Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Jay Listo wrote: > Well, once the Supreme Court starts coming up with stuff like this, you > know you've been Bush-whacked. Maybe you should take another look at who voted how. The Bushies dissented on this opinion. Go figure. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty." Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
Well, once the Supreme Court starts coming up with stuff like this, you know you've been Bush-whacked. J.A. Terranson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: What this equates to is, whoever had more money than you can take away your home. Previously, it was just the occasional men-with-guns that could do this, but now they effectively have proxies everywhere. It just makes formal (and official) what has existed for a long time. The guy with the most money can do whatever the fuck s/he wants to, with no regard to any rule of law or social responsibility, and there isn't anyone who wants to change that. After all, if we really wanted to change it, it wouldn't be just four or five cpunks bitching on a now obsolete mailing list - it would be citizens with guns storming the halls of congresscritters.
Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: > What this equates to is, whoever had more money than you can take away your > home. Previously, it was just the occasional men-with-guns that could do > this, but now they effectively have proxies everywhere. It just makes formal (and official) what has existed for a long time. The guy with the most money can do whatever the fuck s/he wants to, with no regard to any rule of law or social responsibility, and there isn't anyone who wants to change that. After all, if we really wanted to change it, it wouldn't be just four or five cpunks bitching on a now obsolete mailing list - it would be citizens with guns storming the halls of congresscritters. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty." Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
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Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
> Yeah, but this steps crosses a line, I think. Before, your home could be > taken for a public project. Now, the supreme court has ruled that your home > can be taken for a "public project" that consists entirely of private > development, in the name of the "public good", which is supposed to equal > higher tax revenues. > > What this equates to is, whoever had more money than you can take away your > home. Previously, it was just the occasional men-with-guns that could do > this, but now they effectively have proxies everywhere. The principle of using the takings clause to transfer private property to private parties has already been approved by the Supremes. This is but another variation. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=467&invol=229 > >From: "A.Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good > >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) > > > >> How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can > >> easily be replaced.) > >thermite through the engine block, frag bomb in the engine compartment, > >torch any remaining hoses, slice the tires, puncture the brake lines. > >you don't need someone to tell you this. takings clause abuse has been > >going on for a long time. Dousing the 'dozer with gas and throwing a match may suffice. The two ex-Caltech-student co-conspirators in the Los Angeles area Hummer dealership fire are still at large. Maybe they'll make their way to Connecticut or NYC* and put their skills to use for a worthy cause... rather than for the Marxist ELF. * http://www.nyclu.org/eminent_domain_lj_article_060105.html
Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
Tyler Durden wrote: Holy crap. Some shitty little township can now bulldoze your house because someone wants to convert the space into a Waffle House. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/ Where's Tim May when you need him? Where's the RAGE? How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can easily be replaced.) -TD Mr.May saw this coming a long time ago. He expressed any "rage" then, Apparently, no one was listening but the choir. Does anyone think anyone will listen or actually do anything constructive now? And does being able to say "I told you so" provide any real comfort? Time is past for "expressing" "rage", I'd think.And that's probably enuf sed. jbdigriz
Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
This is very bad news. A lot of people will loose their homes to private 'economic developers'. It certainly means no right to have a permenant home. When suburbs start developing, the people are going to be evicted over and over. How long will this continue? If they cant do any good for individual citizens, how are they going to do it for the public good? --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holy crap. Some shitty little township can now > bulldoze your house because > someone wants to convert the space into a Waffle > House. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/ > > Where's Tim May when you need him? Where's the RAGE? > > How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, > bulldozer operators can easily > be replaced.) > > -TD > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
Yeah, but this steps crosses a line, I think. Before, your home could be taken for a public project. Now, the supreme court has ruled that your home can be taken for a "public project" that consists entirely of private development, in the name of the "public good", which is supposed to equal higher tax revenues. What this equates to is, whoever had more money than you can take away your home. Previously, it was just the occasional men-with-guns that could do this, but now they effectively have proxies everywhere. -TD From: "A.Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) > How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can > easily be replaced.) thermite through the engine block, frag bomb in the engine compartment, torch any remaining hoses, slice the tires, puncture the brake lines. you don't need someone to tell you this. takings clause abuse has been going on for a long time.
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Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
> How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can > easily be replaced.) thermite through the engine block, frag bomb in the engine compartment, torch any remaining hoses, slice the tires, puncture the brake lines. you don't need someone to tell you this. takings clause abuse has been going on for a long time.
Private Homes may be taken for public good
Holy crap. Some shitty little township can now bulldoze your house because someone wants to convert the space into a Waffle House. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8331097/ Where's Tim May when you need him? Where's the RAGE? How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can easily be replaced.) -TD
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