Re: CDR: Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for cheaper hosting or domain names?

2002-07-13 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Given that you are a Web hosting company, I am surprised to see no URL
for further information.

Marc de Piolenc

 Look at This wrote:
 
 Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for
 cheaper hosting or domain names?
 
 We are a UK based company who would like to offer you our considerable
 experience and expertise in the field of website design, eCommerce,
 web hosting, domain name facilities and search engine positioning.




Re: Tax consequences...

2002-07-11 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Nomen Nescio wrote:

 So what you are suggesting is that I might as well take out US
 citizenship, since the IRS behaves just as piratically and
 imperially to anyone who gets a job in the US?

Considering only taxes, I think that's correct. You do need to consider
other things, such as what happens to your citizenship in your native
country if you are naturalized in a foreign country. Some governments
don't care, while others will treat you as an alien when you return.

As for the IRS: Your green card status means you have put yourself
squarely in their sights. Giving up the green card apparently doesn't
get you immediately off the hook, as they will still try to tax you like
a citizen. I recommend getting advice from a good US tax ATTORNEY (not a
tax preparer, who is basically an IRS employee paid by you), without
disclosing your SSN or any other identifying numbers even to him. You
also need to find out about tax treaties between your native country and
the US.

So much for legalities (which the IRS tends to ignore anyway, when they
don't suit them). Tactically, you have probably already disclosed
certain things to the IRS, and have immovable and illiquid assets within
their reach that are identifiable with you. You have to weigh the
advantages of simply moving offshore and telling them to pound salt
against what they can grab when/if you do so. You may find you need a
period of preparation during which you make your assets less vulnerable
and/or less easy to trace to you.

Marc de Piolenc

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin





Re: CDR: Tax consequences of becoming a US citizen

2002-07-10 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Nomen Nescio wrote:

 Are you saying that if someone is legally resident in the US for a
 while, the US IRS will attempt to get his assets all over the
 world forever?  I find this hard to believe.

Not necessarily get them, but tax them. Believe!

Marc de Piolenc

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Tax consequences of becoming a US citizen.

2002-07-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Basically, none. A US resident is taxed just like a citizen. In fact,
even if you are not a green card holder, but have a substantial
presence in the US, you are still taxed like a citizen.

Marc de Piolenc

An Metet wrote:
 
 What are the tax implications of a US resident green card holder, with substantial 
assets both in his original nation and in the US, of becoming a US citizen?

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Tax consequences of becoming a US citizen.

2002-07-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Basically, none. A US resident is taxed just like a citizen. In fact,
even if you are not a green card holder, but have a substantial
presence in the US, you are still taxed like a citizen.

Marc de Piolenc

An Metet wrote:
 
 What are the tax implications of a US resident green card holder, with substantial 
assets both in his original nation and in the US, of becoming a US citizen?

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: 'Enigma' reviewed in Salon.

2002-04-22 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Ultra originated in Poland, not Britain. The wartime decryption work was
of course carried out in Britain, but without the prewar seed work of
the Poles it would probably have been futile.

Marc de Piolenc

matthew X wrote:
 
 It's not the great movie yet to
 be made on the subject, but I'm sure I'm not the only one grateful to the
 makers of Enigma for placing the credit for breaking the German code back
 it belongs: with the British. After the cultural theft perpetrated two
 years ago by U-571, this modest restoration feels like an act of decency.

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: 'Enigma' reviewed in Salon.

2002-04-22 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Ultra originated in Poland, not Britain. The wartime decryption work was
of course carried out in Britain, but without the prewar seed work of
the Poles it would probably have been futile.

Marc de Piolenc

matthew X wrote:
 
 It's not the great movie yet to
 be made on the subject, but I'm sure I'm not the only one grateful to the
 makers of Enigma for placing the credit for breaking the German code back
 it belongs: with the British. After the cultural theft perpetrated two
 years ago by U-571, this modest restoration feels like an act of decency.

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Re: overcoming ecash deployment problems (Re: all about transferable off-line ecash)

2002-04-12 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



A. Melon wrote:
 
 Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 06:59  AM, Mike Rosing wrote:
   But the reason we have AC today is because Tesla requested no
   royalties on his motor/generator.  Something for Brands to think
   about.
 
  No, we have AC because AC works better than DC in home wiring
  situations.
 
 Hmmm.  I always thought the reason we went with AC was because at the
 time, DC power couldn't cut it.  They couldn't find any way to reliably
 transfer DC power more than a half mile or so from the power plant, and
 when trying to demonstrate it in NYC couldn't even get DC power all the
 way up a multi-story building.

You're saying the same thing. AC works for transmission over long
distances because it can be cheaply stepped up in voltage for
transmission to minimize losses, then stepped down again for safe
domestic use. We now have machinery that does that fairly cheaply for
DC, but it's still more expensive than a simple transformer with the
same capacity. Long range transmission line are now often high-voltage
DC, to take advantage of higher average power at a given peak voltage;
it is now possible to efficiently reconvert to AC at the end. In
Edison's day that was not so. If his commutated DC generators generated
32 volts (and high-voltage DC generators would have been very difficult
to build in those days), that was the transmission voltage, and you had
to have a powerplant on every block.

