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In a lengthy interview with The Washington Diplomat, Joseph said the HERO Act—sponsored in the House by Rep.
Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.)—would create 100,000 to 150,000 jobs in Haiti’s once vibrant manufacturing sector.

“From 80,000 jobs at one time, the manufacturing sector has dwindled to 25,000 jobs,” Joseph says.
“My priority is to help get this HERO Act passed in Congress in order to entice U.S. companies to come back to
Haiti, especially in textiles. We think it would be a good thing, especially when China is gobbling up the whole
market.”

The ambassador suggests that “passage of this act would go a long way to alleviate the problem of would-be
economic refugees who desperately try to make it to Florida in search of a better life. Obviously, HERO will also
benefit the United States, which won’t need to spend valuable resources in its interdiction of boat people, and in
the incarceration of those who manage to get through the Coast Guard net. It will also mean less foreign aid going
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in a country that has suffered from anarchy ever since the overthrow of Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier in 1986.


“I think 7,000 is not enough,” the ambassador says. “We need 12,000 to 15,000 troops, and they should be
concentrated in Port-au-Prince, because the rest of the country is now quiet.”
Joseph, 74, is Haiti’s first full-fledged ambassador in Washington since 1997. He represents the interim prime
minister, Gerard Latortue, who took over following the February 2004 ouster of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
National elections to replace the current transitional government in Port-au-Prince are scheduled for Dec. 11, with
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following a violent struggle against French colonizers.
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years of poverty and bloodshed won’t be erased overnight.
He was born in 1931 in the Dominican town of San Pedro de Macoris, which is famous for producing more professional
baseball players than anywhere else on earth.

“My father left Haiti when he was 17, my mother when she was 20,” Joseph recalls. “I spent the first seven years of
my life in the Dominican Republic. Spanish was my first language.”
Like his father, a Baptist minister, Joseph devoted much of his life to religious studies. He attended the Moody
Bible Institute in Chicago, and in 1960 translated the New Testament and psalms into Haitian Creole under the
auspices of the American Bible Society.

Joseph later spent 19 years in New York under a death sentence imposed in absentia by the murderous regime of
Francois “Papa Doc” Duvalier, who was enraged by his broadcasts and writings against the dictatorship. During
that time, Joseph got a job as a financial reporter for the Wall Street Journal. From 1970 to 1984, he covered
everything from the Manville asbestos trials to the advent of the Sony Walkman.
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Haiti L’Observateur.

According to a recent column in the New York Sun, “After the Duvaliers were ousted, Mr. Joseph served as charge
d’affaires in Washington, but in 1991 he returned to the paper in Brooklyn. Although Mr. Joseph recognized the
work against the Duvaliers of Jean-Bertand Aristide, he issued early warnings against Mr. Aristide’s penchant for
dictatorship. In the past two years, he kept readers of both the Observateur and the Sun well ahead of the curve of
Mr. Aristide’s descent.”
Joseph returned as charge d’affaires of the Haitian Embassy in April 2004, and officially became ambassador in
August 2005.

“When I presented my credentials, I had to bring in the letter of recall of the last ambassador, Jean Casimir,
who left here in 1997,” he says. “There had been no Haitian ambassador for eight years, which means the former
government didn’t give the United States the recognition it deserves. Mind you, this is the most powerful nation
on earth, the biggest neighbor of Haiti, the one that did more to help the former government return to power than
anyone else, and we didn’t even have diplomatic representation at the level of ambassador.”
In his new capacity, Joseph oversees 40 staffers. The Haitian Embassy, fronting Massachusetts Avenue, operates on
a monthly budget of $150,000, the bulk of that money coming from passport and visa fees. It maintains close ties
with the Haitian-American community, estimated at 1.5 million.
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opening

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[martin f krafft]

also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.16.1924 +0200]:
> Interesting... this is not how I remembered it.

... I had been subscribed to the moderated minder.net list in the
past... this explains :)

Again, sorry, also for the noise.

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[martin f krafft]

also sprach J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.16.1627 +0200]:
> > and developments in privacy issues and Internet technology, not
> > to learn about all kinds of tangential announcements.
> 
> Then you are in the wrong fucking place buddy.  This is cpunks:
> Information wants to be free and all that.  Anything is postable,
> nothing turned away, even trolls like you are welcome additions.

Interesting... this is not how I remembered it.

Anyway, I apologise, and I apologise to Stephen Wolfram for the
private message sent along those lines.

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[martin f krafft]

> This is the sixth release candidate for the 0.1.0.x series. This is an

Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care
about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of
Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long?

Note that I am not trying to be a bitch or troll, but I am on this
mailing list to follow the hacker culture and developments in
privacy issues and Internet technology, not to learn about all kinds
of tangential announcements.

Could someone bring me up to speed, please?

This is not flamebait. Really not.

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[Douglas F. Calvert]

On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 16:25, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Not that there is much discussion, the cyherpunk meme doesn't seem
> to draw fresh blood too effectively. I'm seeing similiar trends
> across virtually all my mailing lists, so I presume it's the medium
> itself that it's in decline.

The following lists thrive:
debian-devel, NANOG, Python-users, linux-kernel, obsd-misc, full-disclosure

The cypherpunk meme seems to be alive in well but split up across:
cpunks,[EMAIL PROTECTED], gnupg-{users,devel},mix{master,minion}

There are a lot of good mailing lists currently. I think the decline
that you are seeing is a fall of the big boys and an increase in B-list
mailing lists. There seems to be a good deal of specialization going on
among the mailing lists. Maybe the politics of cpunks turned some people
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the tech sent some people to god only knows
where you can discuss politics in a decent manner on the net. 


> Both IRC and IM are of course even worse content killers than email.

