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2005-09-14 Thread powerpromo2







Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

2005-09-14 Thread James A. Donald
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> Did the Cypherpunks have their heyday and that's it?

That is it.  This is the ghost of cypherpunks.

Cypherpunks always was a self contradiction - a
political group pushing a fundamentally non political
attack upon the state, and thus upon the very existence
of politics.

This made some sense when the state was attempting to
ban and regulate encryption.  It no longer attempts to
do so, thus cypherpunks today has no real function.
Our former evil arch nemesis is now quietly doing
government do gooding to make sure that everyone has
strong cryptography.   Now the cypherpunks project is
advanced by more boring stuff: standards, software, and
business.  Excessive mention of the ideological
implications of certain standards and software would be
counterproductive. 

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Re: /. [Keyboard Sound Aids Password Cracking]

2005-09-14 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:06:21 -0400, Trei, Peter said:

> This technique is decades old. I read an account of the British
> Secret Service (MI5? 6?) installing a bugged phone next to a 
> cable machine in the London Soviet Embassy in the late 70's, but

MI5, early 60's or even late 50's.  Described in Spycatcher by
Peter Wright.

Shalom-Salam,

   Werner




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RE: /. [Keyboard Sound Aids Password Cracking]

2005-09-14 Thread Trei, Peter
Eugen Leitl wrote
> 
> Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/13/1644259
> Posted by: CmdrTaco, on 2005-09-13 17:04:00
> 
>from the but-i-love-clicky-keyboards dept.
>[1]stinerman writes "Three students at UC-Berkley used a 10 minute
>[2]recording of a keyboard to recover 96% of the characters typed
>during the session. The article details that their methods did not
>require a 'training text' in order to calibrate the conversion
>algorithm as has been used previously. The [3]research paper [PDF]
>notes that '90% of 5-character random passwords using only 
> letters can
>be generated in fewer than 20 attempts by an adversary; 80% of
>10-character passwords can be generated in fewer than 75 
> attempts.'"

This technique is decades old. I read an account of the British
Secret Service (MI5? 6?) installing a bugged phone next to a 
cable machine in the London Soviet Embassy in the late 70's, but
the events described took place earlier - perhaps in the 60s.

Peter Trei