What held up AC as a distribution format was the absence of practical AC
motors - Tesla broke that logjam, asking little in return, and the rest
is history.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Among the Bourgeoisophobes

2002-04-11 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Gil Hamilton wrote:
 
 F. Marc de Piolenc forwards:
 
 Among the Bourgeoisophobes
 Why  the  Europeans and Arabs, each in their own way, hate America and
 Israel.
 
 http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/102gwtnf.asp
 
 It may be true that they hate freedom in some
 narrow sense, but it misses the point: what they really hate is the
 godless, arrogant, materialistic, undeserved (etc. from the article)
 appearance communicated by the exports of our culture.  It is this
 hatred of the perception of our culture that is misinterpreted (by
 shallow and jingoistic analysts on *our* side) as they just hate our
 freedom.

It would be more on target to say that they hate the *consequences of
freedom, but I like the simpler formulation better. The absence of fear
and awe (arrogance), the rejection of superstition (godlessness),
confidence, active pursuit of gain - all are outgrowths not merely of
freedom, which we have in only a relative sense - but of the
*expectation* of freedom and the responsibility that goes with it.

 Which leads me to a couple of other comments.  The additional security
 restrictions imposed on Americans since 9/11 clearly play right into
 their hands.

So very true...and very sad. As long as we're putting untrained but
heavily armed National Guardsmen in airports and finding new ways to spy
on each other, Bin Laden has won no matter what happens to him
personally.

 Another point well made here is the notion that American left-wing
 intellectuals and politicians, as well as right-wing fundamentalists
 and their politicians, all fall into this same boat. 

A point made by Ayn Rand many years ago, but less entertainingly.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: overcoming ecash deployment problems (Re: all about transferable off-line ecash)

2002-04-11 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



A. Melon wrote:
 
 Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 06:59  AM, Mike Rosing wrote:
   But the reason we have AC today is because Tesla requested no
   royalties on his motor/generator.  Something for Brands to think
   about.
 
  No, we have AC because AC works better than DC in home wiring
  situations.
 
 Hmmm.  I always thought the reason we went with AC was because at the
 time, DC power couldn't cut it.  They couldn't find any way to reliably
 transfer DC power more than a half mile or so from the power plant, and
 when trying to demonstrate it in NYC couldn't even get DC power all the
 way up a multi-story building.

You're saying the same thing. AC works for transmission over long
distances because it can be cheaply stepped up in voltage for
transmission to minimize losses, then stepped down again for safe
domestic use. We now have machinery that does that fairly cheaply for
DC, but it's still more expensive than a simple transformer with the
same capacity. Long range transmission line are now often high-voltage
DC, to take advantage of higher average power at a given peak voltage;
it is now possible to efficiently reconvert to AC at the end. In
Edison's day that was not so. If his commutated DC generators generated
32 volts (and high-voltage DC generators would have been very difficult
to build in those days), that was the transmission voltage, and you had
to have a powerplant on every block.

What held up AC as a distribution format was the absence of practical AC
motors - Tesla broke that logjam, asking little in return, and the rest
is history.

Marc de Piolenc




Among the Bourgeoisophobes

2002-04-11 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Among the Bourgeoisophobes
Why  the  Europeans and Arabs, each in their own way, hate America and
Israel.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/102gwtnf.asp
-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

2002-04-06 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

It's very important to distinguish propaganda from fact. It is indeed
convenient to lable people you don't like terrorist - the Germans did
that with the French resistance - but fortunately there are generally
accepted definitions of that term against which propaganda labels can be
tested, if you care to...

Terrorism has nothing to do with irregular warfare, or what you call
not playing fair. It concerns chiefly the choice of target and the
ultimate result desired. 

A warrior - whether guerrillero, résistant or regular - attacks his
adversary directly and seeks to damage him, preferably enough to take
him out of action. 

A terrorist attacks a target conveniently designated by him as SYMBOLIC
of his chosen adversary; the target is preferably unsuspecting and
undefended. The ultimate purpose is to frighten his adversary, or
somebody with influence on that adversary, into harming himself. In the
case of most current terrorist organizations, the target is liberal
western republics, and the aim is to instill fear that will be manifest
in repression that will in effect dismantle the freedom that the
terrorists hate.

Marc de Piolenc

Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote:
 
 At 02:59 PM 4/6/02 +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
 Nonsense. If you can't see any difference between terrorists and
 risistants you are either wilfully ignorant or confused.
 
 Terrorist is what the bigger side of an asymmetrical conflict
 call the smaller side.  Also crazy, and other intended-derogatory
 labels.





Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

2002-04-06 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You've been listening to Shrub to much.   What makes you think this is about
 hating freedom?  Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking
 business???

I really don't give a fig about the opinions of the current resident of
the White House. I've been studying terror and its practitioners for
about 25 years and I know their mentality.

I'm sorry you've bought the terrorist line that it's all about US
support for Israel. I know better. We could withdraw from the Middle
East tomorrow, and all that would change would be the excuse.

Marc de Piolenc





Re: CDR: Julia Child was a Spook

2002-04-06 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Nonsense. If you can't see any difference between terrorists and
résistants you are either wilfully ignorant or confused.