WTF? Whenever new forms of technology come out established groups always
complain about the mass amateurization of publishing and downfall of
intelligence/literary skills/etc. It has happened from gutenberg up to
the blogs and I have never seen a good defense of it. Does dinner table
conversation kill content? I do not understand why a decrease in
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Re: Decline of the Cypherpunks list...Part 19

[Douglas F. Calvert]

Hello,
 I am 23 years old and I am quite proud to be on cpunks. I have been on
and off cpunks since i was sixteen, but I have never been active. I run
a mixminion remailer, get excited at key signings, and I was extremely
excited when I read about the recent development with mental poker that
was mentioned on boingboing. I do not have a bald head, tattoos or
piercings. I am decidely not libertarian, I did not realize that was a
requirement for being a cpunk:) Libertarians do not have a monopoly on
the belief in autonomous individuals and or civil liberties. I think
that the supposed downfall of cpunks has to do with two big issues, none
of which have to do with something radically different about my
generation. No offense, Mr. May but you sound like a stodgy old man
complaining about "the kids these days." You are not the first and not
the last person that has reached middle age and decided that the kids
these days are different. I think that cpunks has dropped in popularity
because of two things:

1. There is not a lot to come here for. 
A quick perusal of the messages that I have archived since Oct 12, 2002
does not yeild a great number of goodies. Despite what you think mailing
lists are still very popular with us "crazy linux kidz" (debian-devel is
quite busy and informative) these days. A large amount of my internet
time is spent reading "personal diaries" but an equal if not greater
time is spent reading mailing lists. I have found that the blogs are
good for announcements where as the mailing lists are for discussion. I
think that a lot of the old cpunks content has moved to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the various p2p lists. I think that a lot
of the social talk has moved elsewhere because it appears to be a more
hospitable environment, see #2.   

2. This is not a friendly/fun place. 
I don't mind RTFM but I have seen a number of responses on this list
that made me feel like the new middle class italian guy at the rich
WASPy old boys golf club. With all due respect your post about not
forwarding the initial message to other list was telling (and in all
caps). Why not forward a good cpunks message to other places? I thought
we were meant to share? 

I do not think cpunks is dead, I agree that the number of forwards here
that are merely reprints from other lists or daily blogs is obnoxious.
However, I thought that you had a lot of good points in your reply about
the lessig/declan argument (which has continued on lessig's blog if you
care) and it is posts like your lessig post that I am still subscribed.
In light of that it seems crazy to limit who gets to see that message.
Instead of keeping it in the secret clubhouse it seems that it would be
beneficial for cpunks to let others know that good discussions still
happen here. Filters coming in is a great idea, but filtering what
leaves here sounds moronic.

Thank you for your time. I hope that I have not offended you, I have
respected you for some time now. 


As I said I am 23 so take the following discussion about YaF with a
grain of salt. 

On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 22:55, Tim May wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2003, at 7:15 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> >
> >> And, as many have noted, very few of the "kids" today are
> >> libertarians (either small L or large L).
> >
> > When you were a teenager, everyone thought that Ho Chi Minh was
> > the greatest, had a picture of Che Guevera on their wall, and
> > thought the Soviet Union was going to win.
> 
> Nonsense. "Everyone" did not think this. Far from it. YAF was going 
> strong back then.

I have never read or heard that Young Americans for Freedom, or the John
Birchers were "strong" during the sixties. From what I have read and
heard there were definitely some right wing activist groups but they
were not strong compared to the leftist groups. The existence of a
"strong" right wing activist camp seems to go directly against the
notion of the silent majority and contradicts the commonly held belief
that there was a strong politicization of the population during the 60s.

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also sprach Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.09.1931 +0200]:
> What is wrong which just exchanging the keys for ad hoc mode? You could
cache
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... like SSH, huh?

> We're really looking for blanket rollout of a low-security
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also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.09.2316 +0200]:
> PS: please don't CC me on mailing lists...

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also sprach Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.09.1129 +0200]:
> Are there technical reasons for this situation? If yes, what is
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A curious idea that I've been paying some attention to for a while.
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> 
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> 

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Re: The Register - eBay to Fees: come and get what you want (fwd)

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also sprach Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.09.20.1638 +0200]:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32936.html

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Re: paradoxes of randomness

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Sarad AV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.16.1321 +0200]:
> f(x)=2x for all x=0,1,2,... ;
> f(x)=2x+1 for all x=0,1,2,...;

You need an extra bit to store which of the two is used. Otherwise,

> f(x)=2x
> 
> =2*5
> =10for x=5;
> 
> Decimal number 5 can be represented in binary as 101.

... you can't decompress five as you don't know if it's 10 or 11.

and it's exactly this 2^0 bit which your compression kicks off. you
need it, can't do without.

[...]

> If the input programmes are picked truely randomly,then I know 16
> of the programs will halt(i.e 50% of the programs halt).

Look at it differently: you have a 50% chance of guessing whether
a given program from the sack will halt or not. This sheds some
different light onto the issue, doesn't it?

I raise a different question: are there more programs that halt than
programs that don't halt, or the other way around, or are they
equal in number?

> So where is the redundancy in different instances of
> the halting problem? I don't see any redundancy.

It's simple, if I am correct. The redundancy simply makes you care
less about the specific instance you are looking at.

> To represent 32 coins-i need 5 bits of information.
> Since the experiment is truely random-i know half of
> them will be heads,so in this case using 5 bits of
> information,i can determine all the coins that are
> heads and that are tails.

Same deal, unless you are counting pairs, in which case you cannot
distinguish between the members of a pair. You need an extra bit to
tell a head from a tail.

> So-the question is what is the minimum number of bits
> or entropy required to determine which all coins are
> heads and which all coins are tails,is it 5 bits or 6
> bits of information?

With 5 bits, you can count to 31, so you need 6.

Just my two tails.

