romans able to create such 
lasting edifices from then leading edge materials, design and fabrication 
techniques?

In Roman times its architects were some of the best paid and most revered 
in the empire (perhaps second only to leading gladiators).  The invention 
of concrete and the perfection of the arch were Rome's greatest gifts to 
architecture.  Structures using arches often were designed so that 
load-bearing parts were in compression against one another and depended on 
each other for stability.  For arches to be sturdy the stones had to be cut 
and positioned precisely.  Even minor mistakes could spell disaster.  It 
was found that due to the arch's nature faulty designs and construction 
were almost always immediately apparent.  The arch components were held in 
place until completion by a sturdy scaffolding system.  When the 
scaffolding was taken down if the arch stood it would endure.  If not, 
entire structures often immediately failed.  To insure that such accidents 
were rare Roman law decreed that architects would stand beneath the 
scaffold when it was removed.  As a result there were few failures.

I think its time that Congress and NASA treat the Shuttle program as if 
they were actuaries with an insurance company.  They need to publicly 
accept the risks originally calculated by engineers for STS: about 1 loss 
per 100 (events may indicated even that figure may even be optimistic).  If 
both Congress and management continue to tell the public that the STS is 
far safer than results have indicated, that the problems can and will be 
fixed, and that going forward astronaut lives are much less likely be to be 
lost then they should put their money and their lives where their mouths 
are.  My recommendations are:

1. That Congressmen on Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation 
Committee and the House Science Committee be required by Congressional 
measure to place a substantial portion 

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Gun control: Schools ban even the word

Sarah Ruttan

The Ottawa Citizen



The Upper Canada District School Board has removed the word gun from all
spelling tests in its schools as a result of a complaint by parents of a
Grade 1 student.

Every Monday, Chloe Sousa, 7, comes home from Lombardy Public School
with a list of 10 words to learn, and each Friday her class is tested on
these words. By last week, the class had worked its way through the
alphabet to the letter G.

Amanda and Mark Sousa, who consider themselves to be pacifists and who
are raising their two young children with this governing belief, were
shocked when Amanda's spelling list last week included the word gun.

"I realize people hunt in this area, but I still don't think that
warrants the teaching of this word to my daughter or any other child,"
said Mrs. Sousa.

The Sousas relocated to tiny Lombardy, about an hour west of Ottawa near
Smiths Falls, from Kingston, where Mr. Sousa still works, to be closer
to family.

Mrs. Sousa wrote a letter to her daughter's teacher describing her views
on the word gun, her unease with any child learning to spell the word, a
few alternatives, and the wish to speak to the teacher about its
inclusion on the list.

"The word gun is synonymous with death. I'm racking my brain trying to
figure out why a seven-year-old would need to learn this word," said
Mrs. Sousa, who admits she was hesitant to bring her views forward for
fear of backlash from the school toward her daughter, and because some
may view her problem with the word gun as another political correctness
issue gone too far.

"For a split second I considered whether or not I should raise this
issue, but I knew I had to stand up for what I believe in. This was not
right," she said.

"I don't think this is an issue of political correctness. It's an issue
of protecting your child from violence. Guns are violent. End of story,"
said Mrs. Sousa.

The Sousas did not hear from the teacher. Then Chloe was sent home later
in the week, again with her list, which now came complete with pictures
beside each word.

"It wasn't a water gun or a toy gun, it was a pistol," said Mr. Sousa.

"I was horrified that not only were we ignored, but now my daughter is
carrying around a picture of a gun," he said.

Mrs. Sousa then decided it was time to call the school to speak to the
principal.

Not long after she placed the telephone call yesterday, the teacher
returned her call and apologized for the word being part of the test, as
did Terry Simzer, a public relations specialist for the school board in
which the Lombardy Public school belongs.

Mr. Simzer explained that the word gun had been in the curriculum for a
number of years, but as of yesterday, gun has been removed from the
spelling test because of the Sousas' complaint.

"I can't say how many years it's been used, but a number of years, yes,"
said Mr. Simzer, and he defended the word as being a good phonetic word
and short vowel word that is easy for young readers to learn.

"We do appreciate the sensitivity around the word, especially in these
times, and have taken the word from the list because of this parent's
complaint," he said.

"But children do hear this word every day on the news, particularly
about blank registration -- I don't want to say the word so I don't
offend anybody," added Mr. Simzer.

"We are quite happy that the whole matter has been resolved and the word
will no longer be included in our curriculum."

Although the Sousas remain disappointed the word was ever included in a
Grade 1 spelling test, the family is happy with the outcome.

