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[ISN] BlackBerry prickles Department of Defence spooks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:34:56 -0600 (CST) From: InfoSec News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ISN] BlackBerry prickles Department of Defence spooks Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: InfoSec News isn.attrition.org List-Archive: http://www.attrition.org/pipermail/isn List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://www.attrition.org/mailman/listinfo/isn, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/11/15/1100384480556.html By Rob O'Neill November 16, 2004 Next Department of Defence communications spooks are restricting the use of wireless BlackBerry devices in government over concerns about the security of confidential and restricted information. The Defence Signals Directorate (DSD), the nation's high-tech electronic eavesdropper, says the popular devices must not be used to transmit confidential or secret information or connect to systems that process it. Agencies may use BlackBerry devices with systems that handle unclassified, x-in-confidence (excluding cabinet-in-confidence) and restricted information. Telstra, one of several providers of BlackBerry services, insists the systems are secure. They are used by a lot of customers that require high levels of security in the financial services industry, and even the CIA and the Pentagon, a Telstra spokesman says. Paul Osmond, Asia-Pacific regional director of BlackBerry developer Research In Motion, is thrilled the Government has decided the Department of Defence can use the device, because 18 months ago they were prohibited. Their restrictions are fairly common when you look at a first go-around, Osmond says. They are similar to those the US defence forces put out when they first used it. The DSD will review the guidelines in February when it is expected RIM and ISPs will seek to have their say. The hand-held BlackBerry device, which allows access to corporate email, including attachments, from almost any location, has become the new must-have corporate accessory in the US and is receiving strong support here. But the swarm of new mobile computing devices poses security challenges to government and private organisations. They are keen to have the functionality but worry about privacy and access. Other consumer devices have also generated alarm. A British security firm's survey revealed Apple's iPod, which has large portable storage capacity and can be plugged into most PCs, is considered a threat. Sometimes such concerns can seem overblown, as in 1999 when the Furby, a computerised toy, was banned from US National Security Agency premises because it could be used as a recorder. _ Open Source Vulnerability Database (OSVDB) Everything is Vulnerable - http://www.osvdb.org/ - --- end forwarded text - -- - - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 1308 iQA/AwUBQZpgrsPxH8jf3ohaEQIbrACgoFRvXVUJA1KwCT3bo1W/Kh43CKsAoKgs MVhEl7/6XTLGsGe1fcywBsMm =O3HP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
'Virtual Debit Card' Aims To Combat Online Fraud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB110056759053675009,00.html The Wall Street Journal November 16, 2004 MONEY 'Virtual Debit Card' Aims To Combat Online Fraud By JENNIFER SARANOW Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL November 16, 2004; Page D2 Consumers typically have been wary of using bank cards online. One bank's solution is to get rid of the cards. In an effort to ease customers' concerns about fraud and identity theft when shopping online, PNC Bank has launched a new checking account with a virtual debit card. In addition to a regular debit card that can be used at automated teller machines and in stores, the Digital Checking account comes with an eSpend card. The card is basically a piece of paper with an account number, expiration date and verification code for making purchases online, over the phone and by mail order. Customers can set a daily limit for their eSpend card (say $1,000) and once that amount is spent, additional purchases won't be approved. PNC Bank, a unit of PNC Financial Services Group Inc., Pittsburgh, hopes the eSpend card will attract people who want to make purchases online with their debit card but are uncomfortable doing so for fear of making their bank account vulnerable to fraud. If an unauthorized person obtains a customer's eSpend number, only the specified daily limit could be taken out of a customer's bank account. If this occurs, PNC says customers aren't liable for the charges. Purchases made with the eSpend card show up separately on bank statements. The account, which is aimed at online-banking customers, also comes with identity-theft reimbursement insurance, a debit card rewards program and no fee for using non-PNC ATMs. The account has a monthly $11 service fee unless customers opt for direct deposit of paychecks or government checks such as Social Security, and pay at least three bills online. The eSpend card comes as debit cards are quickly overtaking cash and checks as preferred methods of payment. According to a report from the American Bankers