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Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED? 
Theoretically, something like that is possible, but my only ideas aren't so 
hot. For instance, and elderly couple could sow some form of radioactive 
substance into their grounds, in quantities that would take longer than 
their life expectancy to kill them.


Of course, a cleanup might be possible, but that would theoretically wack 
out the cost structures.


There might be other less drastic measures that can be taken, however, such 
as finding a way to boost up the property costs so that the developers lose 
interest or perhaps even creating a very hard-to-find landlord that is 
collecting vast sums (on paper) for the rent of the property.


These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.

-TD




RE: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Trei, Peter


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Durden
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Posion Pill for ED?
 
 
 Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED? 
 Theoretically, something like that is possible, but my only 
 ideas aren't so 
 hot. For instance, and elderly couple could sow some form of 
 radioactive 
 substance into their grounds, in quantities that would take 
 longer than 
 their life expectancy to kill them.
 
 Of course, a cleanup might be possible, but that would 
 theoretically wack 
 out the cost structures.
 
 There might be other less drastic measures that can be taken, 
 however, such 
 as finding a way to boost up the property costs so that the 
 developers lose 
 interest or perhaps even creating a very hard-to-find 
 landlord that is 
 collecting vast sums (on paper) for the rent of the property.
 
 These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.
 
 -TD

1. Make your property a habitat for endangered species; there are
plenty of plants, bugs, and small animals that qualify.

Getting them there in the first place is probably illegal, but
once they're established, no development which destroys their
habitat is legal, generally speaking.

2. Similarly, and even simpler, turn strategic portions of
your property into wetlands or vernal pools. Similar protections
vs development apply.

Peter Trei




Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-05 Thread Duncan Frissell


Fine, I'll just order the birth certificate and get it over with,
right?
Wrong. New York wants affirmative proof of identity for a copy
now:
passport or your [missing] original birth certificate. Anyone
else
see a circular problem here?


http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/birth.htm
Identification Requirements - application must be submitted with copies
of either A or B:

One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID: 

Driver license 
Non-Driver Photo-ID Card 
Passport 
Employment ID 

Two (2) of the following showing the applicant's name and address: 

Utility or telephone bills 
Letter from a government agency dated within the last six (6) months 

Employment ID (like school ID) can be issued by anyone since anyone
in America can employ or teach others. If you want to be fancy,
pick up one of these. 

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1Sku=AVE02900

DCF




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RE: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Interesting. it occurs to me also that a Tim May-based approach may work: 
Lay out landmines and boobytraps all over the place, and then forget where 
you put 'em. No one's really going to want to drive a bulldozer over that!


-TD


From: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Posion Pill for ED?
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:46:05 -0400



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Durden
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Posion Pill for ED?


 Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED?
 Theoretically, something like that is possible, but my only
 ideas aren't so
 hot. For instance, and elderly couple could sow some form of
 radioactive
 substance into their grounds, in quantities that would take
 longer than
 their life expectancy to kill them.

 Of course, a cleanup might be possible, but that would
 theoretically wack
 out the cost structures.

 There might be other less drastic measures that can be taken,
 however, such
 as finding a way to boost up the property costs so that the
 developers lose
 interest or perhaps even creating a very hard-to-find
 landlord that is
 collecting vast sums (on paper) for the rent of the property.

 These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.

 -TD

1. Make your property a habitat for endangered species; there are
plenty of plants, bugs, and small animals that qualify.

Getting them there in the first place is probably illegal, but
once they're established, no development which destroys their
habitat is legal, generally speaking.

2. Similarly, and even simpler, turn strategic portions of
your property into wetlands or vernal pools. Similar protections
vs development apply.

Peter Trei






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Re: Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-05 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:51 -0400, Duncan Frissell wrote:
 http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1Sku=AVE02900

Since I can't get anything but an error page saying my browser is not
accepting cookies, even after actually accepting cookies, what is this
in plain English?

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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2005-07-05 Thread Phoenix Marketing
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RE: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Ulex Europae
At 15:46 05-07-05 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Durden

 These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.
 
 -TD

2. Similarly, and even simpler, turn strategic portions of
your property into wetlands or vernal pools. Similar protections
vs development apply.