"Even after all of the obstacles I'm happy with the conclusion," said
Mrs. Sousa.

"I accomplished what I set out to do and that was to have this word
removed from my daughter's spelling list."

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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

[Steve Mynott]

On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 15:22 Europe/London, Harmon Seaver wrote:


On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:32:24PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
 (much snipped)



It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks
are better or worse than others.


   That's hardly a good analogy.


Why not?   Alcohol is a drug like any other and its users attribute 
particular effects to particular forms of alcohol based on their own 
subjective experience with little or no objective agreement.

A friend was once sick on gin and still believes gin makes you sick 
whereas other forms of alcohol won't, yet many people drink gin without 
ill effects.  There are probably people who believe the same thing 
about vodka or whiskey.

In double blind tests, where neither the doctor nor the subject knows
which drug is which, people can't distinguish major psychedelic drugs
anyway.  The only clear distinction is the duration of drug effect
which does vary.

This is usually denied by users of these drugs despite numerous 
studies
supporting this since the late 1960s.

I can't imagine how they could ever do any sort of serious test, 
let alone a
"double blind test" -- the length of experience would be a dead 
giveaway.

It's one of the few defining characteristics of psychedelic drugs that 
the perception of time is generally  impaired by the intoxication, 
although some people like Kesey have screwed up the doctor's results by 
cheating and using their heartbeart to judge time :-)

Besides which anyone with any real experience would easily recognize 
the
essential flavor, if you will, of the particular psychedelic, and the 
quite
different and distictive voice of the Other. Or lack, thereof, for 
instance in
LSD. They are simply far too different -- on LSD, people are up, eyes 
open,
grooving on sights and sounds, talking to people, but on strong doses 
of
psilocybin and ayahuasca you'll most likely be snuggled under a warm 
quilt with
your eyes shut in a dark room. And preferably alone. Totally different
experiences -- the voice of the Other with psilocybin and ayahuasca 
are very,
very different from each other as well.

Another defining characteristic is the extreme variability of effects.  
Any one of the psychedelic drugs (at least of the main family such as 
LSD, psilocybin and mescaline) tends to have very different effects on 
different occasions.  How can you say LSD on one day is different to 
psilocybin on another when LSD on one day is even different to LSD on 
another day?

People generalise from their own experience but this is just subjective 
and they never agree on what different effects these drugs are supposed 
to have, although there often seems to be an irrational preference for 
"natural" drugs as if all natural substances are safe which they 
aren't.  Also there is a self fulfilling aspect to this since if people 
expect drug X to have effect Y it does due to the "set and setting" 
aspect.

But when they are objectively asked to identify the drug after taking 
it in lab trials they are shown to fail.  For example, LSD can't be 
distinguished from mescaline or psilocybin despite most drug users 
believing the drugs are very different.

Hollister, Leo E. and Sjoberg, Bernard M. 1964

"Clinical syndromes and biochemical alterations following mescaline, 
lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin, and a combination of the three 
psychomimetic drugs."

Comprehensive Psychiatry 5: 170-178

There are also interesting studies from the 1960s (sorry no references 
handy) suggesting the rate of psychosis amongst LSD users (using a 
sample set of about 1000) is no different from the general non-LSD 
using population.

--
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12-Feb-03 

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Re: The Wimps of War

[Tim May]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:39  AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:


And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the 
Europeans,
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Consumers. You have people there. The people want to eat, drink water, 
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use it. You build and then own the infrastructure, they pay you and 
they
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beginning. They will need money, they will work shit overtime jobs, and
they are closer than Malaysia is.

It's not the function of U.S. taxpayers (or any other taxpayers) to 
build another country's "infrastructure."

"Nation-building" is the worst meme of the 20th century.

Even for oil it's not. That's the choice Exxon and BP and Shell make, 
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RE: The Wimps of War

[Thomas Shaddack]

> And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans,
> care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum
> investments required to prevent the population from rising up against
> their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself with making
> investments in Iraq not directly related to creating and maintaining oil
> extraction and transport facilities?

Consumers. You have people there. The people want to eat, drink water, use
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

[Tyler Durden]

By the time that people were mixing speed with it, actual dosages were
much less (adding amphetamines to 250mic LSD is fairly pointless) and 
>today most, from what I hear, are around 75-100 mic.

In the early 80s I remembering getting some of the famous Goofy blotter, 
rated around 125 ugm. Microdots were around 35ugm.


   Hardly. Well, wandering around anywhere is not a good idea -- set and 
setting
are extremely important.