Association and Boston-based Dove Consulting, 31% of in-store purchases were made with a debit card last year, up from 21% in 1999. Consumers typically have been wary of using debit cards online because, unlike credit cards, they are directly tied to bank accounts. But online use of debit cards is starting to grow. In the first quarter of this year, Visa debit cards were used for 46% of online purchases, up from 43% a year earlier, according to Visa International. Analysts are skeptical about how excited consumers will be about PNC's new card. I think it's an interesting idea but if you look at consumer usage, consumers are using their debit cards online today in increasing numbers, so it's unclear how much of a demand there would be for a card with that unique application, says Tony Hayes, a Dove analyst. Other banks have long offered similar credit-card products as a way to encourage purchases on the Internet and reduce the amount of fraud they are liable for. In June of 2002, for example, Citigroup Inc.'s Citibank launched free, downloadable software that allows credit-card customers to obtain a new disposable account number each time they make a purchase online. A downside: Such virtual account numbers can't be used when a credit card must be shown at pickup. - -- - - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 1308 iQA/AwUBQZpi4MPxH8jf3ohaEQKJ3QCfZ+wnHeKvUtcB5OPrDJpowuwZVlcAniqe Y95BEeRcqR2WVUz/2nG4zZvh =wU3/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
The Beginning of the Crypto Era
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.eweek.com/print_article2/0,2533,a=139274,00.asp EWeek The Beginning of the Crypto Era November 15, 2004 By Larry Seltzer In a move that was totally expected, if a little early, Yahoo has announced that it will put its money where its mouth is and start checking Yahoo Mail with its DomainKeys system. The company had told me that it would do so by the end of the year, but I suppose it had had this last week, during the FTC e-mail authentication summit, as an internal deadline. Earthlink also announced that it will test DomainKeys on its system. DomainKeys is important. It is the main implementation of the second of the two most credible approaches to SMTP authentication, specifically the use of cryptographic signatures to authenticate messages against the domains from which they were sent. The other approach-to check against the IP addresses of the servers in those domains-also moved forward recently with the second version of the Sender ID spec. Don't assume that the DomainKeys implementation is the final form. There is an IETF group called ietf-mailsig working in preliminary stages to standardize the crypto approach to SMTP authentication and they might want to make some changes to the approach used by Yahoo. And I expect Yahoo to be open to such suggestions. In fact, Yahoo's openness to reasonable suggestions and unobjectionable licenses is a big reason to be optimistic about widespread adoption of it. Indeed, while Yahoo has intellectual property claims on its developments in DomainKeys, the company isn't being a jerk about it, like some other coMpanieS in this business that shall remain naMeleSs. There are some interesting questions about DomainKeys and Yahoo's handling of it. The first has to do with performance. My own first impression of cryptography as a solution was that the added performance burden on MTAs (message transfer agents, better known as mail servers) would be great and that many companies would have to upgrade their hardware to run a DomainKeys-enabled server with decent performance. In a recent eSeminar in which I participated, Richi Jennings of Ferris Research echoed this view. But while it's still too early to tell, there's reason to believe the performance issue is not as serious as first impressions would indicate. I've spoken to Sendmail, the leading MTA company in the world, about it. Nobody, except Yahoo, has more hands-on experience actually testing and coding DomainKeys than Sendmail. Sendmail thinks the added performance burden, entirely CPU-based, is on the order of 15 percent to 20 percent. This isn't nothing, but MTAs aren't typically CPU-constrained-they are network- and perhaps disk-constrained-so there could easily be spare CPU capacity in the typical MTA (unless it's running Exchange Server or Notes, in which case it's CPU-starved). Next Page: Why no SPF implementation? The other question I have about Yahoo is why it has refused to implement SPF. Sender Policy Framework is the uncontroversial part of Sender ID, the part that checks the message envelope. Many people still argue that SPF is all we really need. But no serious people believe this, least of all SPF's author Meng Weng Wong, who is a principal author and sponsor of the Sender ID spec and also a fan of DomainKeys. All SPF really stops is bounce messages, also known as Joe Jobs. It's an important part of the solution, but it's far from an adequate one. But it is an easy one, and there's no good technical reason why Yahoo should resist it. All the other major mail providers, to my knowledge, are implementing SPF as part of their experimentation. The answer