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because he is evil. Actually, more than control signals there are messages 
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need to bother themselves with the morality of the war on US foreign policy, 
etc...

-TD


From: Morlock Elloi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Senators from Utah being Southern
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
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2003-06-24 Thread jburnes
Except its interesting that in the late/ongoing gulf conflict the 
Catholic church actually
said that US aggression on Iraq was evil.  Interesting.  In any case, 
my mother who would
consider herself a devout Catholic ignored this control channel and 
found herself obeying
the other more insidious control channel -- mass media.  They have 
weapons of
mass destruction.  Tomorrow they could be gassing all of NYC.  blah 
blah blah.
They have spurned the UN long enough!!!

Nothing about oil companies shutting down Saddam because he was 
funneling Russian Caspian
sea oil through his pipeline.  The rules say Saddam couldn't pump his 
own own (except
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 09:35  AM, Tyler Durden wrote:

Morlock Elloi wrote...

It all boils down to getting masses to farm out the inquisitivness 
and then
servicing it.
Well, I think this is the case 99% of the time, but I don't think it 
has to be. When most of the earlier scriptures were written, they 
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Christian country and hates Saddam because he is evil. Actually, more 
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their self-interest is at stake, and they don't need to bother 
themselves with the morality of the war on US foreign policy, etc...

-TD


From: Morlock Elloi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Senators from Utah being Southern
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Religions are artificial shortcuts to knowledge and excellent 
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