A terrorist strikes symbolic targets, preferably undefended ones. A
résistant strikes at the occupying power.

Of course it is possible for one and the same person to be both - it is
behavior that defines the terrorist. So when an al-Quaida member takes
on a US patrol, he may define himself as some kind of soldier in that
encounter. It doesn't change the fact of his complicity in the murder of
innocents, which makes him a terrorist as well.

Marc de Piolenc

Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 
 http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/apr/spies/index.html
 
 [Ed: amusing that sleeper agents who infiltrated occupied
 territories are
 glorified by the winner of that conflict.. but when the US is the
 occupier, the
 resistance agents are terrorists..]




Accolade?

2002-03-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Ask a Booch accolade to define 'simple' and 'complex' sometime.

I think you mean acolyte, as in disciple or follower, not accolade
as in praise...

If you like using ten-dollar words (and I do), keep a dictionary handy.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: PSYOPS/Foreign agent John W. Rendon Jr: Osama Comic?

2002-02-19 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

A few details that make me doubt the authenticity of this news item, or
perhaps the accuracy with which it is reported.

Major Variola (ret) wrote:

 
General Worden envisions a broad mission ranging from
 black
campaigns that use disinformation and other covert
 activities to white
public affairs that rely on truthful news releases,
 Pentagon officials said.

The terms black and white do not refer to the question of whether
the propaganda message is false or true. Instead, they refer to whether
the true source of the message is declared or disguised. Black
propaganda purports to emanate from a source other than the true one.
The message itself, however, may be either false or true.

Marc de Piolenc





Re: CDR: Re: What Kind Of Government......

2002-02-07 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Steve Schear wrote:

 I was having trouble understanding the thought constructs that these judges
 use to arrive at their application and interpretation of the constitutional
 issues until I came across a copy of a 1995 treatise by Larry Lessig,
 Translating Federalism: United States v Lopez.

 Larry's paper its not on-line that I know, but if any on the list want a
 copy I'll be happy to send them the .pdf

I would be grateful for a chance to download this paper. If it is bigger
than 1.5 MB it is an iffy proposition as an attachment to email, so
perhaps a temporary posting to a free Web server...?

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Property Rights

2002-01-28 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
 
  Jim Choate wrote:
  
   Property rights don't exist as absolute human rights.
 
  Nonsense. It is impossible to logically separate property rights from
  the right to life.
 
 I disagree. Life  Property. One can have life with absolutely no
 property. One can not have property without life.

Simple proof using reductio ad absurdam:

Let us assume you are correct, and the right to life does NOT imply any
right to property.

Consider the following hypothetical (but feasible) scenario:

A stalks B. Whenever B acquires food or drink, A deprives him of it. B
has no right to property, so A has done no wrong.

Eventually, however, B dies of starvation or thirst. A has deprived him
of his life by depriving him only of property, thus refuting the initial
assumption.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Property Rights

2002-01-27 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 Property rights don't exist as absolute human rights. 

Nonsense. It is impossible to logically separate property rights from
the right to life. The right to life is absolute, therefore the right to
property is, too.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: James Bovard On Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants

2002-01-15 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jei wrote:
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:17:53 -0500
 From: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: James Bovard On Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants
 
 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:21:08 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Jim Bovard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Matt - Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants
 
 Matt:
 Thought you might enjoy this bouquet for the war on terrorism.
 take it easy,
 Jim
 
   USA Today   January 10, 2002
 
Don't bed down with tyrants to fight terrorism
By James Bovard
 
President Bush recently declared: So long as anybody's
terrorizing established governments, there needs to
 be a war.
Bush rightfully sought international support for the campaign
to put the al_Qaeda terrorist network out of
 business. But the
war on terrorism threatens to become a license for tyranny.
The United Nations is concerned that an expansive call for
governments to crack down on terrorism - a crime that is not
clearly defined - 

It IS clearly defined - and by the same government that is now ignoring
the definition.

Marc de Piolenc





The vital private archive

2002-01-15 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Dear Michael,

Wow - two minds with but one set of thoughts.

Michael Motyka wrote:
 
 Won't it be wonderful if the Court rules in favor of the 1st?
 
 OTOH, why trust in a corruptible legal system?
 
 Use cash and don't leave the ID information at the goddam bookstore in
 the first place. If you're going to keep the book and you can't deduct
 it, peel stickers, destroy receipts. Duh!

That's fine for the clued-in folk like us, but what the bookdealers are
fighting for is the vital but fragile asset of consumer confidence. Joe
Sixpack is going to think twice about buying a book on sexual impotence
- not to mention the Anarchist Cookbook - if he thinks Big Brother is
going to be following his purchases. So a favorable court decision will
mean much to the trade.

 It is time for books to be published on CD. Using open-source tools and
 good encryption, then the fascists can't even tell what you read. Unless
 your OS is corrupted.

E-books are already a fact, but most are sold with the same retail
machinery as regular books, so changing the medium doesn't change the
risk.
 
  Hack CD burners to add a SetBurnerIDCode command.

Sorry. Could you expand on the significance of this for non-programmers?
What does this command accomplish? Is it in firmware?
 
  Gather, duplicate and distribute widely state, federal
  and unpopular information that is quickly disappearing.

