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Re: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec

[Bill Stewart]

At 12:57 PM 9/9/2004, Hal Finney wrote:
>   http://www.postel.org/anonsec
To clarify, this is not really "anonymous" in the usual sense.  Rather it
is a proposal to an extension to IPsec to allow for unauthenticated
connections.  Presently IPsec relies on either pre-shared secrets or a
trusted third party CA to authenticate the connection.  The new proposal
would let connections go forward using a straight Diffie-Hellman type
exchange without authentication.  It also proposes less authentication
of IP message packets, covering smaller subsets, as an option.
I read the draft, and I don't see how it offers any improvement
over draft-ietf-ipsec-internet-key-00.txt or Gilmore's proposal touse "open 
secret" as a not-very-secret pre-shared secret
that anybody who wants to can accept.
It does introduce some lower-horsepower alternatives for
authenticating less than the entire packet, and suggests
using AH which I thought was getting rather deprecated these days,
but another way to reduce horsepower needs is to use AES instead of 3DES.

Also, the author's document discusses protecting BGP to prevent
some of the recent denial-of-service attacks,
and asks for confirmation about the assertion in a message
on the IPSEC mailing list suggesting
   "E.g., it is not feasible for BGP routers to be configured with the
   appropriate certificate authorities of hundreds of thousands of peers".
Routers typically use BGP to peer with a small number of partners,
though some big ISP gateway routers might peer with a few hundred.
(A typical enterprise router would have 2-3 peers if it does BGP.)
If a router wants to learn full internet routes from its peers,
it might learn 1-200,000, but that's not the number of direct connections
that it has - it's information it learns using those connections.
And the peers don't have to be configured "rapidly without external 
assistance" -
you typically set up the peering link when you're setting up the
connection between an ISP and a customer or a pair of ISPs,
and if you want to use a CA mechanism to certify X.509 certs,
you can set up that information at the same time.



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Call for 'hackers' to try to access voting machines draws stern warning

[R. A. Hettinga]

The Virgin Islands Daily News - A Pulitzer Prize Winning Newspaper
  
Call for 'hackers' to try to access voting machines draws stern warning
By AESHA DUVAL
Thursday, September 9th 2004




ST. CROIX - Law enforcement officials and the V.I. Board of Elections
issued warnings Wednesday saying anyone who tampers with voting machines
will face criminal prosecution.

 The warning came after Elections officials received a faxed document last
week stating that a $10,000 cash award would be offered to anyone who can
successfully "hack" into electronic voting machines to prove whether vote
tallies can be changed.

 The flier lists on top in large bold letters, "Cash Payout" and further
reads, "The first person to change vote tallies undetectably can claim
$10,000!"

 Hope Gibson, a St. Croix resident and former senatorial candidate, said
she sent the document to Elections offices and the media and insists she is
not asking that anyone break the law.

 Gibson states in the document that she is calling the Joint Board of
Elections to allow challengers the opportunity to access the voting
machines and prove that the machines can or cannot be programmed to give
false results.

 She said similar challenges are being offered on the mainland and that the
accuracy of the same machines used in the territory - the 1242 ELECTronic
voting machine which is manufactured by the Danaher Corp. - have come into
question.

 Gibson said the $10,000 is being offered by Michael Shamos, a Carnegie
Mellon University computer scientist.

 "I didn't do anything illegal," Gibson said Wednesday.

 U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Azekah Jennings disagrees, saying the
document can be misinterpreted as an open invitation for anyone to
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a cash award can be claimed.

 "It is unlawful for anyone to engage in any kind of voter fraud," Jennings
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 Elections board member Alicia Wells and other members were shocked and
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 "We want to make it clear that any tampering with voting machines will not
be tolerated," Wells said.

 Gibson said although Supervisor of Elections John Abramson Jr. has said
fail-safes are built into the machines to ensure accuracy, she believes the
machines are unreliable and vulnerable. She said a paper ballot system is
the only means for a voter to physically verify their vote before they cast
it.

 "The point that is being made here is the only people who really know if
your vote counts are the voting machine vendor, the local programmer and
the potential hacker - not the voter," Gibson said.

 Abramson said Wednesday he forwarded the document to the FBI, U.S.
Attorney's Office and V.I. Attorney General Iver Stridiron.

