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Re: Airport insanity

[Sunder]

There is still of course the matter of the unexploded bombs in that 
building that were dug out, and that the ATF received a "Don't come in to 
work" page on their beepers, and the seize and classification of all 
surveilance video tapes from things like ATM's across the street.


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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:

> Mc Veigh did not target innocents, and if he did target a plane 
> full of innocents, perhaps in order to kill one guilty man on 
> board, there is no way in hell he himself would be on that 
> plane. 

Re: Airport insanity

[Thomas Shaddack]

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:

> > > If you really look like the shoe bomber, then you should have to 
> > > drive, or use public transport.

Ever tried to drive to Europe? Or to Hawaii?
Why airplanes don't count as a form of public transport?

> > So by that rationale, every Arab should have to drive?
> 
> Every young male Arab past puberty, with a few exceptions for 
> special cases.

This is a measure good for pissing off (which is often the first step to 
radicalizing) the quite secularized majority of American Arabs.

You also seem to forget there is another potential factor - not only the 
visible one (ethnicity), but also one that isn't obvious to visual 
evaluation - religion. There is a significant black minority that inclines 
to Islam, some of them potentially radical. Do you want to suggest banning 
blacks from flying too? If so, what reaction are you expecting to get?

Google Desktop privacy branded 'unacceptable'

[R.A. Hettinga]

The Register

Biting the hand that feeds IT


Google Desktop privacy branded 'unacceptable'
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco (andrew.orlowski at theregister.co.uk)
Published Friday 15th October 2004 22:47 GMT

Google's Desktop represents a privacy disaster just waiting to happen, a
rival has warned. David Burns, Copernic CEO, says users should know that
the giant ad broker intends to mix public and private queries in the
future, leveraging its key moneyspinning product: contextual advertising.

"If you lined people and said, 'Stick your hand up if you want Google to
know what pictures you have, and what MP3 files you have,' I don't think
many would." Burns had offered these capabilities to partners before, but
received some pushback.

"Major brands don't want to compromise their reputation. We've offered this
in the past to potential partners, and had a major PC hardware company and
major portals say 'No, we can't do this'", Burns told us.

With the subpoena-happy RIAA getting support from state law enforcement in
its war on copyright infringers, Google represents a single point of
compromise for millions of file traders.

Copernic offers a native Windows search application both as a free download
and as a branded offering to partners, and has toyed with merging the two
before. But it's realized personal archives are very different to Google's
snapshot of the web - and the queries are different too.

"I don't deny desktop and web on the same page is attractive," he added.
"But we're not going to do it."

Burns was former US chief of FAST, which created the All The Web search
site before selling it to Overture. Yahoo! now owns both.

Google Desktop Search allows users to opt out of sending the company back
detailed usage data, but it isn't possible to firewall it completely. Much
more ominously, reckons Burns, Google's product manager Marissa Mayer said
she expected the private queries to generate more hits for google.com. Most
people, she believed, would choose to combine personal and web searches
resulting in more revenue for Google's ad business.

"As a result, we will serve more Web results pages and more ads, and those
ads have more chances of getting clicked on. So there will be incremental
Web search revenue from this product," she told the Washington Post.

In January, Eric Schmidt said the company's goal was to create a "Google
that knows you". With the addition of personal information, it's just taken
a giant step towards that goal.
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RE: Airport insanity

[Adam]

First of all, there were 19 children killed in the OKC bombing. Were
these children guilty of some crime worthy of being killed by a truck
bomb?

Second of all, you make it sound like McVeigh was just your average-Joe
American. How could a non-fundamentalist knowingly kill 168 people? 

Third, does not being a suicide bomber make your cause more noble?

Curious why you seem to think McVeigh was justified in his actions. 