Yes! I've been doing that for about 20 years, but I'm fettered now by
not being able to visit my favorite research libraries in the States.

If you have personal contacts at US depository libraries that are now
being forced to destroy sensitive material, you will do mankind and
freedom a service by arranging to take that material off their hands.
Librarians have very strong instincts for preserving books - they don't
like to burn them. If they trust you to make the stuff disappear and not
reveal their help, you'll get it all. 

Other stuff turns up in library sales, pawnshops, thrift stores...all of
which are currently out of my reach!
 
 It's like F451 - private archives are the only way to save proscribed
 information.

The other side of the coin is research/reprinting services like mine,
which make the private archives available to others as copies and scans.
I also trade 2:1 (for very useful stuff, 3:1) for stuff I want. In other
words, you give me 100 pages of stuff I want, and I give you 200 (or
300) pages of stuff that I have and you want. At present, that and
downloads are the only mechanisms by which I'm able to expand my
collection.

Marc de Piolenc
Iligan, Philippines
http://www89.pair.com/techinfo/
(or see my catalog on ABE)





Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

2002-01-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Petro wrote:
 
 On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 04:27 AM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
  What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, ya?
 
  Nonsense. No reasonable definition of criminal conduct would put the US
  government and al-Quaeda in the same category.
 
 How about Criminal Conduct meaning Actions violate the laws.
 
 The USG *HAS* done that from time to time you know. Maybe not as
 baldly as al-Quaeda, but it has done so.

Okay, let's try a concrete example:

A commits the offense of blocking another's driveway with his
automobile.

B commits murder.

Is A in the same category as B? If yes, then I have to concede the
argument, because as you say the US government is not Simon-pure. I do,
however, make a distinction.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

2002-01-13 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

mattd wrote:

 US violates the Geneva Convention

 The US is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, which specifies the
 conditions under which such prisoners are to be treated.  The Convention
 covers irregular forces such as al-Qaeda as well as regular armed forces,

Al-Quaeda is not a military force by any reasonable reckoning; it is a
criminal association whose victims are defenseless and innocent of any
involvement (pro or anti) in the cause that the criminal association
claims to espouse.

 and a quick skim suggests that the US are violating it in several ways.
 Interrogation: the US has publicly stated they will interrogate the
 prisoners; however this is specificly forbidden by the convention.

Interrogation is certainly NOT prohibited by the Convention. Where are
you getting this nonsense? Every army of every signatory power has
interrogators trained and ready to process prisoners of war. Every
infantry leader is trained to rapidly elicit information of immediate
tactical value from the enemy soldiers whom he captures.

  No
 prisoner is bound to give anything more than the infamnous name, rank and
 serial number (or equivalent); coercion to gain more information is
 expressly forbidden No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of
 coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them
 information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may
 not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or
 disadvantageous treatment of any kind. (Article 17)

Right. Coercion and torture forbidden. Asking questions is not. Use of
trickery is not. Many other means of obtaining information are not.

 Housing: the US are housing the POWs in wire-mesh cages.  Unless US troops
 are quartered in similar conditions, this is a violation: Prisoners of war
 shall be quartered under conditions as favourable as those for the forces
 of the Detaining Power who are billeted in the same area.

The Convention certainly did not envision eliminating security
precautions against the escape of prisoners!
 
 Trial and punishment: POWs are considered to be subject to the same laws
 and regulations as soldiers of the detaining power; they may be tried only
 by military courts (except where jurisdiction would normally belong to
 civil courts), and sentances must be the same as for soldiers of the
 detaining power commiting similar acts.  POWs tried for acts commited prior
 to capture retain the benefits of the Convention even if convicted.

I'll say it again - these are not prisoners of war! 

 If US prisoners were treated in this manner, the US would be kicking and
 screaming.  Is this another case of US moral exceptionalism?

If the US prisoners in question had engineered, or were suspected of
having engineered, the deaths of thousands of innocent people, I suspect
that even LESS sympathy or consideration would be shown them. They
certainly would not get any from me.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Shoe bomb (fwd)

2002-01-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

It will work - provided that you provide a trained anesthetist for every
four or so passengers. There's no such thing as a safe, stable
anesthetic.

Marc de Piolenc

Marcel Popescu wrote:
 
  The following article is pretty unsettling, in that it makes the case that
- the technique is carefully thought out, and
- there will be more of these attacks, and
- there aren't good ways to stop them.
 
 Sleeping gas. Once the plane starts, fill the airplane with something that
 causes sleep. (Make sure the pilots are isolated, of course). Lots of
 savings - you don't need stewardesses, you don't need food or drinks...
 
 Mark

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin





Re: CDR: Re: Random Data Compressed 100:1 (Guffaw)

2002-01-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

I think they may be referring to a random string of _ASCII characters_.
That would be subject to compression because it is not random at the bit
level. 

But 100:1? I have no idea how to achieve that.

Marc de Piolenc

Declan McCullagh wrote:

  What exactly is random data? Does it have to appear to be random? Does
  it have to pass some set of statistical tests to be random? If a string
 
 I'm naturally skeptical of this claim (until I can verify it for
 myself), but I do not believe the claim is we can encode random data
 at 100:1.  They seem to be talking about 100:1 lossless compression
 of real-world data, which is generally not random.
 