 "We are leaving this in the hands of law enforcement," Abramson said.
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Re: Flying with Libertarian Hawks

[Justin]

On 2004-09-10T12:02:12-0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
> 
> Damn right. 'Conservative' means agreeing with the most vocal proponents of 
> the current right wing apparatchiks. It seems to have little or no 
> relationship to fiscally conservative ideas.

Aren't the most vocal proponents of right-wing policies the Republican
apparatchiks themselves?  I think "the most vocal proponents of" is
redundant.

> "Left wing" now refers to anyone who disagrees with the
> 'Conservatives', even if said left wing policies are practically
> identical to those of the 'right'.

The notion of right-wing and left-wing as an axis/dimension is garbage.
I think anyone who votes Republican is right-wing and anyone who votes
Democrat is left-wing.  There is no remotely accurate one-dimensional
political scale, and left-wing or right-wing voting doesn't imply
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Re: Perplexing proof

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:40:08 -0400
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On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 08:23:06AM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:

> "[The suggested proof] is rather incomprehensible," professor Marcus du
> Sautoy of Oxford University told The Guardian, adding that if correct it
> could lead to the creation of a "prime spectrometer" that would bring "the
> whole of e-commerce to its knees overnight".

http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/~dusautoy/flash/1hard/listpub.htm

So at least now we have a named source, even one who works on generalized
zeta functions. The out of the blue "prime spectrometer" claim is still
rather puzzling... Does anyone know why Du Sautoy is making this claim
(if it is indeed reported correctly).

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P2P company sues RIAA over patent

[R. A. Hettinga]

CNET News


 P2P company sues RIAA over patent

 By  John Borland
 Staff Writer, CNET News.com
 http://news.com.com/2100-1027-5357332.html

 Story last modified September 8, 2004, 5:45 PM PDT


Altnet, a company that sells music and other digital goods through
file-swapping services, sued the Recording Industry Association of America
on Wednesday for alleged patent infringement.

The company, a subsidiary of Brilliant Digital Entertainment, contends that
the RIAA has been infringing on one of its patents in the course of
copyright enforcement efforts inside peer-to-peer networks. Overpeer, a
copyright company owned by Loudeye, and MediaDefender, also are named in
the lawsuit.

 "We've exhausted every means of trying to work with these defendants and
those they represent to patiently encourage and positively develop the P2P
distribution channel," said Altnet Chief Executive Officer Kevin Bermeister
in a statement. "We cannot stand by and allow them to erode our business
opportunity by the wholesale infringement of our rights."

 The patent infringement suit comes as one of the sideshows in an ongoing
legal battle over peer-to-peer networks that has led to piracy charges
against technology companies and antitrust claims against record companies,
and that now appears to be headed ultimately to Congress for resolution.

 Altnet and Brilliant Digital Entertainment are joint venture partners with
Sharman Networks, the Australian company that owns the Kazaa software. The
company has been trying for several years to persuade record labels and
music studios to allow Altnet to sell authorized versions of their products
through the Kazaa file-swapping network.

 The big entertainment companies have unanimously said no, however. They've
lost recent court battles that aimed to put companies like Sharman out of
business, but are now seeking legislation that would revive their claims
against file-swapping ventures.

 Altnet has also been seeking other funding sources and ways to strike back
at the record labels' efforts to undermine peer-to-peer networks.

 In the summer of 2003, it announced that it had purchased patent rights to
the process of identifying files on a peer-to-peer network using a "hash,"
or digital fingerprint based on the contents of the file.

 Initially, Bermeister indicated the company would approach other
file-swapping companies to sign them up for licenses. That proved
controversial, but Altnet did send cease-and-desist letters last November
to nine companies engaged in businesses related to peer-to-peer networks.

 Some of these, such as data collection company Big Champagne, said they
weren't using any technology that would infringe on the Altnet patent. An
attorney for Altnet said the disputes with most of the nine had been
resolved.

 Altnet's lawsuit says that antipiracy companies Overpeer and MediaDefender
are still on the hook, however. Overpeer is a "spoofing" company that posts
millions of false or corrupted files on networks such as Kazaa, trying to
make real files harder to find. Media Defender uses "interdiction"
techniques, which essentially clog networks with requests that block real
download efforts.