Works perfectly in theory, doesn't always work in practice:

http://www.wmnf.org/programming/news.php?ReportId=2060

Ulex



The Nazification Of America, Part 2 (Day 5)

2005-07-05 Thread J.A. Terranson

When last I wrote, I was facing a dilemma: how to get a copy of my brith
certificate so that I could get a copy of my birth certificate :-/

I managed to clear the hurdle of the missing brith certificate.  Kinda.
Sorta maybe...

So, new certificate in hand, I went off to the DMV to get my picture taken
(wearing my Frisk Me, I'm A Terrorist T-Shirt of course).  At 8:50am I
was eagerly awaiting the opening of the local DMV office, and by the
opening bell at 9:00, there was actually a *line* behind me!

I rushed to the counter, plopped down my proof of insurance, proof of
address (a recent mailed in voter reg card), my old Illinois drivers
license, social security card, and held my breath.

They took them, and handed me back a form to check that everything was
correct prior to snapping the pic.  Oddly, it wasn't: the date of birth
was wrong, and it took them about 15 minutes to fix it (apparently the
computers are programmed to avoid the changing of a DOB, and they were
dumbfounded at how to proceed).  Finally, the moment arrived, and I was
the proud owner of not just a new Missouri driver's license (with clearly
shoing T-Shirt on the photo), but a Missouri state ID as well.

Then it was my wife's turn.  Unfortunately, she was turned away: even
though she had everything I did, she forgot to bring a certified copy of
our marriage license!  Without it, they refused to use her married name
for the license...  I trudged over to the city for a copy of said marriage
license, and lo, of course, there was aline out the door - women of every
age and description suddenly finding it necessary to get a certified copy
of their marriage license!  What a shocker - the Collector of Revenue is
having a field day with this.

She will try again tomorrow, and I certain that this time it will all
work out, but still, I am left with disturbing questions.  For instance,
when we went to get *her* birth certificate, why did they not give a damn
*who* was asking for it?  Why is everyone on earth getting to charge an
extra $12.00 here and $12.00 there to allow us the privelege of complying
with this absurd law (which, BTW, even the fucking British refuse to
pass)?  This country is out of control, bouncing endlessly between
administrative fiat and endless taxation, and all we can worry about is
that some ephemeral Terrorist is going to blow up a bus?  To be honest,
I'm *far* more worried that George will blow up another country that I am
about some guy stealing my ID and using it to defeat democracy in
Quebec

--
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Re: [Antisocial] The Nazification Of America, Part 2 (Day 5)

2005-07-05 Thread Jason Coombs

J.A. Terranson wrote:

administrative fiat and endless taxation, and all we can worry about is
that some ephemeral Terrorist is going to blow up a bus?  To be honest,


Come now, J.A., you know very well that we are all afraid that somebody 
will smuggle a chicken from Asia into a major metropolitan area of the 
U.S. -- it's not the bus we're trying to stop, but the chicken, from 
crossing the road: while infected with something nasty and contagious.


REAL ID is meant to stop the contagious-chicken smugglers. Are you one?

Cheers,

Jason Coombs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-05 Thread Bill Stewart

At 05:09 PM 7/5/2005, J.A. Terranson wrote:

OSince I am out of state, the letter's return address serves as my proof
of address, however, it also (according to several city corpses^H^H^H
droids) meand that I need:

* One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
* Driver license
* Non-Driver Photo-ID Card
* Passport

*and*

one of anything else.  Of course, the problem is that these three
require the BC...


Your postal mail forwards from your old address, doesn't it?
And your old driver's license is still valid,
though the state you moved to wants to hit you up for a new one of theirs.

Alternatively,  if you prefer the Two From Column B menu,
it should be easy to get a letter from a government agency -
just get a traffic ticket (:-) or write them about something bureaucratic,
like how to get a driver's license, or a complaint to your State 
Assemblycritter,

and Bob oughta be your uncle.



Re: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Tyler Durden wrote:

 Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED?

Assuming that high speed lead poisoning is not what you had in mind, the
only sure-fire (groan?) thing i can think of would be to deed the property
to a congresscritter, transferrable 10 years after your death.

100% Guarantee there will be NO development on that land for 10 years!

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-07-05 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Tyler Durden wrote:

 Well, fat chance. Do the liberals actually DO anything besides talk? At
 least the rabid Christian right can organize some painful activities. The
 liberal left only seem to try to make enough of a stink for someone else
 to do something. As the feds shut down their printing presses, they'll
 bemoan the loss of rights while handing over the keys without a fight.