 -DEclan

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin





Re: CDR: Re: End of the IRS??

2002-01-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Hey folks - you need to keep in mind that the not ratified argument is
not what will be discussed, and for obvious reasons. The IRS is not
competent to comment on whether their marching orders were or were not
properly ratified by the People. It is the actual content of their
statutory authority that is in question.

What WILL be discussed is the simple fact that, to make the current
internal revenue code constitutional (two previous attempts having been
overturned by the courts), those framing it simply omitted to require
people to do any action that government had no authority to require.
Instead, taxes are collected from multitudes who don't owe them by
suckering them into voluntary self-assessment. Once they have declared
themselves taxpayers - usually by declaring themselves US citizens
(federal subjects who have no Constitutional or Common Law protection)
on an SSN application - the courts use tricks of equity contract law
(which apparently doesn't require knowing consent) to force them to file
information returns and pay tax. Various strategies for undoing the
damage have been tried with varying degrees of success. Irwin Schiff is
the most successful of the strategists, having successfully practiced
what he preaches for decades.

The best strategy for most individuals is not to rely on courts (staffed
by beneficiaries of the fraudulent tax), but simply to drop out of the
system. Nobody pays any attention to notices of SSN revocation, but if
you simply stop using the one assigned you - that does work. Few
employers have the courage to refuse an IRS Notice of Levy, however
obviously illegal it is - so employ yourself. And so on. As time passes,
Atlas shrugs; the smartest and most productive get out first, leaving
sheeple as both beneficiaries and sole contributors to the fraudulent
system that they inhabit. It has been happening in my lifetime: people
who, forty years ago, would have had no choice but corporate employment
with all the liabilities that implies, now would not consider working
for anyone but themselves.

Hang 'em high? Why bother. Make 'em ineffectual!

Marc de Piolenc

Petro wrote:
 
 On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 09:00 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 
  I've never quite understood how the
  amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913
  argument is supposed to play out.





Re: CDR: Re: Who Am I Anyway?

2001-12-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
 
  It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
  effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.
 
 I have zero problem with that assertion.
 
 However, lying about ones age and getting away with it is a far cry from
 not having any security/identity checks at all.

How do you figure? If I could lie about my age, seems to me I could lie
about just about anything else, with the possible exception of sex. If I
were going for a commission, or got roped into a high-security program
that required background investigation, then I would need better
backstopping than just a set of lies on an enlistment form, but as a
plain old grunt nobody need ever know my name was NOT Michael J.
McGillicuddy.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: My week in Manila:Dial M for Mayhem.

2001-12-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

You need to get away from Manila, Mattd. It just ain't the Philippines,
any more than Paris is France.

Also: give yourself some time for acclimation before writing. I'm glad I
didn't see this piece in '96 before I first came here, because I would
have had a completely false impression of the place.

We notice the things we're not used to and forget the multiple instances
of violence we see in our hometown news in the States because we're used
to that. Perspective is needed.

Marc de Piolenc
living peacefully and happily on Mindanao

mattd wrote:
 
 Dial M for Mayhem
 Abduction,melodrama and murder: Just another week in Arroyo's greater
 Manila.





Re: CDR: Re: Who Am I Anyway?

2001-12-13 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.

Marc de Piolenc

Duncan Frissell wrote:
 
 At 05:10 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
 Which is beside your point. Your statement was that the government didn't
 do ANY identification for ANY of the soldiers in WWII. Patently wrong.
 Quit trying to change the rules in the middle of the game.




Re: CDR: Re: FreeSWAN US export controls

2001-12-12 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 
  Sigh. Choate on court decisions is like Ashcroft on civil liberties.
  Neither understands them.
 
 Ad hominim, ad hominim, ad nausium.

Gee - don't you think that if you're going to use hifalutin terms like

ad hominem and ad nauseam, you ought to learn how they're spelled?

Not knowing how they are spelled sorta makes people think you might not
know what they mean...

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: HDCP break and DMCA

2001-11-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Tim May wrote:

 Answer: they do! Go to any large copying center near a university and
 look for professor packs or HistCon 101 Course Materials consisting
 of copied material out of various textbooks, hard and soft. The deal is
 that the student takes the professor pack over to a copy machine and
 runs off a copy of each of the, for example, 400 pages. The student pays
 $20 or so and saves himself having to buy 10 books to read one or two
 chapters or sections out of each. The students are happy, the copy shop
 is happy, the professor is happy, and only the publishers and authors
 are unhappy.
 
 This was very common here in Santa Cruz, as recently as several years
 ago when I was doing a lot of copying of my own papers.
 
 There were signs up about not violating copyright law, but these
 professor packs were in clear violation.

Really? Sounds to me like they fall under Fair Use. That provision
specifically exempts copying for research or education.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

And you might mention for the nuclearly impaired that the fuel used in
RTGs is not the same as the fissionables used in reactors and weapons.

Marc de Piolenc

Eric Cordian wrote:
 
 Peter Trei wrote:
 
  I have a vague memory of seeing a photo of a ?3 inch? ball of Pu (isotopic
  composition unknown) in one of those old Time-Life books. The ball glowed
  a dull red with it's own internal heat.
 