-- 
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[MBEKI .F. GROTE]

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL & URGENT.
I am Mr, MBEKI.F.GROTE a native of Cape Town in South Africa and I am an Executive 
Accountant with the South Africa MINISTRY OF MINERAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY First and 
foremost, I apologized using this medium to reach you for a transaction/business of 
this magnitude, but this is due to Confidentiality and prompt access reposed on this 
medium. 
I have decided to seek a confidential co-operation with you in the execution of the 
deal described Here under for the benefit of all parties and hope you will keep it as 
a top secret because of the nature of this transaction.
Within the Department of Mining & Natural Resources where I work as an Executive 
Accountant and with the cooperation of four other top officials, we have in our 
possession as overdue payment bills totaling Twenty - One Million, Five Hundred 
Thousand U.S.Dollars($21,500,000.) which we want to transfer abroad with the 
assistance and cooperation of a foreign company/individual to receive the said fund on 
our behalf or a reliable foreign non-company account to receive such funds. More so, 
we are handicapped in the circumstances, as the South Africa Civil Service Code of 
Conduct does not allow us to operate offshore account hence your importance in the 
whole transaction.
This amount $21.5m represents the balance of the total contract value executed on 
behalf of my Department by a foreign contracting firm, which we the officials 
over-invoiced deliberately. Though the actual contract cost have been paid to the 
original contractor,leaving the balance in the Tune of the said amount which we have 
in principles gotten approval to remit by Key tested Telegraphic Transfer (K.T.T) to 
any foreign bank account you will provide by filing in an application through the 
Justice Ministry here in South Africa for the transfer of rights and privileges of the 
former contractor to you.
I have the authority of my partners involved to propose that should you be willing to 
assist us in the transaction, your share of the sum will be 25% of the $21.5 million, 
70% for us and 5% for taxation and miscellaneous expenses. The business itself is 100% 
safe, on your part provided you treat it with utmost secrecy and confidentiality. Also 
your area of specialization is not a hindrance to the successful execution of this 
transaction. I have reposed my confidence in you and hope that you will not disappoint 
me. 
Endeavor to contact me immediately my e-mail address whether or not you are interested 
in this deal. If you are not, it will enable me scout for another foreign partner to 
carry out this transaction I want to assure you that my partners and myself are in a 
position to make the payment of this claim possible provided you can give us a very 
strong Assurance and guarantee that our share will be secured and please remember to 
treat this matter as very confidential matter, because we will not comprehend with any 
form of exposure as we are still in active Government Service and remember once again 
that time is of the essence in this business.
I wait in anticipation of your fullest co-operation.
Please, send your reply to this e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yours faithfully,
MBEKI .F. GROTE

URGENT & CONFIDENTIAL.

[DR. FRANK F. BAMAWO]

DR.FRANK.F.BAMAWO
FOREIGN LIAISON OFFICE
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC)
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.
E-MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


   URGENT BUSINESS 
PROPOSAL.
Dear Sir,
I am an accountant with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and, also a 
member of the Contract Review committee. Presently, I'm  on a special diplomatic duty 
in the Nigeria foreign office in Amsterdam,the Netherlands.  A contract for the 
construction and laying of oil pipelines network from Warri-Port-Harcourt-Kaduna.has 
been awarded to a local firm and,   this contract was over invoiced to the tune of 
Nine Million,Six Hundred Thousand United State Dollars (US$9. 6Million).

The over invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project, and now the 
local contractor have been fully paid but, the over invoiced amount is still floating 
in one of the offshore banks  of Central Bank of Nigeria in Canada .We now desire to 
transfer this money which is presently in a suspense account of the Central Bank of 
Nigeria (CBN) into any overseas account which we expect you to provide for us, if you 
are capable and able.
For providing, the account where we shall remit the money,you will be entitled to 20% 
of the money,70% will be for myself and my partners,the remaining 10% will be set 
aside to settle all expenses incurred by both parties.
I would require the following;
1.Bank name and Address
2.Name of Beneficiary
3 Company Name and Address
4. Account Number.
5. Confidential Telephone  and Fax number of Beneficiary.

The above information would be used to make formal applications to the appropriate 
government parastatals such as the Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF), Nigerian 
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)   as a 
matter of procedure for the release of the money and onward transfer to the nominated 
account you would provide. In as much as , we are doing a deal, we would like to 
comply with all laid down procedures for transfer and contract of this nature. It does 
not matter whether or not your company did this contract or not. The assumption is 
that your company was awarded the major contract and subcontracted it out to the local 
company. We have strong and reliable connections and contacts at the Apex Bank and the 
Federal Ministry of Finance All we need is a  trust worthy foreign partner to assist 
us in this mutual/beneficial deal.

Therefore, when the business is successfully concluded,we shall through our same 
connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries 
for 100%security.We are civil servants and we do not want this opportunity to miss us, 
as opportunity  loss can never be regained
Please contact me immediately through my e-mail address,whether or not you are 
interested in this deal. If you are not,it will enable me scout for another foreign 
partner to carry out this deal.But where you are interested, send the required 
document aforementioned herein without delay,as time is of great essence in this deal.
I await your anticipated co-operation and response.
Best Regards
DR.FRANK BAMAWO.  

URGENT & CONFIDENTIAL.

[DR. FRANK F. BAMAWO]

DR.FRANK.F.BAMAWO
FOREIGN LIAISON OFFICE
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC)
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.
E-MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


   URGENT BUSINESS 
PROPOSAL.
Dear Sir,
I am an accountant with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and, also a 
member of the Contract Review committee. Presently, I'm  on a special diplomatic duty 
in the Nigeria foreign office in Amsterdam,the Netherlands.  A contract for the 
construction and laying of oil pipelines network from Warri-Port-Harcourt-Kaduna.has 
been awarded to a local firm and,   this contract was over invoiced to the tune of 
Nine Million,Six Hundred Thousand United State Dollars (US$9. 6Million).