 OK, if this isn't true I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Unfortunately, this is all too true.  The evidence is everywhere around
you - asking someone to try and disprove it is disingenuous :-(

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



They Can Hear You Now...

2005-07-05 Thread J.A. Terranson
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/05/crime.prevention.ap/index.html

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Police installed video surveillance cameras
around town and saw Chicago's murder rate fall to its lowest level in four
decades. Now the cops hope to further cut crime by not only watching, but
listening, too.

The city is employing new technology that recognizes the sound of a
gunshot within a two-block radius, pinpoints the source, turns a
surveillance camera toward the shooter and places a 911 call.

Welcome to crime-fighting in the 21st century.

Instead of just having eyes, you have the advantage of both eyes and
ears, said Bryan Baker, chief executive of Safety Dynamics LLC, the
company in suburban Oak Brook that makes the systems.

The technology isn't just gaining favor in Chicago, where 30 of the
devices have already been installed in high-crime neighborhoods alongside
video surveillance cameras. Baker says dozens more installations will
follow.

In Los Angeles County, the sheriff's department plans to deploy 20 units
in a pilot test, and officials in Tijuana, Mexico, recently bought 353
units, Baker said. Police in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and San
Francisco, California, are close to launching test programs of their own,
and New Orleans, Louisiana, and Atlanta, Georgia, also have made
inquiries.
Military use

Safety Dynamics also works with the U.S. Army and Navy, developing systems
that could detect a range of sounds such as glass shattering or diesel
trucks slowing in an unexpected location.

Some U.S. troops in Iraq already have a similar system that works
differently. Designed quickly in late 2003 and early 2004 by the Defense
Advanced Research Projects Agency and BBN Technologies Inc. of Cambridge,
Massachusetts, a detector known as Boomerang can be mounted on the back
of a moving vehicle to locate hostile gunfire.

The Safety Dynamics system deployed in Chicago, known formally as Smart
Sensor Enabled Neural Threat Recognition and Identification -- or SENTRI
-- uses four microphones to triangulate, or zero in, on the shooter.

By contrast, the Boomerang has sensors mounted atop a pole that detect
shock and sound waves from a muzzle blast.

In Chicago, police hope the SENTRI system will add momentum to a
technology-fueled crackdown on guns and gang violence.

The city in 2004 reduced its homicide rate to its lowest level since 1965
and police seized 10,000 guns -- successes that were in large part
credited to a network of pods, or remote-controlled cameras that can
rotate 360 degrees and feed video directly to squad-car laptops.

The SENTRI systems are an addition to that network.

They have been extremely successful, said Monique Bond, spokeswoman for
the Chicago Office of Emergency Management. We've been able to see the
benefits that cameras and advanced technology bring to the community.
Privacy matters

The American Civil Liberties Union in Illinois is concerned about privacy
rights being violated by the city's prevalent camera system. Spokesman Ed
Yohnka said officers need to be properly trained in monitoring the cameras
and only record activity in public spaces, such as sidewalks and streets.

As long as the cameras and SENTRI system are set up in public spaces, they
do not violate the law, said Northwestern University Law School professor
Robert W. Bennett.

You don't have much in the way of privacy issues when you're in a public
area, Bennett said.

And local officials say it's hard to argue with the results.

The crime rates in Chicago are the lowest in 40 years. The price of
keeping the community safe far outweighs civil liberty issues, Bond said.

Baker stresses that SENTRI is programmed to recognize only gunshots, not
record conversations or bug private homes.

There's no mechanism for other sounds like human voices, he said.

SENTRI is the brainchild of Safety Dynamics and Dr. Theodore Berger,
director of the Center for Neural Engineering at the University of
Southern California.

Each SENTRI contains a library of acoustical patterns, or sound
signatures, which Berger developed over several years. They're used to
differentiate gunshots from other noises, such as traffic and
construction, by measuring the unique decibel level of a bullet being
fired. That way, a gunshot activates the system but a car backfiring does
not.

Adding SENTRI to an existing surveillance camera is not cheap, however.
The system costs between $4,000 and $10,000 per unit. In Chicago, money
forfeited by criminals is used to pay for both it and the accompanying
cameras.