 Sounds like plutonium-238, NASA's favorite fuel for deep space
 Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs).  It puts out 0.54
 kilowatts/kilogram and has a half life of 87.8 years.
 
 --
 Eric Michael Cordian 0+
 O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
 Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

A couple of corrections from somebody who began studying this threat
fifteen years ago.

There is little danger to weapons builders from exposure to fissile
materials, because they have very little spontaneous radioactivity. The
radioactive emissions come when the device goes supercritical during
detonation. You can actually hold a subcritical mass of plutonium in
your hand for awhile - I'm told it feels warm. Can't say I've tried it
myself.

Plans for a nuclear device are easy enough to come up with - college
kids regularly cause silly-season sensations by publishing plans for
hydrogen bombs. You can't classify the basic physics, and the data for
controlled nuclear reactions is equally applicable to deliberate
fast-prompt-critical runaways, which is what nuclear bombs are. What's
difficult is not the material, or the material processing, but the
detonator TECHNOLOGY. Even that is not a problem if you have LOTS of
U-235 or U-233 (plutonium won't work), because you can than use a
gun-type device - very heavy and wasteful of material, but workable as
proven by Hiroshima's fate.

An implosion device (and only an implosion device can be made small)
requires the simultaneous (to within microseconds) detonation of perhaps
32 composite shaped charges surrounding a spherical core and tamper
shell. The manufacture of the charges is very demanding, but the
manufacture of the detonators and switches (Krytrons) is the province of
maybe four or five firms in the entire world, all carefully monitored by
their respective governments. With a full set of _Exploding Wires_, lots
of time and extensive manufacturing support, you could eventually get a
set of krytrons with the necessary specs. Judging by the number of
recent attempts to smuggle krytrons from established sources, however,
this has not yet been accomplished by Saddam, Bin Laden or any of their
ilk.

I'm not losing any sleep over this threat.

Regards,
Marc de Piolenc

!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
 
 One thing that is bothering me these days are all the reports coming out
 of Afganistan that nuclear bomb making plans were found.  Big
 deal.  Anyone on the planet can make a nuclear device if they have the
 appropriate materials.  The hard part is staying alive due to exposure
 while manufacturing the device.
 
 If however death is not an issue then the process itself becomes easy to
 accomplish.
 
 Materials
 -
 
  4 stainless steal salad bowls (5 - 8 inch diameter)
 10 pounds of U-235 (Plutonium)
  1 containment cylinder in which to fit the salad bowls
  ? some explosives - C4 platic works best - but TNT or gun powder is
 acceptable.
 
 Assembly
 
 
 10 pounds of U-235 is required to achive critical mass.  However less will
 work but you will get a sub critical mass on detonation.  The difference
 is taking out an entire city as opposed to a few city blocks.
 
 Divide the U-235 into two five pound masses.  Beat it evenly into the
 inside of one of your salad bowls.  U-235 is malleable like gold so you
 should have no problem shaping it.  Do the same with the other U-235 mass
 and shape it into the other salad bowl.
 
 Keep the two bowls apart - you don't want an accident to cause your
 project to go critical.
 
 C4 explosives work best.  You simply mold the C4 into the other two salad
 bowls.  This is the most dangerous part of the project.  Improper handling
 of C4 can cause an explosion.  But gun powder is just as effective.
 
 Now fit the U-235 salad bowls into the C4 salad bowls and place them at
 each end of the cylindrical containment.  Connect your explosives to a
 detonator and close off the ends of the cylynder.  Make sure the detonator
 sets off both explosives at the same time.
 
 The trick is to bring the U-235 masses together at the same time.
 
 And thats it.  I would recommend some form of protection while building
 the project.  The aprons worn by dentists will work.  They will protect
 you to some degree from radioactive poisoning.  However - your life is
 only being prolonged by taking such measures - you still will end up dead
 due to the U-235 radiation regardless of what you do.
 
 And thats it.
 
 Conclusion
 --
 
 Anyone on this planet can build a nuclear device.  So the only issue in
 building the device is the will to die for a cause.  And the only thing I
 find unfortunate in all of this is that there are so many causes that
 people are willing to die for.  And war will not make those reasons go
 away - it will only encourage them.
 
 regards
 joe baptista
 
 --
 Joe Baptista
 
 http://www.dot-god.com/
 
 The dot.GOD Registry, Limited
 The Executive Plaza, Suite 908
 150 West 51st Street Tel: 1 (208) 330-4173
 Manhattan Island NYC 10019 USA   Fax: 1 (208) 293-9773

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They 

Re: CDR: Re: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection

2001-11-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Tim May wrote:

  I would like to read these papers. Are they available on-line?
 
 
 If they are, search engines will very likely have indexed them.
 
 I would do the search for you, but your retainer has expired.

Just thought you might know offhand. Search engines it is...

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection

2001-11-08 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Tim May wrote:

 Nomen Nescio and others should read Chaum's Credentials without
 identity papers. A true name is just another credential, not
 necessarily more important than any of several other credentials. People
 should think deeply about this issue.

I would like to read these papers. Are they available on-line?

Marc de Piolenc
-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Re: First Polygraphs and Then Torture?