The over invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project, and now the 
local contractor have been fully paid but, the over invoiced amount is still floating 
in one of the offshore banks  of Central Bank of Nigeria in Canada .We now desire to 
transfer this money which is presently in a suspense account of the Central Bank of 
Nigeria (CBN) into any overseas account which we expect you to provide for us, if you 
are capable and able.
For providing, the account where we shall remit the money,you will be entitled to 20% 
of the money,70% will be for myself and my partners,the remaining 10% will be set 
aside to settle all expenses incurred by both parties.
I would require the following;
1.Bank name and Address
2.Name of Beneficiary
3 Company Name and Address
4. Account Number.
5. Confidential Telephone  and Fax number of Beneficiary.

The above information would be used to make formal applications to the appropriate 
government parastatals such as the Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF), Nigerian 
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)   as a 
matter of procedure for the release of the money and onward transfer to the nominated 
account you would provide. In as much as , we are doing a deal, we would like to 
comply with all laid down procedures for transfer and contract of this nature. It does 
not matter whether or not your company did this contract or not. The assumption is 
that your company was awarded the major contract and subcontracted it out to the local 
company. We have strong and reliable connections and contacts at the Apex Bank and the 
Federal Ministry of Finance All we need is a  trust worthy foreign partner to assist 
us in this mutual/beneficial deal.

Therefore, when the business is successfully concluded,we shall through our same 
connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries 
for 100%security.We are civil servants and we do not want this opportunity to miss us, 
as opportunity  loss can never be regained
Please contact me immediately through my e-mail address,whether or not you are 
interested in this deal. If you are not,it will enable me scout for another foreign 
partner to carry out this deal.But where you are interested, send the required 
document aforementioned herein without delay,as time is of great essence in this deal.
I await your anticipated co-operation and response.
Best Regards
DR.FRANK BAMAWO.  

URGENT & CONFIDENTIAL.

[DR. FRANK F. BAMAWO]

DR.FRANK.F.BAMAWO
FOREIGN LIAISON OFFICE
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC)
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.
E-MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



   URGENT BUSINESS 
PROPOSAL.
Dear Sir,
I am an accountant with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and, also a 
member of the Contract Review committee. Presently, I'm  on a special diplomatic duty 
in the Nigeria foreign office in Amsterdam,the Netherlands.  A contract for the 
construction and laying of oil pipelines network from Warri-Port-Harcourt-Kaduna.has 
been awarded to a local firm and,   this contract was over invoiced to the tune of 
Nine Million,Six Hundred Thousand United State Dollars (US$9. 6Million).

The over invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project, and now the 
local contractor have been fully paid but, the over invoiced amount is still floating 
in one of the offshore banks  of Central Bank of Nigeria in Canada .We now desire to 
transfer this money which is presently in a suspense account of the Central Bank of 
Nigeria (CBN) into any overseas account which we expect you to provide for us, if you 
are capable and able.
For providing, the account where we shall remit the money,you will be entitled to 20% 
of the money,70% will be for myself and my partners,the remaining 10% will be set 
aside to settle all expenses incurred by both parties.
I would require the following;

1.Bank name and Address
2.Name of Beneficiary
3 Company Name and Address
4. Account Number.
5. Confidential Telephone  and Fax number of Beneficiary.

 The above information would be used to make formal applications to the appropriate 
government parastatals such as the Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF), Nigerian 
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)   as a 
matter of procedure for the release of the money and onward transfer to the nominated 
account you would provide. In as much as , we are doing a deal, we would like to 
comply with all laid down procedures for transfer and contract of this nature. It does 
not matter whether or not your company did this contract or not. The assumption is 
that your company was awarded the major contract and subcontracted it out to the local 
company. We have strong and reliable connections and contacts at the Apex Bank and the 
Federal Ministry of Finance All we need is a  trust worthy foreign partner to assist 
us in this mutual/beneficial deal.

Therefore, when the business is successfully concluded,we shall through our same 
connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries 
for 100%security.We are civil servants and we do not want this opportunity to miss us, 
as opportunity  loss can never be regained
Please contact me immediately through my e-mail address,whether or not you are 
interested in this deal. If you are not,it will enable me scout for another foreign 
partner to carry out this deal.But where you are interested, send the required 
document aforementioned herein without delay,as time is of great essence in this deal.

I await your anticipated co-operation and response.

Best Regards

DR.FRANK BAMAWO.

  

DO RESPOND PLEASE.

[DR. FRANK F. BAMAWO]

DR.FRANK.F.BAMAWO
FOREIGN LIAISON OFFICE
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC)
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.



   URGENT BUSINESS 
PROPOSAL.
 Dear sir,
I am an accountant with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and, also a 
member of the Contract Review committee. Presently, I'm  on a special diplomatic duty 
in the Nigeria foreign office in Amsterdam,the Netherlands.  A contract for the 
construction and laying of oil pipelines network from Warri-Port-Harcourt-Kaduna.has 
been awarded to a local firm and,   this contract was over invoiced to the tune of 
Nine Million,Six Hundred Thousand United State Dollars (US$9. 6Million).

The over invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project, and now the 
local contractor have been fully paid but, the over invoiced amount is still floating 
in one of the offshore banks  of Central Bank of Nigeria in Canada .We now desire to 
transfer this money which is presently in a suspense account of the Central Bank of 
Nigeria (CBN) into any overseas account which we expect you to provide for us, if you 
are capable and able.
For providing, the account where we shall remit the money,you will be entitled to 20% 
of the money,70% will be for myself and my partners,the remaining 10% will be set 
aside to settle all expenses incurred by both parties.
I would require the following;

1.Bank name and Address
2.Name of Beneficiary
3 Company Name and Address
4. Account Number.
5. Confidential Telephone  and Fax number of Beneficiary.