 Both of these services use unauthorized versions of Kazaa and the
underlying FastTrack peer-to-peer technology, and so are using Altnet's
patent without permission, the company contends.

 In its complaint, Altnet said that RIAA executives had been notified
several times in 2003 about the patent, but that the trade group has
continued to support Overpeer and to conduct its own enforcement efforts on
the Kazaa network without permission.

 Overpeer said it did not believe it had infringed on Altnet's patents.

 "We vigorously deny these claims and find them to be completely baseless
and without merit," said Marc Morgenstern, who heads Loudeye's Overpeer
division, in a statement.

 Representatives from the RIAA could not immediately be reached for comment.

 Altnet and Brilliant Digital Entertainment have been skating on thin
financial ice in recent years. In its last quarterly report to federal
regulators, Brilliant said it had just $509,000 in cash on hand.

 An attorney representing Altnet said that financial considerations would
not impede the company's attempt to enforce the patent, however.
 The lawsuit was filed in a Los Angeles federal court.



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experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

Man jailed for sending email threats

[R. A. Hettinga]

   Print this article |   Close this window

Man jailed for sending email threats
 Stuttgart, Germany
 September 9, 2004 - 10:10AM

 A German doctor's assistant has been jailed for 31Ž2 years for trying to
extort money from banks, hotels and airports with email threats sent from
internet cafes in Thailand.

 The court in this southern city ruled that the 44-year-old had sent dozens
of emails threatening to kill people or blow up buildings if he was not
paid because he needed money for a flight home from Asia.

 The man also said he was facing a heavy fine because he had overstayed his
visa for Thailand after falling in love with a Thai woman, but that his
girlfriend had left him when he ran out of money.

 Under the aliases Jonathan Drake and Vincent Baxter, he sent out 39 emails
to German and Austrian institutions demanding between ¤5000 and ¤10,000
from the recipients and threatening to kill someone close to them if they
failed to pay.

 He told airport authorities in the messages that he would detonate hidden
bombs if he did not receive between ¤50,000 and ¤100,000.

 At Vienna's Schwechat airport, a security team was forced to hold a crisis
meeting over the threats while security officials at Tegel airport in
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 Most of the institutions targeted, however, ignored the threats on the
advice of the police.

 Authorities were able to trace the emails back to Thailand and arrested
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 The defendant, who had already run into trouble with the law in 1992 for
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addresses for "the crazy idea of blackmail" on the internet.


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Re: Flying with Libertarian Hawks

[Tyler Durden]

Damn right. 'Conservative' means agreeing with the most vocal proponents of 
the current right wing apparatchiks. It seems to have little or no 
relationship to fiscally conservative ideas. "Left wing" now refers to 
anyone who disagrees with the 'Conservatives', even if said left wing 
policies are practically identical to those of the 'right'.

-TD


From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flying with Libertarian Hawks
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:53:06 -0700
At 07:53 AM 9/10/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
>
>Is it possible for one to be libertarian about policies at home and
>neo-conservative about policies abroad? After all, isn't the principle
of
>non-coercion incompatible with the interventionist policies of the
current
>Administration? Simply put: is there such an animal as a libertarian
hawk
>and if he exists, why do we so seldom hear from him?
On the contrary, the Ayn Rand institute has been taken over by
vocal Zionists.  They would never bomb Dimona but if a non-israeli
semite even thinks about uranium, its missiles away.
Or if the South Koreans do a bit of clandestine enrichment, no big deal,
they're "our" *friends*.
-
"Stop shedding our blood to save your own and the solution to this
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 but complex equation is in your hands. You know matters will escalate
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Re: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec

[Zooko O'Whielcronx]

On 2004, Sep 09, , at 16:57, Hal Finney wrote:
To clarify, this is not really "anonymous" in the usual sense.  Rather 
it
is a proposal to an extension to IPsec to allow for unauthenticated
connections.  Presently IPsec relies on either pre-shared secrets or a
trusted third party CA to authenticate the connection.  The new 
proposal
would let connections go forward using a straight Diffie-Hellman type
exchange without authentication.
...
I don't think "anonymous" is the right word for this, and I hope the
IETF comes up with a better one as they go forward.
I believe that in the context of e-mail [1, 2, 3, 4] and FreeSWAN this 
is called "opportunistic encryption".

