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The Register


 Biting the hand that feeds IT

The Register » Internet and Law » Digital Rights/Digital Wrongs »

 Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/14/symantec_targets_freegate/

Symantec labels China censor-busting software as Trojan
By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk)
Published Tuesday 14th September 2004 18:10 GMT

Symantec has labelled a program that enables Chinese surfers to view
blocked websites as a Trojan Horse. Upshot? Users of Norton Anti-Virus
cannot access Freegate, a popular program which circumvents government
blocks, the FT reports.

Freegate has 200,000 users, Dynamic Internet Technology (DIT
(http://www.dit-inc.us)), its developer, estimates. It lets users view
sites banned by the Chinese government by taking advantage of a range of
proxy servers assigned to changeable internet addresses. But a recent
update to Symantec's AV definition files means the latest version of
Freegate is treated as malware and removed from systems protected by
Norton. Short of disabling Norton AV, users would have little say in this.

A Symantec staffer in China told the FT that Norton Anti-Virus identified
Freegate as a Trojan horse, but declined to provide a rationale for such a
definition. The absence of an explanation from Symantec raises concerns. We
hope that the mislabelling of Freegate is a simple mistake, soon rectified,
rather than yet another example of an IT firm helping Beijing implement
restrictions.

History provides as least one example
(http://www.vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=316&page=4) of the AV industry extending
favours to China that it would normally withhold. AV firms normally keep
virus samples under lock and key. But suppliers agreed to hand over virus
samples to the Chinese government a few years ago as a condition of trading
in the country. These samples could be easily found on the net but the
incident illustrates a precedent of China being treated as a special
exception.
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The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
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Re: Geopolitical Darwin Awards

[Thomas Shaddack]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> How about Iran stating that they're messing with UF6, when Israel[1] is 
> a known pre-emptive bomber of Facilities to the East?  That's pretty 
> much tickling the dragon.

Maybe they are playing a different game. They couldn't use the eventually 
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> [1] A wholly 0wn3d subsidiary of the US.  Or perhaps vice-versa.

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Re: Nanometer Bamboo Carbon TEMPEST Protection

[R. A. Hettinga]

At 9:40 AM -0700 9/14/04, Bill Stewart wrote:
>Hey, you cultural imperialist!
>Western domination of the Tinfoil Hat market has got to stop!
>Traditional Chinese materials can be equally effective and
>aesthetically superior.

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The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
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[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
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[i2p] weekly status notes [sep 14] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)

[Eugen Leitl]

- Forwarded message from jrandom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: jrandom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:21:39 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [i2p] weekly status notes [sep 14]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi y'all, its that time of the week again

* Index:

1) 0.4.0.1
2) Threat model updates
3) Website updates
4) Roadmap
5) Client apps
6) ???

* 1) 0.4.0.1

Since last Wednesday's 0.4.0.1 release, things have been going
pretty well on the net - more than 2/3rd of the network has
upgraded, and we'e been maintaining between 60 and 80 routers on
the network.  IRC connection times vary, but lately 4-12 hour
connections have been normal.  There have been some reports of
funkiness starting up on OS/X though, but I believe some
progress is being made on that front too.

* 2) Threat model updates

As mentioned in reply [1] to Toni's post [2], there has been a
pretty substantial rewrite of the threat model [3].  The main
difference is that rather than the old way of addressing the
threats in an ad-hoc manner, I tried to follow some of the
taxonomies offered within the literature [4].  The biggest
problem for me was finding ways to fit the actual techniques
people can use into the patterns offered - often a single
attack fit within several different categories.  As such, I'm
not really too pleased with how the information in that page
is conveyed, but its better than it was before.

[1] http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2004-September/000442.html
[2] http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2004-September/000441.html
[3] http://www.i2p.net/how_threatmodel
[4] http://freehaven.net/anonbib/topic.html

* 3) Website updates

Thanks to Curiosity's help, we've begun on some updates to the
website - the most visible of which you can see on the homepage
itself.  This should help people out who stumble upon I2P and
want to know right off the bat wtf this I2P thing is, rather
than having to hunt and peck through the various pages.  In any
case, progress, ever onwards :)

* 4) Roadmap

Speaking of progress, I've finally thrown together a revamped
roadmap [5] based upon what I feel we need to implement and upon
what must be accomplished to provide for the user's needs.  The
major changes to the old roadmap are:

 * Drop AMOC altogether, replaced with UDP (however, we'll support
   TCP for those who can't use UDP *cough*mihi*cough*)
 * Kept all of the restricted route operation to the 2.0 release,
   rather than bring in partial restricted routes earlier.  I
   believe we'll be able to meet the needs of many users without
   restricted routes, though of course with them many more users
   will be able to join us.  Walk before run, as they say.
 * Pulled the streaming lib in to the 0.4.3 release, as we don't
   want to go 1.0 with the ~4KBps per stream limit.  The bounty on
   this is still of course valid, but if no one claims it before
   0.4.2 is done, I'll start working on it.
 * TCP revamp moved to 0.4.1 to address some of our uglier issues
   (high CPU usage when connecting to people, the whole mess with
   "target changed identities", adding autodetection of IP address)

The other items scheduled for various 0.4.* releases have already
been implemented.  However, there is one other thing dropped from
the roadmap...