 The above information would be used to make formal applications to the appropriate 
government parastatals such as the Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF), Nigerian 
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)   as a 
matter of procedure for the release of the money and onward transfer to the nominated 
account you would provide. In as much as , we are doing a deal, we would like to 
comply with all laid down procedures for transfer and contract of this nature. It does 
not matter whether or not your company did this contract or not. The assumption is 
that your company was awarded the major contract and subcontracted it out to the local 
company. We have strong and reliable connections and contacts at the Apex Bank and the 
Federal Ministry of Finance All we need is a  trust worthy foreign partner to assist 
us in this mutual/beneficial deal.

Therefore, when the business is successfully concluded,we shall through our same 
connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries 
for 100%security.We are civil servants and we do not want this opportunity to miss us, 
as opportunity  loss can never be regained
Please contact me immediately through my above telephone or e-mail address,whether or 
not you are interested in this deal. If you are not,it will enable me scout for 
another foreign partner to carry out this deal.But where you are interested, send the 
required document aforementioned herein without delay,as time is of great essence in 
this deal.

I await your anticipated co-operation and response.

Best Regards

DR.FRANK BAMAWO.

  

PLEASE RESPOND.

[DR.FRANK F. BAMAWO.]

DR.FRANK.F.BAMAWO
FOREIGN LIAISON OFFICE
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC)
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.

   URGENT BUSINESS 
PROPOSAL.
 Dear sir,
I am an accountant with the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and, also a 
member of the Contract Review committee. Presently, I'm  on a special diplomatic duty 
in the Nigeria foreign office in Amsterdam,the Netherlands.  A contract for the 
construction and laying of oil pipelines network from Warri-Port-Harcourt-Kaduna.has 
been awarded to a local firm and,   this contract was over invoiced to the tune of 
Nine Million,Six Hundred Thousand United State Dollars (US$9. 6Million).

The over invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project, and now the 
local contractor have been fully paid but, the over invoiced amount is still floating 
in one of the offshore banks  of Central Bank of Nigeria in Canada .We now desire to 
transfer this money which is presently in a suspense account of the Central Bank of 
Nigeria (CBN) into any overseas account which we expect you to provide for us, if you 
are capable and able.
For providing, the account where we shall remit the money,you will be entitled to 20% 
of the money,70% will be for myself and my partners,the remaining 10% will be set 
aside to settle all expenses incurred by both parties.
I would require the following;
1.Bank name and Address
2.Name of Beneficiary
3 Company Name and Address
4. Account Number.
5. Confidential Telephone  and Fax number of Beneficiary.

 The above information would be used to make formal applications to the appropriate 
government parastatals such as the Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF), Nigerian 
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)   as a 
matter of procedure for the release of the money and onward transfer to the nominated 
account you would provide. In as much as , we are doing a deal, we would like to 
comply with all laid down procedures for transfer and contract of this nature. It does 
not matter whether or not your company did this contract or not. The assumption is 
that your company was awarded the major contract and subcontracted it out to the local 
company. We have strong and reliable connections and contacts at the Apex Bank and the 
Federal Ministry of Finance All we need is a  trust worthy foreign partner to assist 
us in this mutual/beneficial deal.

Therefore, when the business is successfully concluded,we shall through our same 
connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries 
for 100%security.We are civil servants and we do not want this opportunity to miss us, 
as opportunity  loss can never be regained
Please contact me immediately through my above telephone or e-mail address,whether or 
not you are interested in this deal. If you are not,it will enable me scout for 
another foreign partner to carry out this deal.But where you are interested, send the 
required document aforementioned herein without delay,as time is of great essence in 
this deal.
I await your anticipated co-operation and response.
Best Regards
DR.FRANK BAMAWO.  

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*

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Re: CDR: Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for cheaper hosting or domain names?

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Given that you are a Web hosting company, I am surprised to see no URL
for further information.

Marc de Piolenc

> Look at This wrote:
> 
> Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for
> cheaper hosting or domain names?
> 
> We are a UK based company who would like to offer you our considerable
> experience and expertise in the field of website design, eCommerce,
> web hosting, domain name facilities and search engine positioning.

Re: CDR: Tax consequences of becoming a US citizen.

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Basically, none. A US resident is taxed just like a citizen. In fact,
even if you are not a green card holder, but have a "substantial
presence" in the US, you are still taxed like a citizen.

Marc de Piolenc

An Metet wrote:
> 
> What are the tax implications of a US resident green card holder, with substantial 
>assets both in his original nation and in the US, of becoming a US citizen?

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Re: sources on steganography

[Douglas F. Calvert]

On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 09:41, Hector Rosario wrote:
> Why would I be interested in "fool[ing] [you]." All I asked was for some
> help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a
> hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what
> drives you, then I suggest that you work on that.
>

Dude relax. He was making a joke. If you don't get the joke there are
definitely going to be some problems with you writing a dissertation on
stego.
Here is a suggestion for you, don't bite the hand that feeds you.


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Earn from $300 to over $900 per day!!!

[Tom F]

EARN OVER $900 PER DAY!
HELPING THE US GOVT. PROCESS HUD/FHA REFUNDS

You could be a processor helping the Federal Govt. assist people who have
refunds coming back under MIP paid policies.

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Re: CDR: 'Enigma' reviewed in Salon.

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Ultra originated in Poland, not Britain. The wartime decryption work was
of course carried out in Britain, but without the prewar "seed" work of
the Poles it would probably have been futile.

Marc de Piolenc

matthew X wrote:
> 
> It's not the great movie yet to
> be made on the subject, but I'm sure I'm not the only one grateful to the
> makers of "Enigma" for placing the credit for breaking the German code back
> it belongs: with the British. After the cultural theft perpetrated two
> years ago by "U-571," this modest restoration feels like an act of decency.