Regards,
Zooko
[1] http://www.templetons.com/brad/crypt.html
[2] http://bitconjurer.org/envelope.html
[3] http://pps.sourceforge.net/
[4] http://www.advogato.org/article/391.html

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Re: Flying with Libertarian Hawks

[Major Variola (ret)]

At 07:53 AM 9/10/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
>
>Is it possible for one to be libertarian about policies at home and
>neo-conservative about policies abroad? After all, isn't the principle
of
>non-coercion incompatible with the interventionist policies of the
current
>Administration? Simply put: is there such an animal as a libertarian
hawk
>and if he exists, why do we so seldom hear from him?

On the contrary, the Ayn Rand institute has been taken over by
vocal Zionists.  They would never bomb Dimona but if a non-israeli
semite even thinks about uranium, its missiles away.

Or if the South Koreans do a bit of clandestine enrichment, no big deal,

they're "our" *friends*.


-
"Stop shedding our blood to save your own and the solution to this
simple
 but complex equation is in your hands. You know matters will escalate
the more you
delay and then do not blame us but blame yourselves. Rational people do
not risk their
security, money and sons to appease the White House liar." UBL

The only language the American people understand is
dead Americans. -EC

Re: BrinCity 2.0: Mayor outlines elaborate camera network for city

[John Kelsey]

>From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sep 9, 2004 9:50 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: BrinCity 2.0: Mayor outlines elaborate camera network for city

...
> Some people are concerned about "Big Brother" invading their privacy but
>Mayor Daley says the cameras will be located in public areas.

Fortunately, all this is happening in a town noted for its trustworthy and honest 
government, and under a mayor with no tendency to use any excuse he can find to grab 
power, tear up airports he doesn't like in the middle of the night, etc.

...
>R. A. Hettinga 

--John Kelsey

Re: Perplexing proof

[Major Variola (ret)]

At 08:23 AM 9/10/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
> Perplexing proof
>
>E-commerce is only one mathematical breakthrough away from disaster
>Robert Valpuesta, IT Week 09 Sep 2004
>
>The fact that even experts often do not fully understand how IT systems

>work was underlined by recent reports that the Riemann hypothesis,
>established in 1859, may finally have been proved.

This doesn't follow.

>It seems the hypothesis would explain the apparently random pattern of
>prime numbers that form the basis for much internet cryptography, used
for
>e-commerce and online banking to guard accounts and credit card
details.

Can someone explain how finding regularity in the distribution of primes

would affect any modexp() system?   Suppose that you have a function
F(i) which gives you the i-th prime.  Since the PK systems (eg RSA, DH)
use *randomness* to pick primes, how does being able to generate
the i-th prime help?

>Louis de Branges, a renowned mathematician at Purdue University in the
US,
>has claimed he can prove the hypothesis. But the maths is so
complicated
>that no one has yet been able to say whether his solution is right.
>
>"[The suggested proof] is rather incomprehensible," professor Marcus du

>Sautoy of Oxford University told The Guardian, adding that if correct
it
>could lead to the creation of a "prime spectrometer" that would bring
"the
>whole of e-commerce to its knees overnight".

Methinks the "expert" du Sautoy is an expert in number theory, not
crypto...

>Unfortunately, most managers have no way of telling whether the proof
is
>right or its implications are indeed as stated.

Most managers don't understand crypto.


This could be an
>embarrassment if they are asked to assess risks for corporate
governance
>reports, since they clearly now have a duty to own up and admit that
>business could be threatened by a theoretical prime spectrometer.
>
>Alternatively they might accept that security is a matter of faith,
declare
>that nothing can truly be "known", and add that the way of Zen shows
that
>security is probably an illusion anyway.

I think this latter indicates the cluelessness of the author.

Perplexing proof

[R. A. Hettinga]

 Perplexing proof

E-commerce is only one mathematical breakthrough away from disaster
Robert Valpuesta, IT Week 09 Sep 2004

The fact that even experts often do not fully understand how IT systems
work was underlined by recent reports that the Riemann hypothesis,
established in 1859, may finally have been proved.

It seems the hypothesis would explain the apparently random pattern of
prime numbers that form the basis for much internet cryptography, used for
e-commerce and online banking to guard accounts and credit card details.

Louis de Branges, a renowned mathematician at Purdue University in the US,
has claimed he can prove the hypothesis. But the maths is so complicated
that no one has yet been able to say whether his solution is right.