-Adam

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 16:01:47 -0700, "James A. Donald"
> Tim McVeigh did not target innocents, nor was he a suicide 
> bomber.
> 
> Nor, incidentally, was he a fundamentalist or a racist. 
> 
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Re: Airport insanity

[James A. Donald]

--
Damian Gerow
> > > I've had more than one comment about my ID photos that 
> > > amount to basically: "You look like you've just left a 
> > > terrorist training camp."

James A. Donald:
> > Nonetheless you can probably start fiddling with your shoes 
> > on a plane without the passengers seated near you jumping 
> > you.

Damian Gerow
> Perhaps, I don't know.  But we're not talking about the other 
> passengers, we're talking about screening based on looks, no?

When the other passengers jumped the shoe bomber, they were 
screening based on looks.

> So by that rationale, every Arab should have to drive?

Every young male Arab past puberty, with a few exceptions for 
special cases.

> Oh, and every white American (recall numerous references to 
> Mr. McVeigh)

Mc Veigh did not target innocents, and if he did target a plane 
full of innocents, perhaps in order to kill one guilty man on 
board, there is no way in hell he himself would be on that 
plane. 

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RE: Airport insanity

[Steve Furlong]

On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 00:43, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> At 12:14 PM 10/15/04 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
> >--
> >> >My profile is radically different from all those who killed
> >> >nearly 3,000 of my countrymen on September 11, 2001. My
> >> >"holy book" of choice is the Bible. My race is Caucasian. I
> >> >am a loyal, taxpaying, patriotic, evil-hating,
> >> >English-as-first-language, natural-born American.
> 
> As was Timmy McV, Zeus rest his soul.

The unidentified John Doe #2 looked awfully Arabic, though.

RE: Airport insanity

[James A. Donald]

--
James A. Donald:
> > Just don't let anyone who looks like the shoe bomber fly. 
> > Problem solved.

On 15 Oct 2004 at 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Huh? The one flaw in this logic is that this only works if
> you can send this particular definition of suspicious "looks"
> backwards in time. The shoe-bomber is a particularly
> interesting case, as I believe the dude was ethnically
> British.

The passengers who jumped him, however, were looking forwards
in time.

Suicide bombers seldom look, or act, like normal people.  You
might think a suicide bomber is the ultimate guided missile,
but the Palestinian experience is that they are more like
unguided missiles, or dumb bombs.  The handler accompanies the
suicide as close to the target as he dares, then activates the
suicide's control, hoping they do not explode on the spot.

> He might have looked odd from the photo you saw circulated in
> the press, but I'd bet a lot of money no one would have
> picked him as looking like a terrorist.

But the people sitting beside him did pick him as looking like
a terrorist.

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RE: Airport insanity

[James A. Donald]

--

> > > > My profile is radically different from all those who 
> > > > killed nearly 3,000 of my countrymen on September 11, 
> > > > 2001. My "holy book" of choice is the Bible. My race is 
> > > > Caucasian. I am a loyal, taxpaying, patriotic, 
> > > > evil-hating, English-as-first-language, natural-born 
> > > > American.

On 15 Oct 2004 at 21:43, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> As was Timmy McV, Zeus rest his soul.

Tim McVeigh did not target innocents, nor was he a suicide 
bomber.

Nor, incidentally, was he a fundamentalist or a racist. 

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Re: Airport insanity

[Steve Thompson]

 --- John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Most of the Boston Red Sox team look as if they have
> just
> come from a terrorist training camp for blind,
> handless barbers, 
> decked-out in ill-fitting sports gear, staring
> wild-eyed at 
> RPGs being fired at their heads and nuts, swinging
> clubs futilely 
> at the inerrant missiles, their ass-wipe paws
> swollen into giant 
> shit-covered patties, muttering homicidal jihads
> against devil-bred 
> yankees.

Our Maple Leafs' hockey team might look similarly if
it weren't for the lockout.  As it is, all of our
players are well-fed and well-rested (if a little
restless, ha ha ha).  I imagine they have no trouble
whatsoever convincing airport security of their
benignity when they flit about on their vactions.