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Re: CDR: Re: overcoming ecash deployment problems (Re: all about transferable off-line ecash)

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

"A. Melon" wrote:
> 
> Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 06:59  AM, Mike Rosing wrote:
> > > But the reason we have AC today is because Tesla requested no
> > > royalties on his motor/generator.  Something for Brands to think
> > > about.
> >
> > No, we have AC because AC works better than DC in home wiring
> > situations.
> 
> Hmmm.  I always thought the reason we went with AC was because at the
> time, DC power couldn't cut it.  They couldn't find any way to reliably
> transfer DC power more than a half mile or so from the power plant, and
> when trying to demonstrate it in NYC couldn't even get DC power all the
> way up a multi-story building.

You're saying the same thing. AC works for transmission over long
distances because it can be cheaply stepped up in voltage for
transmission to minimize losses, then stepped down again for safe
domestic use. We now have machinery that does that fairly cheaply for
DC, but it's still more expensive than a simple transformer with the
same capacity. Long range transmission line are now often high-voltage
DC, to take advantage of higher average power at a given peak voltage;
it is now possible to efficiently reconvert to AC at the end. In
Edison's day that was not so. If his commutated DC generators generated
32 volts (and high-voltage DC generators would have been very difficult
to build in those days), that was the transmission voltage, and you had
to have a powerplant on every block.

What held up AC as a distribution format was the absence of practical AC
motors - Tesla broke that logjam, asking little in return, and the rest
is history.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: Among the Bourgeoisophobes

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Gil Hamilton wrote:
> 
> F. Marc de Piolenc forwards:
> 
> >Among the Bourgeoisophobes
> >Why  the  Europeans and Arabs, each in their own way, hate America and
> >Israel.
> >
> >http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/102gwtnf.asp
> 
> It may be true that they hate freedom in some
> narrow sense, but it misses the point: what they really hate is the
> godless, arrogant, materialistic, undeserved (etc. from the article)
> appearance communicated by the exports of our culture.  It is this
> hatred of the perception of our culture that is misinterpreted (by
> shallow and jingoistic analysts on *our* side) as "they just hate our
> freedom."

It would be more on target to say that they hate the *consequences" of
freedom, but I like the simpler formulation better. The absence of fear
and awe (arrogance), the rejection of superstition (godlessness),
confidence, active pursuit of gain - all are outgrowths not merely of
freedom, which we have in only a relative sense - but of the
*expectation* of freedom and the responsibility that goes with it.

> Which leads me to a couple of other comments.  The additional security
> restrictions imposed on Americans since 9/11 clearly play right into
> their hands.

So very true...and very sad. As long as we're putting untrained but
heavily armed National Guardsmen in airports and finding new ways to spy
on each other, Bin Laden has won no matter what happens to him
personally.

> Another point well made here is the notion that American left-wing
> intellectuals and politicians, as well as right-wing fundamentalists
> and their politicians, all fall into this same boat. 

A point made by Ayn Rand many years ago, but less entertainingly.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You've been listening to Shrub to much.   What makes you think this is about
> hating freedom?  Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking
> business???

I really don't give a fig about the opinions of the current resident of
the White House. I've been studying terror and its practitioners for
about 25 years and I know their mentality.

I'm sorry you've bought the terrorist line that it's all about US
support for Israel. I know better. We could withdraw from the Middle
East tomorrow, and all that would change would be the excuse.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

It's very important to distinguish propaganda from fact. It is indeed
convenient to lable people you don't like "terrorist" - the Germans did
that with the French resistance - but fortunately there are generally
accepted definitions of that term against which propaganda labels can be
tested, if you care to...

Terrorism has nothing to do with irregular warfare, or what you call
"not playing fair." It concerns chiefly the choice of target and the
ultimate result desired. 

A warrior - whether guerrillero, résistant or regular - attacks his
adversary directly and seeks to damage him, preferably enough to take
him out of action. 

A terrorist attacks a target conveniently designated by him as SYMBOLIC
of his chosen adversary; the target is preferably unsuspecting and
undefended. The ultimate purpose is to frighten his adversary, or
somebody with influence on that adversary, into harming himself. In the
case of most current terrorist organizations, the target is liberal
western republics, and the aim is to instill fear that will be manifest
in repression that will in effect dismantle the freedom that the
terrorists hate.

Marc de Piolenc

Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote:
> 
> At 02:59 PM 4/6/02 +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> >Nonsense. If you can't see any difference between terrorists and
> >risistants you are either wilfully ignorant or confused.
> 
> "Terrorist" is what the bigger side of an asymmetrical conflict
> call the smaller side.  Also "crazy", and other intended-derogatory
> labels.

"Accolade?"

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

"Ask a Booch accolade to define 'simple' and 'complex' sometime."

I think you mean "acolyte," as in disciple or follower, not "accolade"
as in praise...

If you like using ten-dollar words (and I do), keep a dictionary handy.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: A critique of "RE: Pentagon Readies Efforts to Sway SentimentAbroad"

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Gil Hamilton wrote:

> >Japan's "Asia for the Asiatics" propaganda was a sign of military
> >expansion,
> >and was totally ignored by allied powers -- to our great loss -- and
> >surprise. In most countries, they just walked in (hell, they walked over
> >France).
> 
> Hmm.  "They" presumably refers to "Japan" despite the disagreement in
> number.  Still, I don't recall Japan having "walked over France," so
> I can't be sure - maybe you mean the Axis powers?.

She could be referring to the Japanese takeover of French Indochina. The
Axis powers met fierce, though poorly organized, resistance in their
invasion of France. It was no cakewalk.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: PSYOPS/Foreign agent John W. Rendon Jr: Osama Comic?

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

A few details that make me doubt the authenticity of this news item, or
perhaps the accuracy with which it is reported.

"Major Variola (ret)" wrote:

> 
>General Worden envisions a broad mission ranging from
> "black"
>campaigns that use disinformation and other covert
> activities to "white"
>public affairs that rely on truthful news releases,
> Pentagon officials said.