"[The suggested proof] is rather incomprehensible," professor Marcus du
Sautoy of Oxford University told The Guardian, adding that if correct it
could lead to the creation of a "prime spectrometer" that would bring "the
whole of e-commerce to its knees overnight".

Unfortunately, most managers have no way of telling whether the proof is
right or its implications are indeed as stated. This could be an
embarrassment if they are asked to assess risks for corporate governance
reports, since they clearly now have a duty to own up and admit that
business could be threatened by a theoretical prime spectrometer.

Alternatively they might accept that security is a matter of faith, declare
that nothing can truly be "known", and add that the way of Zen shows that
security is probably an illusion anyway.

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The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 
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[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Release Date:
 2004-09-09
License:
 Update

Downloads (this version)
 85
Downloads (all versions)
 671

Price:
 $39.95

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Product Description:
 Intego ChatBarrier works in conjunction with Apple's iChat instant
messaging software to provide two-way, real-time encryption of text chats.
Intego ChatBarrier is easy to use, transparent, and inviolable, using
military-grade 512-bit encryption that no one can break. When Intego
ChatBarrier is installed, a simple click of a button turns on its
functions, and any text you send during a chat using iChat is encrypted.
Only a user who also has Intego ChatBarrier installed, and to whom you send
a message, will be able to decrypt it. Neither the sender nor the receiver
has to do anything other than activate Intego ChatBarrier for encryption
and decryption to occur.

What's new in this version:
 Bug fixes.


Product Requirements:
 Mac OS X 10.2.3 or later

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Finally   tombovo  ??
 Version: 10.3.1, 7/11/2004 06:18PM PST
 This is a long needed product. Installation was easy, and using it seems a
little too easy. I would like to see more information on the encryption
type and how it works, its priced a little high for a one-trick-pony, and
its pretty simplistic in how you use this, so i have to reduce its rating
one star. I do like its integration with NetUpdate so i can update
NetBarrier along with this product.  More Info

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Vendor without a clue   LEoOfBORG  ??
 Version: 1.0, 7/6/2004 06:18PM PST
 I installed this, and while I didn't have anyone to try this out with,
here are some observations.

 1 Why does this hack need -2- Preference Panes? Prefpane #1 (The on-off
switch) is simply that. This should not be in PrefPanes, but in iChat
itself.

 2 The 'Net Update' Pref Pane does more of a service for Intego than the
user. There are -2- checkboxes for 'Opt-in Spam' from Intego. And -why- do
they need an email address -and- password for the updater?

 All in all, this comes across as some marketing flunkys idea of what's
good for Windows is good for MacOSX. It's obvious that Intego doesn't know
how to integrate with MacOSX. So, to recap;

 1/ Put Settings and functionality for the app you are enhancing IN THE APP
ITSELF -- NOT IN THE OS. If you need a primer on how to do this, look at
the FREE sofware PithHelmet with its Safari integration.

 2/ If you expect to receive $40 for your hack, don't add insult to injury
by bloating our systems with extra flotsam like 'Opt-in Spam' in the Net
Update. That is just plain insulting. Shareware authors have version
checking down to one menu item. Why do you need such a convoluted updater,
Intego?

 To top off what others have been saying about how Apple may just have this
functionality in the next version of iChat anyway (it's SSL, and Windows
folks already have it), Bitwise and Fire have encryption capabilities for
FREE. Also, if you really NEED crypto, PGP also has an Encryption service
built into the service menu. You can encrypt text to your chat partner's
public key and -know- that its meant only for them (and is not just some
SSL stream). Concieveable you could mix 'chatty' cleartext with PGP's
2048-bit encryption, which blows Intego's away.

 In short, if you're willing to do some homework, there are alternatives
out there that smoke this hack. Don't fall for this Windows vendor's price
taking, learn about Crypto. At the very least, pick up PGP Freeware. Or
personal desktop, which costs the same, is applicable to a number of
applications, and DOES NOT EXPIRE after one year (I read Intego's license).