Well, wandering around in Soho NYC back when all the avante-garde galleries 
were there was quite a trip...some of these galleries were desgined already 
to be "immersive", so that plus LSD really allowed one to leave one's normal 
psychological space and step into an alien one. This isn't exactly an 
obvious step on the path towards ego-destruction, but it does open one's 
mind up to ideas and modes of being that one's normal nature would have 
never truly encountered.



   Yup - increase their dose. Best thing that could happen to the world 
would be
the development of a benign airforce that sprayed a fog of lsd/dmso on 
areas
like Palestine. Real LSD, that is. Or better yet, psilocybin.  8-)


Well, I'm not so sure. Surely you must be aware of the stories of Villages 
in Spain and wherever receiving a bad batch of ergot-infected bread, and 
then going collectively wacky, with suicides and whatnot. Some people really 
aren't in a place where they can handle losing control and seeing through 
all of their most cherished beliefs like wet tissue paper. Palestinians 
locked in a daily struggle with life and death might not take too well to 
being "raptured" all of a sudden. (BTW, ever read "The Transmigration of 
Timothy Archer" by PK Dick?)

Obviously it wasn't LSD.


I'm finding out this is apparently true with many drugs. Most heroin 
"overdoses" (as I have been informed by someone who ran a detox ward) are 
actually reactions to crap mixed in with the Herion (or once in a great 
while a dealer giving a hated customer an unexpectedly pure dose). The 
toxicity of Herion isn't very high, particularly for someone who's been 
building up a tolerance for a few years. (Crack's a different 
storyreally bad for the heart.)

So the moral of this story is that illegalization of most drugs is what 
kills people!

Perhaps we have underestimated the wisdom of the CIA! (Or are they the ones 
who initially put crap in the drugs they smuggle?)

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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

[Harmon Seaver]

On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:32:24PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
 (much snipped)

> 
> It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks 
> are better or worse than others.
> 
   That's hardly a good analogy. 

> The key thing about these drugs is the effects are intensively 
> subjective and highly unpredictable.  The dosage level is more likely 
> to be related to adverse effects than the particular psychedelic drug 
> used.
> 
> In double blind tests, where neither the doctor nor the subject knows 
> which drug is which, people can't distinguish major psychedelic drugs 
> anyway.  The only clear distinction is the duration of drug effect 
> which does vary.
> 
> This is usually denied by users of these drugs despite numerous studies 
> supporting this since the late 1960s.
> 
I can't imagine how they could ever do any sort of serious test, let alone a
"double blind test" -- the length of experience would be a dead giveaway.
Besides which anyone with any real experience would easily recognize the
essential flavor, if you will, of the particular psychedelic, and the quite
different and distictive voice of the Other. Or lack, thereof, for instance in
LSD. They are simply far too different -- on LSD, people are up, eyes open,
grooving on sights and sounds, talking to people, but on strong doses of
psilocybin and ayahuasca you'll most likely be snuggled under a warm quilt with
your eyes shut in a dark room. And preferably alone. Totally different
experiences -- the voice of the Other with psilocybin and ayahuasca are very,
very different from each other as well.
One might have some difficulty discerning a strong hit of Salvia vs. DMT,
but you certainly wouldn't confuse them with anything else, just because of
intensity and brevity. But even with those two, most experienced travelers would
say the entities one encounters in that other dimension are quite different,
indeed, that those dimensions themeselves are not the same.

(snip)

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RE: The Wimps of War

[Tyler Durden]

"why should the U.S. concern itself with making
investments in Iraq not directly related to creating and maintaining oil
extraction and transport facilities?"

This is a continuation of the mythology that extrapolates post-WWII US 
presence in Germany and Japan ("you know, those Americans really help the 
countries they beat in war") to the present day. Actually, it occurs to me 
that the only people who still believe this may be Americans.







From: "Lucky Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: The Wimps of War
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:21:18 -0800

Steve wrote quoting:
PAUL KRUGMAN
> And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a
> lack of faith
> in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp out in
> the aftermath
> of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq  is
> a large factor
> in the growing rift between Europe and the United States.

And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans,
care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum
investments required to prevent the population from rising up against
their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself with making
investments in Iraq not directly related to creating and maintaining oil
extraction and transport facilities?