[5] http://www.i2p.net/roadmap

* 5) Client apps

We need client applications.  Applications that are engaging,
secure, scalable, and anonymous.  I2P by itself doesn't do much,
it merely lets two endpoints talk to each other anonymously.
While I2PTunnel does offer one hell of a swiss army knife, tools
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So far I've been touting MyI2P to meet that need - a distributed
blogging system offering a LiveJournal-esque interface.  I
recently [6] discussed some of the functionality within MyI2P on
the list.  However, I've pulled it out of the roadmap as its just
too much work for me to do and still give the base I2P network the
attention it needs (we're already packed extremely tight [7]).

There are a few other apps that have much promise.  Stasher [8]
would provide a significant infrastructure for distributed data
storage, but I'm not sure how that's progressing.  Even with
Stasher, however, there would need to be an engaging user
interface (though some FCP apps may be able to work with it).

IRC is also a potent system, though has its limitations due to
the server-based architecture.  oOo has done some work to see
about implementing transparent DCC though, so perhaps the IRC
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transfers or serverless chat.

General eepsite functionality is also important, and what we
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[Bill Stewart]

- BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE -
At 05:33 AM 9/13/2004, Ben Laurie wrote:
Bill Stewart wrote:
I find it more annoying that there are spammers putting PGP headers
in their messages, knowing that most people who use PGP assume PGP-signed 
mail
is from somebody genuine and whitelist it.
Surely you should check that:
a) The signature works
b) Is someone in your list of good keys
before whitelisting?
My terminology was a bit sloppy, but until recently,
you could use the presence of PGP format indicators
as a whitelist entry, or at least a SpamAssassin good weight -
spammers didn't use the stuff, and the worst would be
quasi-spam like Yet Another Invitation
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Re: Nanometer Bamboo Carbon TEMPEST Protection

[Bill Stewart]

At 10:10 AM 9/14/04 -0700, John Young wrote:
>From: "dumbshit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: effectively prevent computer radiation
>
>especially computer radiation, which does much
>harm to human body.
At 08:42 AM 9/14/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
How do you say scam for the clueless in Mandarin?
Hey, you cultural imperialist!
Western domination of the Tinfoil Hat market has got to stop!
Traditional Chinese materials can be equally effective and
aesthetically superior.

Bill Stewart  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[Major Variola (ret)]

At 08:59 PM 9/13/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
>If a nuke goes off a few dozen meters under a mountain, is there anyone

>there to see it?  What is the sound of one mountain moving?

You can get dust rising off the mountain ---find the video of the Paki
tests.  But not a big rising cloud.

An underground test is a few *hundred* meters below surface.
And sometimes you get a chimney of crumbled rock leading to
either a crater or a dome on the surface, depending on the
rock type; Nevada is pockmarked with them.But no big
cloud.

Re: Nanometer Bamboo Carbon TEMPEST Protection

[Major Variola (ret)]

t 10:10 AM 9/14/04 -0700, John Young wrote:
>From: "dumbshit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: effectively prevent computer radiation
>
>especially computer radiation, which does much
>harm to human body.

Yeah, it really taxes my feng-shei

>The main material of FANGFUWANG is active nanometer
>bamboo carton. Through Chinese and Japanese experts' many
>years research and repeatedly proof, the nanometer bamboo
>carbon has the characteristics of being close and porous, and
>having strongly absorbable capacity.

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Maybe I'll sell them as a stealth coating for chinese bombers!
And if taken internally they can remove toxins!

How do you say scam for the clueless in Mandarin?

Geopolitical Darwin Awards

[Major Variola (ret)]

At 09:27 AM 9/14/04 -0400, John Kelsey wrote:
>>From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Removing chunks with dynamite is trying rather hard for a Darwin
award.
>
>As far as I can tell from what's reported in the new, a great deal of
North Korea's daily operation fits that category.

How about Iran stating that they're messing with UF6, when Israel[1] is
a known
pre-emptive bomber of Facilities to the East?   That's pretty much
tickling
the dragon.

[1] A wholly 0wn3d subsidiary of the US.  Or perhaps vice-versa.

Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[James A. Donald]

--
On 13 Sep 2004 at 12:50, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> When I was a teen I would save the instant-cold packs after
> soccer games, and recrystalize the AN within.  It melts and
> gives off bubbles but I never collected enough N20 nor did it
> detonate.

You need a lot of heat to detonate AN, but I have never failed
to detonate it.  Perhaps your stuff was contaminated with water
or stabilizer, or perhaps you need a better flame.


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The government will supervise the operations of nearly 1400 bars to
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-- 
-
R. A. Hettinga 
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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From: "shenzhen xiongfeng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: effectively prevent computer radiation
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:18:21 +0800

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Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[Tyler Durden]

I still think we're seeing the early stages of a Jonestown-like scenario. If 
we see Kim Jong Il summoning the entire NK population to PyongYang, then we 
can be pretty sure they're going to nuke themselves!

-TD

From: John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:27:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

>From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2004 3:50 PM
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?
...
>AN is extremely deliquescent; perhaps the sulphate was for that?
>Removing chunks with dynamite is trying rather hard for a Darwin award.
As far as I can tell from what's reported in the new, a great deal of North 
Korea's daily operation fits that category.

--John
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Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[John Kelsey]

>From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2004 3:50 PM
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

...
>AN is extremely deliquescent; perhaps the sulphate was for that?
>Removing chunks with dynamite is trying rather hard for a Darwin award.

As far as I can tell from what's reported in the new, a great deal of North Korea's 
daily operation fits that category.  

--John

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