Re: WebMoney

2005-04-20 Thread James A. Donald
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:20:46PM +0300, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> > Second, has anyone seen http://www.wmtransfer.com/ ? Ok, it's
> > Russian, so not a lot of trust in there... on the other hand, it
> > DOES mean it's unlikely to bow to US pressure.

On 20 Apr 2005 at 19:23, Pawe  Krawczyk wrote:
> Haven't used it personally yet but in Russia it seems to be equally
> popular as PayPal in the West. This implies that people trust it. The
> only problem is that when you would like to use it from the West you'd
> need to find an exchange and most of them are located in Russia and
> Ukraine.

You can do transfers between webmoney and Pecunix, using 
http://exchange.net.ua, but it costs you about 3% each way.

http://www.wmtransfer.com/ has you create a secret key, (at least in 
the classic version) which it signs.  This enables you to do money 
transfers and send and receive secret messages concerning those money 
transfers.

Pecunix has a PGP version, which relies on your PGP secret key.

Paypal has notoriously terrible security, which they solve by rather 
arbitrarily confiscating money from accounts that they dim wittedly 
suspect of engaging in fraudulent transactions.

Because webmoney takes security rather seriously, they do not accept 
credit card transactions, which is a major pain.  Nor can you convert 
paypal to or from other internet moneys.

The fact that webmoney takes security so seriously suggests to me 
that they are honest - but, of course, the fact that they are russian 
suggests .





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RE: WebMoney

2005-04-20 Thread Marcel Popescu
Thank you, I didn't realize it was that well-known, it's the first time I
heard about it.

(It seems I'm unsubscribed from cypherpunks, as I haven't received even my
own email.)

Marcel


> -Original Message-
> From: Paweł Krawczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:23 PM
> To: Marcel Popescu
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: WebMoney
> 
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:20:46PM +0300, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> 
> > Second, has anyone seen http://www.wmtransfer.com/ ? Ok, it's Russian,
> so
> > not a lot of trust in there... on the other hand, it DOES mean it's
> unlikely
> > to bow to US pressure.
> 
> Haven't used it personally yet but in Russia it seems to be equally
> popular as PayPal in the West. This implies that people trust it. The
> only problem is that when you would like to use it from the West you'd
> need to find an exchange and most of them are located in Russia and
> Ukraine.
> 
> --
> Paweł Krawczyk, Kraków, Poland
> ABA http://www.aba.krakow.pl/
> ul. Bociana 22a, 30-230 Kraków
> tel. (0-12) 4158781




Re: WebMoney

2005-04-20 Thread Paweł Krawczyk
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:20:46PM +0300, Marcel Popescu wrote:

> Second, has anyone seen http://www.wmtransfer.com/ ? Ok, it's Russian, so
> not a lot of trust in there... on the other hand, it DOES mean it's unlikely
> to bow to US pressure.

Haven't used it personally yet but in Russia it seems to be equally
popular as PayPal in the West. This implies that people trust it. The
only problem is that when you would like to use it from the West you'd
need to find an exchange and most of them are located in Russia and
Ukraine.

-- 
Paweł Krawczyk, Kraków, Poland
ABA http://www.aba.krakow.pl/
ul. Bociana 22a, 30-230 Kraków
tel. (0-12) 4158781



Re: WebMoney

2005-04-20 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Marcel Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, was there a black hole on this list, or am I the only one who isn't
> receiving any messages?

It seems to be working for me, just not much traffic lately.

-- 
Riad S. Wahby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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WebMoney

2005-04-20 Thread Marcel Popescu
First, was there a black hole on this list, or am I the only one who isn't
receiving any messages?

Second, has anyone seen http://www.wmtransfer.com/ ? Ok, it's Russian, so
not a lot of trust in there... on the other hand, it DOES mean it's unlikely
to bow to US pressure.

Any opinion?

Thanks,
Marcel