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Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

[Mike Rosing]

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, david wrote:

> The main body of the constitution does not apply to the
> individuals, it is the law the politicians and bureaucrats of the
> federal government are supposed to obey (and instead completely
> ignore).  The fourteenth amendment prohibits the state governments
> from violately individual rights.  What is needed is the death
> penalty or life imprisonment for politicians and bureaucrats who
> violate their oaths to uphold the constitution.
>
> The proper recipient of a pledge of allegiance is individual
> liberty.  As Ben Franklin said, "Where liberty dwells, there is my
> country."

I'm not arguing with this, but I think "pledging" is just symbolic
anyway.  We need to act free so that we are free.  It drives the control
freaks nuts, and that's more fun anyway :-)

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike

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For your attention

[Robert]

I NEED ASSISTANCE

 Dear Friend, In recent times over the radio in AMERICA or even in ASIA and even on CNN you must have heard about the current war in Ivory coast. My late father General Robert Guei once ruled my country as head of state, he was recently killed with my mother and his aide de camp by the rebels incursion in my country which has resulted in several deaths, loss of property and mass looting, rape , arson and all kinds of unimaginable things usually associated with this type of situation.

This may come to you as a surprise, well I have decided to contact you for help due to the deplorable condition I find myself presently, the way you handle what I am about to tell you will determine to a large extent what will become of me and my entire family and also it will be greatly rewarding to you as well. While my dad was alive and during his time as head of state I was his close confidant and a strong member of his kitchen cabinet, most people in my country did not know the role I played because my late father wanted it that way.

Before I proceed to tell you about what I need you to do, I would like you to visit the following web pages to confirm my story, http://allafrica.com/cotedivoire/bydate/?n=5, http://www.spacedaily.com/news/020928220906.vv3pmvu5.html, there are some many avenues you can check to verify these information.

My father told me while he was head of state that he prefers to keep his money in real estate overseas as he does not think he will last long, he came via a coup and always feels he will leave by a coup, he could feel always the insecurity around him. Before he was removed as head of state and uptil his death a few months ago, we have always had a lot of cash hidden in our family house, known to myself my late mum and dad. I do not have a precise figure of the amount he kept but I know it runs into millions of dollars, sometimes he gets visitors from france and around the world who come  to see him, and he usually gives unspecified amount of money for investing abroad, the money he kept are in various currencies, american dollars  and pounds sterling.

After his death and in that state of confusion I was able to move almost all the money in the house to a safe location, after which I telephoned a friend of his who was like a father to me, he handled most of this investments,  he immediately adviced that I should call the commercial attache to the ivorian embassy in ghana who was in ivory coast on vacation to arrange to move all the money via diplomatic means to ghana, the next day this was arranged and the boxes containing the money was moved to ghana, ofcourse I travelled with them to ghana, it was at ghana that we were able to count the money and found out that it was precisely $20.3 million dollars and 17 million pounds sterling, you know this is a lot of money. Through the ghanaian diplomatic service we were able to transfer this money to London, awaiting to be sent to a finance and securities company in Amsterdam. This has not been done yet.

I have been adviced that it will not be in my best interest to have the money in the finance company in my name, that it will be unsafe as I am being watched by the government of my country. I have personally ordered the movement of the money to a safe and secret location in london, pending when I find a trustworthy individual that will assist me in concluding this transaction, as soon as I hear from you and you are willing to assist me, we will both work out the best possible way to use this money to open an account in any bank of your choice in your name after which you will transfer to my bank account 75% 0f the total amount while you will keep 25%, I believe this sharing is very reasonable and fair.

Please contact me via email, if you are not interested in assisting me please keep what I have told you absolutely confidential, do not expose me, it could mean death for me, as for the transaction it is 100% risk free and safe.

Best Regards,
Robert Guei jr
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

[Jim Choate]

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Sarad AV wrote:

> A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a
> valid piece of evidence in a court of law?

It's that oath thing, it's pretty much always required the person making
the tape to swear it hasn't been tampered with and that they are the party
who created it. Otherwise it would generaly fall into hearsay. Than of
course it also depends on the particular states view of 1-party or 2-party
permission issues.


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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

[Jim Choate]

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, jet wrote:

> If you've read it recently,  I'll take your word for it.

That's a very(!!!) dangerous approach.

Odds are the person hasn't read it at all. Check the archive for a
reference to a pre-print in arXiv (ie xyz.lanl.gov) about pre-prints and
how 80% of them are bogus in reference to claims of having read
references/cites.


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Inferno: The notion of separation of church and state (fwd)

[Jim Choate]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:32:05 -0600
Subject: The notion of separation of church and state

Just in case there was any confusion about where this administration stands.


 Original Message 
Subject: ugh.
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:47:31 -0600
From: Sheilagh

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,361521,00.html


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