2001-11-05 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

An even more basic point is punishment - for what? These people are
SUSPECTS, against whom no criminal act has yet been proven in open
court. They are not yet eligible for punishment in any form.

Marc de Piolenc

Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
 
 On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
 
  You ignoramus'cruel and unusual punishment'.
 
 And that's the sticking point, isn't it?





Re: CDR: MATT DRUDGE // DRUDGE REPORT 2001® - Delta Force gets bloody nose, intensity scares the crap out of everybody...

2001-11-04 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

O-kay - the learning process begins. In every war we've ever fought,
we've learned from our opponents - if the political leadership gave us
the opportunity to do it.

Now we know the Talibs have small, heavily armed forces staked out NEXT
TO obvious fixed objectives. Our next assaults will be in greater force,
and on the CURRENT enemy positions instead of those they've abandoned
under bombardment. What that means is that the combination of
bombardment and ground assault is WORKING, unless you believe that the
positions the Talibs are hastily improvising are better than those they
were forced to abandon...

Marc de Piolenc

Jim Choate wrote:
 
 http://www.drudgereport.com/flash33.htm





Re: CDR: re: Using Thermite to Drop Suspension Bridges...and U.S. plansto

2001-11-02 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

I would be interested to see that formula. I thought I knew them all,
but all the thermite formulas I know require at least a two-stage
initiator or a direct blowtorch flame.

Also, the formulas I've seen prescribe much larger particle sizes than
the colloidal range used in pigments, to keep reaction rates reasonable.

Marc de Piolenc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 There are various formulations for thermite.  The one I like best uses barium 
peroxide, sulphur and very finely divided aluminum (paint pigment works great).




Re: CDR: Transperancy Spray?

2001-11-01 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

You can find formulas for this spray in many formularies - it's been
used at least as far back as WWI for making an envelope transparent for
a few minutes. Actually, translucent would be a better term, as you can
only read text that is right up against the inside of the envelope. What
is more, the stuff is less useful than back in the fountain-pen days
because it tends to smear ball-point and other greasy inks.

Marc de Piolenc

Max Inux wrote:
 THe
 whole cant read someone elses mail thing is out the window it looks like, they can 
spray this go on the letter and read
 through the envelope..  It seems implausable but its CNN, they dont lie right? well 
ANYWAYS, I now have a nice stash of black
 construction paper...

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin




Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-28 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you cannot tell the difference between terrorists and
  freedom fighters, you got shit for brains.
 
  The revolutionaries killed british soldiers in America.  They
  did not go to england and kill english children.
 
 Why is where they were killed important? If you kill people on your land
 it's ok, kill them on their land it's not?
 
 Then the Allies were 'terrorist' when they entered German territory in
 WWII? I hardly think so.

Let's try to spell this out so even you can understand it, Jim. The
distinction is between killing combatants and killing noncombatants. Do
you get that? Location is incidental. Motive is irrelevant to the
definition. 

American revolutionaries killed British soldiers and their unfortunate
Hessian co-belligerents, not office workers in London (or Boston for
that matter). That's what makes them something other than terrorists.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-26 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:

 Why? The Americans were most certainly terrorist/revolutionaries/freedom
 fighters/etc.

Again, you make no distinction between freedom fighters and terrorists,
which is very sad because there is a rather important difference. Being
incapable of making the distinction, you are condemned to hate everybody
who fights.

  Arms should indeed be taken up against
  those who wantonly murder the innocent.
 
 And if a few innocent get caught in the wrath of your vengeance...well,
 God's on our side, right?

Right is certainly on our side. I'm an atheist, so I have no concern for
God's opinions.

Marc de Piolenc
Philippines 
  --
 
 
  The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
 
  Edmund Burke (1784)
 
The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
 

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin





Re: CDR: [psychohistory] Two mistakes (fwd)

2001-10-26 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

 Jim Choate wrote:
 
 Nations with imperial aspirations, invariably, throughout History
 change their conscript based army in favor of an army of paid
 soldiers. Today euphimisticaly called 'profesional' soldiers, but know
 also as mercenaries and soldiers of fortune in the not-so-distant
 past. (Note: Ligustically a soldier is 'someone-who-is-SOLD'
 anyway).

Psst - your ignorance is showing! The French term soldier refers to a
warrior who is paid - solde means pay - as contrasted originally with
feudal levies, who were not. Nowadays the distinction is meaningless
because even conscripts are paid at regular rates, so we say
professional soldier for a volunteer and conscript for a short-term
draftee. 

A . Salary, by the way, refers to a portion of the pay of the Roman
legionaire, which was paid in salt.

 Now this trend is well documented in past history and definately has
 its own Psychohistorical significance as it's one of the notable
 'landmarks' of an Imperium (ie. a nation/state pursuing
 local/regional/global hegemony - dominance).

The US eliminates involuntary military servitude, and you call it
imperialism. It develops a career army, and you call it mercenary. I
know this won't make any impression on you, but do try to consider the
obvious military advantages of having continuity in training, experience
and DISCIPLINE. I would just add that by your criterion, Canada must be
planning to take over the world because they have always had a
professional military in all services!