As a result, Police Superintendent Phil Cline told a recent U.S.
Conference of Mayors meeting, the drug dealers are actually paying to
surveil themselves.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may
not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



Yeni bir hayat için fırsat kapınızda.. (cypherpunks@minder.net adresine özeldir.)

2005-07-05 Thread YesilKartBasvuru.com
Title: YesilKartBasvuru.com




Amerika'da 
yeni bir hayata ne dersiniz?Yeni 
bir hayat için daha fazla beklemeyin. Fırsatları siz yaratın!ABD, 
göçmenlik politikaları gereği, her yıl, ülkeye az sayıda göçmen veren ülkelerden 
55.000 kişiye, çekilişle ABD'de oturma ve çalışma izni vermektedir. Yeşil 
Kart Sahipleri:Amerika'da 
hayat boyu oturma - yaşama, çalışma ve ülkeye serbestçe giriş - çıkış iznine sahip 
olurlar. Amerikan 
vatandaşlık haklarından bir çoğuna sahip olurlar.Beş 
sene sonra tam vatandaşlık başvurusu yapabilirler.Amerikan 
Devlet Üniversitelerine avantajlı burs başvurusu yapabilir, öğrenim görebilirler.Amerikan 
Devlet Daireleri dahil her yerde çalışabilirler. A.B.D.'de işyeri açabilirler. 
Siz 
de bu fırsattan yararlanmak istiyorsanız hemen tıklayınız.©2005 
YesilKartBasvuru.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-05 Thread ken

J.A. Terranson wrote:


Durbin was right.  And he didn't even scratch the surface!  Anyone who
thinks this Real ID Act is about getting false ID out of the hands of
The Terrorists is an idiot: they will simply print their own drivers
licenses - this is about forcing the regular population to get used to
intrastate passports.  This act essentially forces you to have a passport
for everyday things like banking, car purchases and certain repairs,
checks, etc.


That's the point of course. The idea behind the laws is to make it 
very inconvenient to operate in society without some supposed 
proof of identity. A problem the government will then solve by 
issuing ID cards to everyone. Which will then be made compulsory.


Show me your papers, sir!

The British government is taking the same line, though isn't so 
far along the route as you are - laws going through Parliament 
right now.


Interestingly they are blaming the US for the need to have them.

They started by saying it was for terrorism (which is crap as we 
all know), then they said it was to prevent social security fraud 
(which is probably part of the reason they want them, but not a 
big enough deal to get voters behind it), then to prevent ID 
theft (does the opposite of course by introducing a single point 
of failure), then to stop illegal immigration (it won't of course, 
it'll just make illegal immigrants even more vulnerable to 
exploitation by employers or worse)  now and again there has been 
bleating about protecting the children (as if rapists are going 
to put I am a predatory sex criminal on their application form)


But last week, they just blamed you. Oh they said, the Americans 
are demanding biometric ID from all visitors. So if you have a 
passport you will need it. As most British people have passports 
anyway, and it would be silly to have a passport that could be 
used anywhere but the USA, it'll save money to issue one single 
biometric ID for everybody...


At the moment it looks as if the pass-card laws in the UK will 
fail. Well not fail on paper, because the spin doctors and PR 
merchants won't allow that to happen, but be watered down in the 
House of Lords  so far that they won't have much effect. Of course 
that's still bad because the principle will still be there for 
some future government to exploit. They are desperately unpopular 
with the country at large - though sadly it seems to be the cost 
and inconvenience rather than the principle that people object to.


The Conservatives are voting against mainly because that's what 
opposition parties do in British politics, but if they ever get 
back into power you can be sure they will adopt the plan with a 
few minor cosmetic changes so they can pretend it has been 
improved. More of their MPs support it than Labour do - but party 
discipline being what it is in Parliament its unlikely that more 
than the same 20-odd Labour MPs will vote against it in Parliament.


And whenever a journalists asks a Cabinet Minister why they are 
spending 20 billions on flashy plastic cards (how many extra 
police could they employ for that money?) they say that they have 
to do it because the USA is making them do it.


But its not our fault. Its all those nasty Americans. Don't blame 
me, Mummy. The bad man made me do it.




Re: Plame != Palme :-) Re: Palme revealed by... Karl Rove!