 That being said, at least it comes with a de-installer.  More Info

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ChatBarrier V3   Helpinghand  ??
 Version: 1.0, 6/27/2004 06:01PM PST
 I have used it and it works as they say as far as I can tell. Price could
be better but over all its not a bad product, I also use their netbarrier
and it works great.  Its a nice product for saying things you don't want
carnivor to see but its not a must for everyone.  More Info

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Flying with Libertarian Hawks

[R. A. Hettinga]

Tech Central Station Flying with Libertarian Hawks

By Max Borders
 Published 
 09/09/2004 


And covenants, without the sword, are but words and of no strength to
secure a man at all.

-- Thomas Hobbes

 

Is it possible for one to be libertarian about policies at home and
neo-conservative about policies abroad? After all, isn't the principle of
non-coercion incompatible with the interventionist policies of the current
Administration? Simply put: is there such an animal as a libertarian hawk
and if he exists, why do we so seldom hear from him?

 

There is a reticence among many libertarians to speak out about their
bellicosity. You might say they're doves at the dinner table, perhaps
worried they'll be shunned by their peers. But I think it's time we give
some substance to what, at the moment, may be little more than an
intuition, and speak up about our support for foreign policies that require
armed conflicts -- even preemptive ones.

 

Most libertarians fall in line behind the superficial notion that domestic
and foreign policies should be mirror images of each other, each reflecting
classical liberal principles where self-defense is applied universally like
some scriptural edict. Alas, were the threats of the twenty first century
so simple to counter, the complexities of world so easily distilled.

  

The libertarian hawk takes her cues from Hobbes, not Locke, as the spaces
mostly untouched by globalization are, in her view, like a state-of-nature.
She sees threats that organize themselves in the shadows beyond
civilization; operating, no less, in an age of deadly weapons
proliferation. She fears the world's great, but nimble powers coalescing
into a slothful and ineffectual global body -- where the toughest decisions
of life and limb must be made in committee. She understands that freedom
does not drop like manna from heaven, but is earned drop-for-drop and
coin-for-coin by the sacrifices of blood and treasure.

  

And this is the crux of the libertarian hawk's position: "rights" as such,
are not some Cartesian substance that animates the body in the manner of a
soul. Rights are a human construct, just like money. The more we believe in
them, the better they work. But there are situations in which the currency
becomes, uh, devalued. Better said: there are limits to those on whom we
can ascribe rights.

  

We get rights by virtue of some sort of social contract, not from our
Creator. In this way, social contract theory splits the difference in many
respects between libertarianism and conservatism. The social contract is an
idea that people would rationally choose certain constraints on their
behavior, constraints which culminate in certain reciprocal rules under
which to live. I won't harm you if you won't harm me. We benefit through
cooperation. And so forth. Those who would choose the rules enjoy the full
benefits they confer.

 

Criteria of mutual benefit are embedded in the social contract condition --
which is devoid of: "natural rights" notions that have failed in the
libertarian tradition on metaphysical grounds; the totalitarian-leaning
"social" aspects which can creep into utilitarian theories (requiring
individuals to be sacrificial lambs to the "many"); and of the stodgy
moralizing that tends to weigh on domestic conservatism.

  

The overall beauty of social contract theory is that it offers us a
justification for political liberalism and pluralism that rests neither on
the foundational axioms associated with traditional moral theories, nor on
the nihilism and disorderly assertions of the so-called Postmoderns. In
short, social contract theory is a constructivist enterprise. And if you
stand outside the covenants of Man, you are presumed "enemy."

 

In light of all this, I find it sad that so many otherwise bright
libertarians seem so unreflective about war. Some of my favorite
freedom-loving publications have steered their editorial styles into the
hashish den of protest music and anti-Bush priggishness. Some of my
favorite think tanks issue press releases almost daily, calling for the
immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq, calling for the US to extend
Constitutional privileges to enemy combatants, and claiming that it will be
impossible to bring democracy and the Rule of Law to the Middle East.

 

Which brings me to what could be the best criticism against the current
conflict in Iraq. Let's call it the Hayekian Argument. It can be summarized
in the following way: a complex order, like a country, is very difficult to
plan or impose upon a people. It emerges, pace Hayek, "spontaneously."
Under certain institutional conditions backed by years of tradition and
certain entrenched cultural mores, civil societies can form. But these
conditions simply are not in place in Iraq, so we may have gotten ourselves
into aŠ (OK, here goes) Š a quagmire.

  

Much of the Hayekian Argument depends on considerations in complexity
theory. That is