 Of course profesional soldiers are in for the money and
 generally do not look forward to a glorious death in Afganistan,

Have you ever actually talked to a US soldier? I don't think anybody
looks forward to death in combat, but if you think our military is
intimidated by the likes of OBL or the Taliban, you obviously don't know
much about the current state of morale in the US military. And your
ignorance shows again when you say professional soldiers are in it for
the money - you contradict yourself. How much would it cost to convince
YOU to put your life on the line? There probably isn't enough money in
the world for that, because you are a moral coward, and such people tend
to be physical cowards as well. Fortunately, your kind is the exception,
something you are naturally incapable of perceiving from your
perspective.

Marc de Piolenc





Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-26 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



David Honig wrote:
 
 At 12:42 PM 10/25/01 +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
 Jim Choate wrote:

   We need to send a message that armed propaganda is not an acceptable
   form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
 
  Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this
  little meme very far.
 
 ..and your point is...?
 
 Obvious to americans ---that sometimes arms *should* be taken up.

No argument there - I just have a lot of trouble equating terrorism and
the American war of independence. Arms should indeed be taken up against
those who wantonly murder the innocent.

Marc de Piolenc


 
 
 
 

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin





Re: CDR: 'Privacy Council' in defense of M$

2001-10-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Peter Capelli wrote:

 If you start at zero, 50% is only 50 cents, Ponemon said.

Where did he learn math, I wonder?

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:

 
  We need to send a message that armed propaganda is not an acceptable
  form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
 
 Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this
 little meme very far.

..and your point is...?

Marc de Piolenc





Re: CDR: [psychohistory] A Terrorist's Nursery (fwd)

2001-10-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:


 But Nato's escape clause won't work this time round. For as the Afghan
 refugees turn up in their thousands at the border, it is palpably evident
 that they are fleeing not the Taliban but our bombs and missiles. The
 Taliban is not ethnically cleansing its own Pashtun population. The refugees
 speak vividly of their fear and terror as our bombs fall on their cities.
 These people are terrified of our war on terror'', victims as innocent as
 those who were slaughtered in the World Trade Centre on 11 September. So
 where do we stop?

Let's see - terrorism has to be accepted because it only kills our
children on purpose; retaliation is evil because it sometimes kills
theirs by accident. If we accept the moral equivalence of terror and
retaliation, the question is not where do we stop? but where do we
begin?

The right of self-defense is as fundamental as the right to life itself.
Pacifists may comfort themselves with the fuzzy notion that meeting bin
Laden's demands (and presumably the demands of every other two-bit
killer with enough cash to buy a Kalashnikov and some plastique) will
free us of the threat of terrorism; unfortunately, I have studied terror
for 25 years and know better, so that comfort is denied me. 

The only real alternatives are (1) retaliate against the attackers, no
matter who they are or where they lurk, or (2) accept that anybody with
a grudge against people who are happier than he is has the prerogative
of taking life with impunity.

Marc de Piolenc
Philippines





Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-24 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc



Jim Choate wrote:
 
 On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
 
  Elementary - fair is whatever the parties in interest agree to. Period.
 
 'agree' is synonymous with 'free' in this case. All you're doing is
 playing word games and hand waving.
 
 What does it mean to 'agree'? 

You are the only one here who seems to have a problem with the meaning
of that word.

Marc de Piolenc




Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )

2001-10-24 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

David Honig wrote:

 Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate
 such antipathy.

And if you believe that WTC had anything to do with US foreign policy,
or that we would cease being targets if we e.g. dropped suppport for
Israel, you are living in a dream world and have bought the
terrorists' propaganda.

We need to send a message that armed propaganda is not an acceptable
form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.


Marc de Piolenc
Philippines




Re: CDR: Your papers please

2001-10-18 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Sounds like we need to be dictating into cellphones, with remote
recording!

Marc de Piolenc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When the Terry stop escalated, and I was ordered to follow the officer for
 more questioning, I asked him, while holding out the recorder for the
 answer, whether I was under arrest.  Answer: no.  Followed by Am I free
 to go?.  Answer no.  Sir, I believe these two conditions are mutually
 exclusive: either I am under arrest, or I am free to go.  As I have things
 to do, I need to know which it is, so that I may either go do them, or
 call my attorney to join us.
 
 My reward was a crushed microcassette recorder, a missing cassette (he
 claimed the recorder was both damaged and empty at the time he first
 encountered it), and an arrest (and conviction no less!).




Re: CDR: Re: Dealing with Islamic terrorists, and with Afghanistan

2001-10-05 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

YOu need to understand that terrorism has its own ideology, which has
nothing to do with whatever the terrorist du jour espouses publicly. All
that the actions proposed below would do is infuriate REAL Muslims, who
are not yet our enemies and need not be.

Marc de Piolenc 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shortly after 911 I suggested that the US publicize video clips of its
 forces dipping bullets in pig's blood and painting pigblood deathheads
 on cruise missiles and preparing boxcar-sized piggery and slaughterhouse
 runoff aerosol bombs. Rumors of pork-only meals in US prison camps. The
 whole dying unclean thing...
 
 It may or may not work - I don't know how serious these guys are about
 their religion. Should the leaders be more worldly they might struggle
 with their texts to devise a palatable philosophical out for their field
 soldiers.