2005-07-05 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, Bill Stewart wrote:

 You're mixing up assassinating a president with
 treason performed for revenge and crude political gain.

No, I'm merely a dyslexic typist Bill :-/  As many years of my posts
clearly show :-)


 At 11:56 AM 7/2/2005, J.A. Terranson wrote:
 5000 Quatloos that nobody thinks this is (a) impeachment material, or (b)
 prosecutable since it was done by Rove...

 It's only impeachable if Bush knew and couldn't justify
 his lack of response as executive privilege.
 I'd assume his handlers have a standing agreement of
 plausible deniability for that sort of thing.

Sure.  Just like the last fuckhead in that office, who was nevertheless
pursued with zeal and vigor (correctly so IMNSHO).


 As far as prosecutable goes, it'd sure be fun to watch,
 unless of course there's another runaway bride
 or dead puppy or somebody burns a flag on July 4th
 or the comet blows up real good
 or whatever else it takes to distract the public for 15 minutes.

I personally think that O'Conner's resignation will be the distractant.
Maybe amplified by a Gonzalez nomination.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Plame != Palme :-) Re: Palme revealed by... Karl Rove!

2005-07-05 Thread Bill Stewart

You're mixing up assassinating a president with
treason performed for revenge and crude political gain.

At 11:56 AM 7/2/2005, J.A. Terranson wrote:

5000 Quatloos that nobody thinks this is (a) impeachment material, or (b)
prosecutable since it was done by Rove...


It's only impeachable if Bush knew and couldn't justify
his lack of response as executive privilege.
I'd assume his handlers have a standing agreement of
plausible deniability for that sort of thing.

As far as prosecutable goes, it'd sure be fun to watch,
unless of course there's another runaway bride
or dead puppy or somebody burns a flag on July 4th
or the comet blows up real good
or whatever else it takes to distract the public for 15 minutes.



Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED? 
Theoretically, something like that is possible, but my only ideas aren't so 
hot. For instance, and elderly couple could sow some form of radioactive 
substance into their grounds, in quantities that would take longer than 
their life expectancy to kill them.


Of course, a cleanup might be possible, but that would theoretically wack 
out the cost structures.


There might be other less drastic measures that can be taken, however, such 
as finding a way to boost up the property costs so that the developers lose 
interest or perhaps even creating a very hard-to-find landlord that is 
collecting vast sums (on paper) for the rent of the property.


These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.

-TD




Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-05 Thread Duncan Frissell


Fine, I'll just order the birth certificate and get it over with,
right?
Wrong. New York wants affirmative proof of identity for a copy
now:
passport or your [missing] original birth certificate. Anyone
else
see a circular problem here?


http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/birth.htm
Identification Requirements - application must be submitted with copies
of either A or B:

One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID: 

Driver license 
Non-Driver Photo-ID Card 
Passport 
Employment ID 

Two (2) of the following showing the applicant's name and address: 

Utility or telephone bills 
Letter from a government agency dated within the last six (6) months 

Employment ID (like school ID) can be issued by anyone since anyone
in America can employ or teach others. If you want to be fancy,
pick up one of these. 

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1Sku=AVE02900

DCF




RE: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-05 Thread Trei, Peter


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Durden
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Posion Pill for ED?
 
 
 Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED? 
 Theoretically, something like that is possible, but my only 
 ideas aren't so 
 hot. For instance, and elderly couple could sow some form of 
 radioactive 
 substance into their grounds, in quantities that would take 
 longer than 
 their life expectancy to kill them.
 
 Of course, a cleanup might be possible, but that would 
 theoretically wack 
 out the cost structures.
 
 There might be other less drastic measures that can be taken, 
 however, such 
 as finding a way to boost up the property costs so that the 
 developers lose 
 interest or perhaps even creating a very hard-to-find 
 landlord that is 
 collecting vast sums (on paper) for the rent of the property.
 
 These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.
 
 -TD

1. Make your property a habitat for endangered species; there are
plenty of plants, bugs, and small animals that qualify.

Getting them there in the first place is probably illegal, but
once they're established, no development which destroys their
habitat is legal, generally speaking.

2. Similarly, and even simpler, turn strategic portions of
your property into wetlands or vernal pools. Similar protections
vs development apply.

Peter Trei