We might as well face it.  Whether one is designated
as  resembling a terrorist or not, according to
security screeners, is really a matter of random
happenstance in many cases.  Did you purchase a 12ga
Remington Defender  sometime in the last twenty years?
 No?  Well then please step onboard.  Yes?  Oh, well
you're going to have to wait while we send your thong
to the lab for analysis, Mr. Alleged, just to check
for accelerant or explosives residue.

Net result?  Just one more obstacle on the highway of
life.  Ho hum.


Regards,

Steve



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Re: Airport insanity

[Steve Thompson]

 --- Damian Gerow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thus spake James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> [15/10/04 15:19]:
>>[laws making stupidity mandatory for gov't
officials]
> 
> I've had more than one comment about my ID photos
that amount to basically: "You look like you've just
left a terrorist training camp."  For whatever reason,
pictures of me always come out looking like some
crazed religious  fanatic.  But that doesn't mean that
I'm going to bomb anything.  And I sure hope that I'm
not going to be detained or denied entry because of
how I *look*, alone.

Way back when phrenology was all the rage they did not
have terrorists.  Since it is evidently vital to the
security of the state for its officials to have the
capability of committing arbitrary civil rights
violations, I can see a need for the resurrection of
phrenology, suitably updated, as a screening tool. 
The shape of your head; the cadence of your gait; the
way your eyes shift according to carefully structured
stimulae, and of course your spending patterns -- all
these things will help the cause of profiling.

Remember: petty inconveniences that make travel on
average less pleasant and more onerous are not at all
intended to facilitate tightened centralised control
of civilian life.  That it may actually do so is an
unintended side-effect.

As for me, I have resigned myself to the current
lamentable state of world affairs.  Until the world's
policeman finishes flushing the terrorists out into
the open for the purpose of apprehension, we will all
have to make sacrifices for the greater good.


Regards,

Steve


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Re: Airport insanity

[Damian Gerow]

Thus spake James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [16/10/04 14:33]:
: > I've had more than one comment about my ID photos that amount 
: > to basically: "You look like you've just left a terrorist 
: > training camp."
: 
: Nonetheless you can probably start fiddling with your shoes on 
: a plane without the passengers seated near you jumping you.

Perhaps, I don't know.  But we're not talking about the other passengers,
we're talking about screening based on looks, no?

: > For whatever reason, pictures of me always come out looking 
: > like some crazed religious fanatic.  But that doesn't mean 
: > that I'm going to bomb anything.  And I sure hope that I'm 
: > not going to be detained or denied entry because of how I 
: > *look*, alone.
: 
: If you really look like the shoe bomber, then you should have 
: to drive, or use public transport.

So by that rationale, every Arab should have to drive or use public
transport?  Oh, and every white American (recall numerous references to Mr.
McVeigh), too.  Shit, by that rationale, the only people allowed left to fly
will be cats and dogs.

Just not pit bulls.

Re: Airport insanity

[James A. Donald]

--
James A. Donald:
> > Has anyone who does not look a terrorist done a suicide 
> > mission outside Israel or Russia? Recall the shoe bomber. 
> > You just had to look at him. You would think the airport 
> > screeners would need to be half brain dead to let him on 
> > the plane.  Come to think of it, they are half brain dead, 
> > but laws that require them to pretend to be stupider than 
> > they actually are do not help.

Damian Gerow
> I've had more than one comment about my ID photos that amount 
> to basically: "You look like you've just left a terrorist 
> training camp."

Nonetheless you can probably start fiddling with your shoes on 
a plane without the passengers seated near you jumping you.

> For whatever reason, pictures of me always come out looking 
> like some crazed religious fanatic.  But that doesn't mean 
> that I'm going to bomb anything.  And I sure hope that I'm 
> not going to be detained or denied entry because of how I 
> *look*, alone.

If you really look like the shoe bomber, then you should have 
to drive, or use public transport.

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