date:20040915

Re: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec

2004-09-15 Thread Ian Grigg

Bill Stewart wrote:
Also, the author's document discusses protecting BGP to prevent
some of the recent denial-of-service attacks,
and asks for confirmation about the assertion in a message
on the IPSEC mailing list suggesting
   "E.g., it is not feasible for BGP routers to be configured with the
   appropriate certificate authorities of hundreds of thousands of peers".
Routers typically use BGP to peer with a small number of partners,
though some big ISP gateway routers might peer with a few hundred.
(A typical enterprise router would have 2-3 peers if it does BGP.)
If a router wants to learn full internet routes from its peers,
it might learn 1-200,000, but that's not the number of direct connections
that it has - it's information it learns using those connections.
And the peers don't have to be configured "rapidly without external 
assistance" -
you typically set up the peering link when you're setting up the
connection between an ISP and a customer or a pair of ISPs,
and if you want to use a CA mechanism to certify X.509 certs,
you can set up that information at the same time.
On the backbone, between BGP peers, one would have thought
that there are relatively few attackers, as the staff are
highly trusted and the wires are hard to access - hence no
active attacks going on and only some passive eavesdropping
attacks.  Also, anyone setting up BGP routing knows the other
party, so there is a prior relationship.
The whole point of the CA model is that there is no prior
relationship and that the network is a wild wild west sort
of place - both of these assumptions seem to be reversed
in the backbone world, no?  So one would think that using
opportunistic cryptography would be ideal for the BGP world?
iang

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RE: Symantec labels China censor-busting software as Trojan

2004-09-15 Thread Tyler Durden

"We hope that the mislabelling of Freegate is a simple mistake, soon 
rectified,
rather than yet another example of an IT firm helping Beijing implement
restrictions."

I'd say this was naive, but they give an example after this that shows they 
know the score. Symantec wants in to China and their $$$, and Jong Nan Hai 
holds the key.

Hum. Seems the Chinese government is pretty effective at self-preservation. 
Does this contradict the widely-held Cypherpunk belief in the inevitability 
of deterioration of the state?

Perhaps from a Crypto-anarchy perspective, there's a bootstrap point: once 
there exceeds a certain level of state info-control, it's very hard to get 
rid of it. Below that level it seems the state can't hold on. (Perhaps W is 
a little smarter than we thought!)

-TD

From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Symantec labels China censor-busting software as Trojan
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:38:32 -0400

The Register
 Biting the hand that feeds IT
The Register ; Internet and Law ; Digital Rights/Digital Wrongs ;
 Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/14/symantec_targets_freegate/
Symantec labels China censor-busting software as Trojan
By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk)
Published Tuesday 14th September 2004 18:10 GMT
Symantec has labelled a program that enables Chinese surfers to view
blocked websites as a Trojan Horse. Upshot? Users of Norton Anti-Virus
cannot access Freegate, a popular program which circumvents government
blocks, the FT reports.
Freegate has 200,000 users, Dynamic Internet Technology (DIT
(http://www.dit-inc.us)), its developer, estimates. It lets users view
sites banned by the Chinese government by taking advantage of a range of
proxy servers assigned to changeable internet addresses. But a recent
update to Symantec's AV definition files means the latest version of
Freegate is treated as malware and removed from systems protected by
Norton. Short of disabling Norton AV, users would have little say in this.
A Symantec staffer in China told the FT that Norton Anti-Virus identified
Freegate as a Trojan horse, but declined to provide a rationale for such a
definition. The absence of an explanation from Symantec raises concerns. We
hope that the mislabelling of Freegate is a simple mistake, soon rectified,
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Award#0442154 - Surveillance, Analysis and Modeling of Chatroom Communities

2004-09-15 Thread R. A. Hettinga



  

NSF Award Abstract - #0442154
AWSFL008-DS3

Surveillance, Analysis and Modeling of Chatroom Communities

NSF Org
 DMS

 Latest Amendment Date
 September 7, 2004

 Award Number
 0442154

 Award Instrument
 Standard Grant

 Program Manager
 Hans G. Kaper
DMS DIVISION OF MATHEMATICAL SCIENCES
MPS DIRECT FOR MATHEMATICAL & PHYSICAL SCIEN

 Start Date
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 Expires
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 Expected Total Amount
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 Investigator
 Bulent Yener [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Principal Investigator current)
Mukkai S. Krishnamoorthy (Co-Principal Investigator current)

 Sponsor
 Rensselaer Polytech Inst
110 8th Street
Troy, NY 121803522 518/276-6000

 NSF Program
 7276 APPROACHES TO COMBAT TERRORISM

 Field Application
 099 Other Applications NEC

 Program Reference Code
 ,7276,9237,OTHR,

 Abstract
 The aim of this proposal is to develop new techniques for information
gathering, analysis and modeling of chatroom communications. First, the
investigator and his colleague consider graph-less models to capture the
structure of chatroom communications. In particular, the investigators
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