The terms "black" and "white" do not refer to the question of whether
the propaganda message is false or true. Instead, they refer to whether
the true source of the message is declared or disguised. "Black"
propaganda purports to emanate from a source other than the true one.
The message itself, however, may be either false or true.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: What Kind Of Government......

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Steve Schear wrote:

> I was having trouble understanding the thought constructs that these judges
> use to arrive at their application and interpretation of the constitutional
> issues until I came across a copy of a 1995 treatise by Larry Lessig,
> "Translating Federalism: United States v Lopez".

> Larry's paper its not on-line that I know, but if any on the list want a
> copy I'll be happy to send them the .pdf

I would be grateful for a chance to download this paper. If it is bigger
than 1.5 MB it is an iffy proposition as an attachment to email, so
perhaps a temporary posting to a free Web server...?

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: Property Rights

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> 
> > Jim Choate wrote:
> > >
> > > Property rights don't exist as absolute human rights.
> >
> > Nonsense. It is impossible to logically separate property rights from
> > the right to life.
> 
> I disagree. Life <> Property. One can have life with absolutely no
> property. One can not have property without life.

Simple proof using reductio ad absurdam:

Let us assume you are correct, and the right to life does NOT imply any
right to property.

Consider the following hypothetical (but feasible) scenario:

A stalks B. Whenever B acquires food or drink, A deprives him of it. B
has no right to property, so A has done no wrong.

Eventually, however, B dies of starvation or thirst. A has deprived him
of his life by depriving him only of property, thus refuting the initial
assumption.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Property Rights

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> Property rights don't exist as absolute human rights. 

Nonsense. It is impossible to logically separate property rights from
the right to life. The right to life is absolute, therefore the right to
property is, too.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Re: The vital private archive

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Michael Motyka wrote:

> >E-books are already a fact, but most are sold with the same retail
> >machinery as regular books, so changing the medium doesn't change the
> >risk.
> >
> I mean something more along the lines of encrypting each of your
> electronic books and burning it to a CD. Nobody should be able to tell
> by looking what you read, nobody should be able to compromise someone
> else's library. Then the issue of reading habits become null. All tools
> should be open source. Essentially they already exist - just need a
> little packaging.

That's pretty much what I understood you to say. The problem is that
somewhere in the bookdealers' and jobbers' archives, the sales record
will have to be accessible by title and by customer or customer
category. In the case of a cash sale, of course, there's no problem, but
if a credit card was involved the dealer has to be able to retrieve the
record by name in case there's a chargeback or complaint. So the
vulnerability to a police razzia still exists.

Marc

The vital private archive

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Dear Michael,

Wow - two minds with but one set of thoughts.

Michael Motyka wrote:
> 
> Won't it be wonderful if the Court rules in favor of the 1st?
> 
> OTOH, why trust in a corruptible legal system?
> 
> Use cash and don't leave the ID information at the goddam bookstore in
> the first place. If you're going to keep the book and you can't deduct
> it, peel stickers, destroy receipts. Duh!

That's fine for the clued-in folk like us, but what the bookdealers are
fighting for is the vital but fragile asset of consumer confidence. Joe
Sixpack is going to think twice about buying a book on sexual impotence
- not to mention the Anarchist Cookbook - if he thinks Big Brother is
going to be following his purchases. So a favorable court decision will
mean much to the trade.

> It is time for books to be published on CD. Using open-source tools and
> good encryption, then the fascists can't even tell what you read. Unless
> your OS is corrupted.

E-books are already a fact, but most are sold with the same retail
machinery as regular books, so changing the medium doesn't change the
risk.
 
>  Hack CD burners to add a SetBurnerIDCode command.

Sorry. Could you expand on the significance of this for non-programmers?
What does this command accomplish? Is it in firmware?
 
>  Gather, duplicate and distribute widely state, federal
>  and unpopular information that is quickly disappearing.

Yes! I've been doing that for about 20 years, but I'm fettered now by
not being able to visit my favorite research libraries in the States.

If you have personal contacts at US depository libraries that are now
being forced to destroy "sensitive" material, you will do mankind and
freedom a service by arranging to take that material off their hands.
Librarians have very strong instincts for preserving books - they don't
like to burn them. If they trust you to make the stuff disappear and not
reveal their help, you'll get it all. 

Other stuff turns up in library sales, pawnshops, thrift stores...all of
which are currently out of my reach!
 
> It's like F451 - private archives are the only way to save proscribed
> information.

The other side of the coin is research/reprinting services like mine,
which make the private archives available to others as copies and scans.
I also trade 2:1 (for very useful stuff, 3:1) for stuff I want. In other
words, you give me 100 pages of stuff I want, and I give you 200 (or
300) pages of stuff that I have and you want. At present, that and
downloads are the only mechanisms by which I'm able to expand my
collection.

Marc de Piolenc
Iligan, Philippines
http://www89.pair.com/techinfo/
(or see my catalog on ABE)

Re: CDR: James Bovard On Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Jei wrote:
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:17:53 -0500
> From: Matthew Gaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Matthew Gaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: James Bovard On Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants
> 
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:21:08 -0800
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Jim Bovard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Matt - Fighting Terrorism, Saving Tyrants
> 
> Matt:
> Thought you might enjoy this bouquet for the war on terrorism.
> take it easy,
> Jim
> 
>   USA Today   January 10, 2002
> 
>Don't bed down with tyrants to fight terrorism
>By James Bovard
> 
>President Bush recently declared: "So long as anybody's
>terrorizing established governments, there needs to
> be a war."
>Bush rightfully sought international support for the campaign
>to put the al_Qaeda terrorist network out of
> business. But the
>war on terrorism threatens to become a license for tyranny.
>The United Nations is concerned that an expansive call for
>governments to crack down on terrorism - a crime that is not
>clearly defined - 

It IS clearly defined - and by the same government that is now ignoring
the definition.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Petro wrote:
> 
> On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 04:27 AM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> >> What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, ya?
> >
> > Nonsense. No reasonable definition of criminal conduct would put the US
> > government and al-Quaeda in the same category.
> 
> How about Criminal Conduct meaning "Actions violate the laws".
> 
> The USG *HAS* done that from time to time you know. Maybe not as
> baldly as al-Quaeda, but it has done so.