for Yahoo is probably something as stupid as not wanting people to get the misimpression that they are hedging on DomainKeys. I asked the company about this several weeks ago, and it weaseled out of a direct answer. Most dissatisfying. The Yahoo announcement focuses on phishing, probably because it's topical. Spam has become a major annoyance, but phishing is scary. And SPF does nothing to address phishing. This is why Microsoft developed Caller ID, the header portion of Sender ID. I should also take a moment to wag my finger at those who continue to express concern at how spammers are adopting SPF and other authentication standards in order to get around them. I don't know if they're walking into a trap or if they're just experimenting, but it won't do them any good. The more spammers authenticate, the easier they will make themselves to block. For insights on security coverage around the Web, check out eWEEK.com Security Center Editor Larry Seltzer's Weblog. Remember, authentication systems are not complete anti-spam systems. They just identify who is sending the mail, not why they are sending it. This whole approach requires the coordinated use of reputation systems that will use the authenticated address to tell you whether a sender is trustworthy. In such a scenario, an
Re: Gettin' Our Scots-Irish Up
-- On 16 Nov 2004 at 10:17, Bill Stewart wrote: The music that I associate with National Review is distinctly not country-western - it's Bach's Second Brandenburg Concerto, used as the theme music for Bill Buckley's program Firing Line. They may be putting on country-boy airs, but they're still elitists... Perhaps, but it is characteristic of american conservatives to claim to be rednecks or hillbillies - and characteristic of american leftists to condemn their opponents as trailer park trash, rednecks, hillbillies, and sister fuckers. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG KvBpkRgMY1EaRdittHLTuKxpXHzlpZNo6UE55J9v 4c1dfn1oWWGKl5Zmmwoij539ww8jvi8JqwMuasWVW
[i2p] weekly status notes [nov 16] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html/resources_storyPrintableView CBS 11 | cbs11tv.com DALLAS SERVER COMPANY CARRIES ZARQAWI DEATH VIDEOS, TERRORIST WEBSITES * THE PLANET.COM SAYS IT IS UNWITTING VICTIM, CAN'T POLICE ITSELF Nov 14, 2004 11:00 pm US/Central By Todd Bensman and Robert Riggs The Investigators CBS-11 News CARBONDALE, ILL. -- The grainy Internet movie file flashes a title: Al Qaeda Movement in the Land of the Two Rivers. An Operation Against the British Troops Near Baghdad. The streaming online video clip shows a car as it motors slowly up a single-lane road, away from the cameraman who shakily zooms in as it gathers speed toward a British checkpoint. A caption appears, reading Here goes the brave lion to tear up his prey and to win paradise. The cameraman is speaking in Arabic, his voice rising with God is Great, God is Great as the car at center screen arrives at the British checkpoint and a soldier standing in the road. Suddenly, a massive fireball of orange and black lashes upward and outward, instantly slaughtering him and wounding two other British soldiers of the Black Watch Regiment, along with the suicide bomber, according to later press reports. The Jihadists responsible are then filmed at the scene kicking a dismembered arm left behind by a recovery tank squad. This is a movie clip put up just last week by notorious terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's organization within a few days of the actual Nov. 7 attack. Sometime over the weekend, as CBS-11 aired promotions for this story, it disappeared with others of its ilk on an Internet server owned by an up-and-coming Dallas web site hosting company called The Planet. In downtown Dallas ((www.theplanet.com). Glorifying the slaughter of American soldiers and their allies in Iraq. Helping to enhance the global street credentials of Zarqawi among any like-minded person with access to a computer. Aaron Weisburd, a self-appointed cyber warrior who since 2002 has run a crusade called Internet Haganah (www.Internet-Haganah.us) to shut down these so-called e-jihadists, is the one who tracked the movies to Dallas. And in recent weeks, Weisburd has discovered that Zarqawi's home movies on The Planet servers have plenty of other bad company in Big D. The Planet's Dallas servers have in recent months hosted web sites run by Islamic extremist organizations the U.S. government has long since banned as Designated Terrorist Organizations - three different Palestinian Islamic Jihad promotional sites and Hamas' monthly news magazine. Two Hamas websites and two Al Quaeda websites remain on The Planet's servers, according to Internet Haganah. For the past two and a half years, Weisburd and his Internet Haganah (www.haganah.us) volunteer translators and analysts across the globe have been using a tracking program he devised to expose the presence of extremist outlawed Jihadists and hound them off the Web by asking the server companies to drop their business. A former computer programmer, Weisburd started chasing after e-jihadists on a lark and soon realized that literally thousands of extremist Islamic web sites were out there in cyberspace, beckoning to millions of Muslims around the world to join their bloody causes. Every moment that these sites are up they encourage jihadists to commit acts of terrorism, Weisburd told CBS-11 News in his first interview with an American media organization. They provide instructions to people in how to do things like build bombs. They build identity and a sense of community. They incite violence. They encourage people to go out and kill people. I'm of the opinion that one ought not to just sit there and tolerate terrorists advertising their organization, he said. They're not just some other organization. They're not a humanitarian organization. They're not a corporation. They're terrorists. They're in the business of killing people. They shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that kind of legitimacy. - From his home office in the southern Illinois college town of Carbondale, Weisburd has found sites in Dallas literally singing the praises of suicide bombing, sporting photo memorials of martyrs and promoting their bloody, violent causes. Working internationally, he claims his efforts have knocked down more than 550 extremist web sites. Sometimes, he said, service provider companies resist but most do not want to be associated with terrorists. My guess is that in the grand scheme of things one bad customer isn't worth nearly as much as all the good customers you want to keep who don't want to be associated with this stuff either, Weisburd said. I mean, do you really want to be known as associated with terrorists? Most of the time, the giant service providers do not know what kinds of web sites they are hosting until someone complains. Such companies typically sell wholesalers their web space and those wholesalers in turn contract much of
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Re: 1st amendment
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:46:21PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 10:56 PM 11/16/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html/resources_storyPrintableView DALLAS SERVER COMPANY CARRIES ZARQAWI DEATH VIDEOS, TERRORIST WEBSITES Any State employee who attempts to oppress free speech, including video, deserves killing. Read the Bill of Rights. The next day, Zarqawi's spokesman announced the proof and provided a link to the video of the exploding car bomb, on The Planet.com. Asked how he would like The Plant to respond, ... ^^^ And any news editor who so grossly fails to copy edit also deserves killing. Telling little slip, tho'. -- gabriel rosenkoetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp56CumofW8K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Iraq II, Come to think of it (was...China's wealthy)
-- On 14 Nov 2004 at 12:33, Tyler Durden wrote: When it comes to China, even some of the Han-dominated areas are incredibly difficult to get to, and when you start talking about Southern parts of Yunnan, most parts of Tibet, and places like Qinhai and Xinjiang, the idea of a lightening-fast and efficient despotism starts to sound dubious. I have never suggested that any despotism was lightning fast or efficient, and totalitarianism, such as that of Mao and Qin, is even slower and less efficient. It is not travel distance that makes for slow reactions, but the fact that everything has to be cleared with the top, the fact that low level people are forbidden to think. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 56D0bYHQzFhVoqs5hSQzS0qvgik5OwJHVAMVGSfz 4FvsMZXY2Yed7To20MoGIPJ3rszxf79ZaE6XvYlpG
Re: Iraq II, Come to think of it (was...China's wealthy)
-- James A. Donald: Qin had a cult of personality, in which every single person subject to his control had to participate. A subject of Qin, like a subject of Mao, was more aware of Qin, than he was of his mother and father. Tyler Durden: You are apparently simply unaware of the real size and terrain of China. There were villages in remote parts of China that were unaware of Mao's death into the early 1980s. Bullshit. Everyone knew that which the regime decided they must know. And if true, which I very much doubt, you are not only arguing that Qin's legalism was a different thing than communism/nazism, you are also arguing that Mao's communism was a different thing than Stalin's communism. It was a lot harder to get to Afghanistan from Moscow than to get to any place in China from Peking, yet every Afghan child knew in painfully excessive detail what Moscow commanded them to know, and the regime was partially successful in preventing them from knowing what it wished them to not know. When, during the great leap forward, Peking commanded unreasonable grain requisitions from the provinces, *all* provinces contributed, and *all* provinces suffered starvation. It is often said that Mao's famine was an unfortunate accident, while Stalin's famines were intentional, but any differences are merely a matter of greater self deception. Both did the same things for the same reasons, but Stalin justified his actions by anti peasant rhetoric - liquidation of the kulaks, whereas Mao justified his action by pro peasant rhetoric, but this is a mere difference in the emphasis in the rationalizations and propaganda, not any difference in means and ends. Both used ruthless terror to establish extraordinary control over a far flung empire that had formerly been ruled by relatively light hand, and then used that extraordinary control to extort extraordinary resources from the peasantry. The difference between Stalin's frequent references to the poor peasants (who were supposedly carrying out the liquidation of the kulaks in revolutionary zeal) and Mao's similar references is merely that Mao was more thorough in creating the simulation of a mass movement. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG xGYJrVMJ5Hx9Dgyly/Lt7Vk6TKJAugVqAcp3+7mq 4rvMXJ51mdk2UqHkU40M50T9s5aAMzX99JW0hQGT/
Re: Iraq II, Come to think of it (was...China's wealthy)
James Donald wrote... Bullshit. Everyone knew that which the regime decided they must know. And if true, which I very much doubt, you are not only arguing that Qin's legalism was a different thing than communism/nazism, This is where the Simplistic Grid comes in. The momentum of Chinese culture will oalways outlive any short-term despotism, and the Chinese on many levels know this. When it comes to China, even some of the Han-dominated areas are incredibly difficult to get to, and when you start talking about Southern parts of Yunnan, most parts of Tibet, and places like Qinhai and Xinjiang, the idea of a lightening-fast and efficient despotism starts to sound dubious. Indeed, these areas are only barely under Beijing control today. It's also a main reason why Burma and the Golden triangle find it very easy to ship heroin overland through China to Hong Kong rather than go at it via a more direct route. When, during the great leap forward, Peking commanded unreasonable grain requisitions from the provinces, *all* provinces contributed, and *all* provinces suffered starvation. Anhui and central China suffered far more than other parts of China. I'd guess that 70% of the deaths due to starvation during 58 to about 64 occurred in that part of Central China. The obvious reasons were: 1) Proximity and easy communicatuion with Beijing, and 2) Large tracts of previously arable land (ie, you don't bother exerting despotism over an area that can't do much anyway). you are also arguing that Mao's communism was a different thing than Stalin's communism. No, I am arguing that Chinese communism was a different thing from Soviet commusim, for the precise reason that the weight of Chinese history would be fairly quick to erase Chinese commusim. Any China hand could have predicted exactly that, and indeed that's precisely what happened. Our decision to back the far-more corrupt Chiang regime all the way to 1973 or whenever, was a major blunder, if for no other reason then to accelerate the isolation of the Soviets. Mao would have been very hip to the manuever, and I bet would have welcomed it (The Soviets were never very useful to the Chinese communists). In other words, even a smart rabid anti-communist should have recognized that backing Mao's Bandits was at some point obvious, but most were far too blinded by their ideology to see that. The same thing's happening with Iraq and Iran. Iran's making overtures that we consistently ignore because were too darned dumb and power-oriented to see the opportunity. -TD Both used ruthless terror to establish extraordinary control over a far flung empire that had formerly been ruled by relatively light hand, and then used that extraordinary control to extort extraordinary resources from the peasantry. The difference between Stalin's frequent references to the poor peasants (who were supposedly carrying out the liquidation of the kulaks in revolutionary zeal) and Mao's similar references is merely that Mao was more thorough in creating the simulation of a mass movement. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG xGYJrVMJ5Hx9Dgyly/Lt7Vk6TKJAugVqAcp3+7mq 4rvMXJ51mdk2UqHkU40M50T9s5aAMzX99JW0hQGT/
Re: Gettin' Our Scots-Irish Up
At 07:29 PM 11/15/2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote: The National Review November 15, 2004, 8:24 a.m. Gettin' Our Scots-Irish Up Country music reflects America's spirit. The music that I associate with National Review is distinctly not country-western - it's Bach's Second Brandenburg Concerto, used as the theme music for Bill Buckley's program Firing Line. They may be putting on country-boy airs, but they're still elitists... Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gettin' Our Scots-Irish Up
-- On 16 Nov 2004 at 10:17, Bill Stewart wrote: The music that I associate with National Review is distinctly not country-western - it's Bach's Second Brandenburg Concerto, used as the theme music for Bill Buckley's program Firing Line. They may be putting on country-boy airs, but they're still elitists... Perhaps, but it is characteristic of american conservatives to claim to be rednecks or hillbillies - and characteristic of american leftists to condemn their opponents as trailer park trash, rednecks, hillbillies, and sister fuckers. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG KvBpkRgMY1EaRdittHLTuKxpXHzlpZNo6UE55J9v 4c1dfn1oWWGKl5Zmmwoij539ww8jvi8JqwMuasWVW