Okay, let's try a concrete example:

A commits the offense of blocking another's driveway with his
automobile.

B commits murder.

Is A in the same category as B? If yes, then I have to concede the
argument, because as you say the US government is not Simon-pure. I do,
however, make a distinction.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

mattd wrote:

> US violates the Geneva Convention

> The US is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, which specifies the
> conditions under which such prisoners are to be treated.  The Convention
> covers irregular forces such as al-Qaeda as well as regular armed forces,

Al-Quaeda is not a military force by any reasonable reckoning; it is a
criminal association whose victims are defenseless and innocent of any
involvement (pro or anti) in the cause that the criminal association
claims to espouse.

> and a quick skim suggests that the US are violating it in several ways.
> Interrogation: the US has publicly stated they will interrogate the
> prisoners; however this is specificly forbidden by the convention.

Interrogation is certainly NOT prohibited by the Convention. Where are
you getting this nonsense? Every army of every signatory power has
interrogators trained and ready to process prisoners of war. Every
infantry leader is trained to rapidly elicit information of immediate
tactical value from the enemy soldiers whom he captures.

>  No
> prisoner is bound to give anything more than the infamnous "name, rank and
> serial number" (or equivalent); coercion to gain more information is
> expressly forbidden "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of
> coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them
> information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may
> not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or
> disadvantageous treatment of any kind." (Article 17)

Right. Coercion and torture forbidden. Asking questions is not. Use of
trickery is not. Many other means of obtaining information are not.

> Housing: the US are housing the POWs in wire-mesh cages.  Unless US troops
> are quartered in similar conditions, this is a violation: "Prisoners of war
> shall be quartered under conditions as favourable as those for the forces
> of the Detaining Power who are billeted in the same area.

The Convention certainly did not envision eliminating security
precautions against the escape of prisoners!
 
> Trial and punishment: POWs are considered to be subject to the same laws
> and regulations as soldiers of the detaining power; they may be tried only
> by military courts (except where jurisdiction would normally belong to
> civil courts), and sentances must be the same as for soldiers of the
> detaining power commiting similar acts.  POWs tried for acts commited prior
> to capture retain the benefits of the Convention even if convicted.

I'll say it again - these are not prisoners of war! 

> If US prisoners were treated in this manner, the US would be kicking and
> screaming.  Is this another case of US moral exceptionalism?

If the US prisoners in question had engineered, or were suspected of
having engineered, the deaths of thousands of innocent people, I suspect
that even LESS sympathy or consideration would be shown them. They
certainly would not get any from me.

Marc de Piolenc

Re: CDR: FREE JIM BELL GROUP INVITATION.

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Interested. Sign me up.

Marc de Piolenc

mattd wrote:
> 
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> avenues for the freedom of comrade Bell.

Re: CDR: Re: End of the IRS??

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

Hey folks - you need to keep in mind that the "not ratified" argument is
not what will be discussed, and for obvious reasons. The IRS is not
competent to comment on whether their marching orders were or were not
properly ratified by the People. It is the actual content of their
statutory authority that is in question.

What WILL be discussed is the simple fact that, to make the current
internal revenue code constitutional (two previous attempts having been
overturned by the courts), those framing it simply omitted to require
people to do any action that government had no authority to require.
Instead, taxes are collected from multitudes who don't owe them by
suckering them into "voluntary" self-assessment. Once they have declared
themselves "taxpayers" - usually by declaring themselves "US citizens"
(federal subjects who have no Constitutional or Common Law protection)
on an SSN application - the courts use tricks of equity contract law
(which apparently doesn't require knowing consent) to force them to file
information returns and pay tax. Various strategies for undoing the
damage have been tried with varying degrees of success. Irwin Schiff is
the most successful of the strategists, having successfully practiced
what he preaches for decades.

The best strategy for most individuals is not to rely on courts (staffed
by beneficiaries of the fraudulent tax), but simply to drop out of the
system. Nobody pays any attention to notices of SSN revocation, but if
you simply stop using the one assigned you - that does work. Few
employers have the courage to refuse an IRS Notice of Levy, however
obviously illegal it is - so employ yourself. And so on. As time passes,
Atlas shrugs; the smartest and most productive get out first, leaving
sheeple as both beneficiaries and sole contributors to the fraudulent
system that they inhabit. It has been happening in my lifetime: people
who, forty years ago, would have had no choice but corporate employment
with all the liabilities that implies, now would not consider working
for anyone but themselves.

Hang 'em high? Why bother. Make 'em ineffectual!

Marc de Piolenc

Petro wrote:
> 
> On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 09:00 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> 
> > I've never quite understood how the
> > amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913
> > argument is supposed to play out.

Re: CDR: Re: Random Data Compressed 100:1 (Guffaw)

[F. Marc de Piolenc]

I think they may be referring to a random string of _ASCII characters_.
That would be subject to compression because it is not random at the bit
level. 

But 100:1? I have no idea how to achieve that.

Marc de Piolenc

Declan McCullagh wrote:

> > What exactly is random data? Does it have to appear to be random? Does
> > it have to pass some set of statistical tests to be random? If a string
> 
> I'm naturally skeptical of this claim (until I can verify it for
> myself), but I do not believe the claim is "we can encode random data
> at 100:1."  They seem to be talking about 100:1 lossless compression
> of real-world data, which is generally not random.
> 
> -DEclan

-- 
Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776

Rather than make war on the American people and their
liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways
to empower them to protect themselves when
warranted.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin