Re: 1st amendment

2004-11-17 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:46:21PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 At 10:56 PM 11/16/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
 http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html/resources_storyPrintableView
 
 DALLAS SERVER COMPANY CARRIES ZARQAWI DEATH VIDEOS, TERRORIST WEBSITES
 
 Any State employee who attempts to oppress free speech, including
 video, deserves killing.  Read the Bill of Rights.

The next day, Zarqawi's spokesman announced the proof and
provided a link to the video of the exploding car bomb, on The
Planet.com.

Asked how he would like The Plant to respond, ...
  ^^^
And any news editor who so grossly fails to copy edit also deserves
killing. Telling little slip, tho'.

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Re: 1st amendment

2004-11-16 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:46:21PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 At 10:56 PM 11/16/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
 http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html/resources_storyPrintableView
 
 DALLAS SERVER COMPANY CARRIES ZARQAWI DEATH VIDEOS, TERRORIST WEBSITES
 
 Any State employee who attempts to oppress free speech, including
 video, deserves killing.  Read the Bill of Rights.

The next day, Zarqawi's spokesman announced the proof and
provided a link to the video of the exploding car bomb, on The
Planet.com.

Asked how he would like The Plant to respond, ...
  ^^^
And any news editor who so grossly fails to copy edit also deserves
killing. Telling little slip, tho'.

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Re: Novell-SUSE Sponsors Openswan (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-06-21 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 10:17:54AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 20 Jun 2004 04:26:01 -
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Novell-SUSE Sponsors Openswan
 User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3
 
 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/20/0124214
 Posted by: timothy, on 2004-06-20 03:03:00
 Topic: security, 37 comments
 
from the they're-building-a-behemoth dept.
[1]hsjones writes Concerned about the demise of FreeS/WAN? Well,
looks like Openswan is going to be a good, strong open source IPsec
project going forward.

What, precisely, is broken about KAME?

What is it about the Linux crowd that, if it's two years old, it's
apparently time to reimplement it.  (Firewall code, software RAID,
libc, you know, whatever. Bonus points if it means a kernel A{B,P}I
modification...)

How 'bout just importing the reference implementation which Works,
something FreeS/WAN was never actualy able to say?

Oh well.

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Re: Novell-SUSE Sponsors Openswan (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-06-20 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 10:17:54AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 20 Jun 2004 04:26:01 -
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Novell-SUSE Sponsors Openswan
 User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3
 
 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/20/0124214
 Posted by: timothy, on 2004-06-20 03:03:00
 Topic: security, 37 comments
 
from the they're-building-a-behemoth dept.
[1]hsjones writes Concerned about the demise of FreeS/WAN? Well,
looks like Openswan is going to be a good, strong open source IPsec
project going forward.

What, precisely, is broken about KAME?

What is it about the Linux crowd that, if it's two years old, it's
apparently time to reimplement it.  (Firewall code, software RAID,
libc, you know, whatever. Bonus points if it means a kernel A{B,P}I
modification...)

How 'bout just importing the reference implementation which Works,
something FreeS/WAN was never actualy able to say?

Oh well.

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Re: 1st amend, thoughtcrime, schools as pipelines to jail

2003-06-19 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-threat18jun18001434,1,6789200.story?c
oll=la-headlines-california

On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:36:14PM -0400, Sunder wrote:
 Anyone got a cypherpunks/cypherpunks like login for the turd of a login?

cpunks/cpunks works.

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Re: Destroying government computers

2003-06-19 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 08:16:57PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
 If Orrin Hatch proposes such a thing, we can propose technologies which  
 identify those from .gov or .mil or other Congress/Gov't. domains and  
 send lethal viruses and suchlike back to them to destroy their machines  
 if they illegally connect to our machines.

I've said this before, but I'll say it again:

Spooks don't get AOL CDs too?

If you were going to go about blowing up someone's computer, would
you *really* do it in a traceable way? Wouldn't IP spoofing and
throwaway connections just be SOP at that point?

Do you expect a government so obviously disinterested in its
citizens' privacy to openly disclose their source IP address? C'mon.

Or do you just think that they'll be stupid enough not to know to
bother? Certainly, your first retaliation would get their attention,
and they have plenty of clout to hire smart people to deal with this
correctly.

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Re: I for one am glad that...

2003-03-18 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 01:39:59PM -0600, Keith Ray wrote:
 The UN authorized force in resolution 678 to uphold current and future
 resolutions.  The UN voted unanimously to declare Iraq in violation of
 previous UN resolutions in 1441.  The UN weapons inspector's reports
 detailed many omissions in Iraq's weapons declaration and failures to
 fully cooperate with inspectors.

This entirely disregards the UN stating a position against immediate
action on the US's part, which President Bush chose to flatly ignore
in his address Monday evening. The UN Security Council is allowed to
change its mind. Just because they said the use of force could be
justified doesn't mean that the Security Council approves of the
US's current actions; that's completely twisting their words (and
quite obviously not the case).

  So-called terrorists hate not our freedom, but our meddling.
 This is no excuse for use of unconventional warfare against the US nor does
it
 delegitimize the US's use of force to defend themselves.

I think it was intended as a suggestion that bombing Iraq won't make
the use of unconventional warfare against the US any less likely.
And get enough of the EU pissed off and it could lead to the use
of conventional warfare against the US. Fun!

 As far as dragging the nation to war, 70% of the American people
 are behind him.

Oh? Really? You asked them yourself? Because you sure didn't provide
a reference or a statistical error distribution...

 Damn those free elections!  Why can't we just agree to let you
 pick the world's leaders?

Oh, you mean the free elections like the one that got fixed by
President Bush's brother in Florida in 2002? Or maybe you mean the
kind of election in which a candidate can win the popular vote but
still not be elected, like in 2002 when the current Bush was elected?
Right then.

(No, it doesn't matter whether there's proof; the fact that there's
reasonable doubt is damning.)

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Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home

2003-03-12 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:54:13PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings
 changed the name of french fries to freedom fries, in a culinary rebuke
 of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the
 U.S. position on Iraq. 
 
 Ditto for french toast, which will be known as freedom toast. 

::sigh::

So, my two thoughts:

1. Yeah, the French will be really insulted by our removing their
name from a Belgian dish. Oh yeah. They're quakin'.

2. We're trying to out-petty the French? The French are the pettiest
fuckers you ever will meet![1] They still want the national dateline
moved to Paris! They have a government bureaucracy devoted to keeping
foreign words out of common usage in Proper French! C'mon...

[1] Nothing personal against French subscribers. I'm sure at least
30% of you are mostly reasonable people. More than that and you're
beating out the US subscribers.

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2003-03-06 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:19AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 h -- wonder what those dirty words were? 

Did you use one of the FCC seven?

In any case, I was at first a bit irritated to get these. Okay, I'm
still irritated, but it's interesting, because it means that whoever
at the patent office has decided s/he needs to monitor cypherpunks
is self-censoring their input. Which means if you don't want them
to see your cypherpunks post, you've got a decent chance at it by
just saying fuck in it somewhere.

Seems like poor planning to me.

As for the unsolicited responses to list posting... accusing the US
gov't of bad netiquette is sort of like accusing a three-year-old
of bad table manners. It's true, but it isn't going to get you
anywhere till the accused grows up a bit.

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2003-03-06 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:22:19AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 h -- wonder what those dirty words were? 

Did you use one of the FCC seven?

In any case, I was at first a bit irritated to get these. Okay, I'm
still irritated, but it's interesting, because it means that whoever
at the patent office has decided s/he needs to monitor cypherpunks
is self-censoring their input. Which means if you don't want them
to see your cypherpunks post, you've got a decent chance at it by
just saying fuck in it somewhere.

Seems like poor planning to me.

As for the unsolicited responses to list posting... accusing the US
gov't of bad netiquette is sort of like accusing a three-year-old
of bad table manners. It's true, but it isn't going to get you
anywhere till the accused grows up a bit.

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Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:08:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
 anarchy (without a top authority -- an arch). We pick our 
[...]
 Anarchy means an arch means free choice means responsibility for 

I confess I haven't a clue what you mean by an arch, though your
first quote jives.

Anarchy comes from the Greek anarchos (that ch is a chi... but the
Italians mudered that particular character for a diphthong along the
way; a pity: it'd make fuck a three letter word). an- is a negative
prefix, and archos means rule.

So what's an arch? Like in St. Louis? Like in Noah? Or do you
think all the illiterates who can't be bothered to read Rand spent
that time reading Classical Greek instead (I mean, *I* did, but...),
but they just can't get it unless you break it into particles for
them?

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Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-04 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:08:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
 anarchy (without a top authority -- an arch). We pick our 
[...]
 Anarchy means an arch means free choice means responsibility for 

I confess I haven't a clue what you mean by an arch, though your
first quote jives.

Anarchy comes from the Greek anarchos (that ch is a chi... but the
Italians mudered that particular character for a diphthong along the
way; a pity: it'd make fuck a three letter word). an- is a negative
prefix, and archos means rule.

So what's an arch? Like in St. Louis? Like in Noah? Or do you
think all the illiterates who can't be bothered to read Rand spent
that time reading Classical Greek instead (I mean, *I* did, but...),
but they just can't get it unless you break it into particles for
them?

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Re: Trivial OTP generation method? (makernd.c)

2003-03-02 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:11:57AM +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
 At this moment, I am pondering to design a small analog noise generator
 for the microphone input of a sound card (as most of my servers which
 could need this toy have an onboard soundcard).

What's wrong with the old trick of cranking the gain all the way up,
plugging no microphone at all in, and getting thermal noise?

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Re: Wash the key, don't clear it

2003-02-28 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:49:34AM -0500, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
 Now see, I've known about volatile since about 1985.  It's just that 
 all these cryptography books make such a big show and hoopla about 
 zeroing out memory.  Even the GnuPG code does the 'burn_stack' thing, 
 which was shown on the DBS list to be vulnerable.
 
 So I figured the volatile feature must be horribly unreliable.  I guess 
 I'll just have to check the assembler output from gcc to make sure.

volatile must, by definition work correctly, and it really does mean
don't touch this code you bastard optimizer.

As Perry Metzger pointed out over on his cryptography list when this
came up several months ago, the basic device drivers running your
computer wouldn't work if volatile wouldn't work because there are
situations where you MUST read something from a hardware address
and discard the output in order to trigger the device to take some
certain action. That device's specs are completely outside the ken
of the compiler, which is why we have volatile.

If it doesn't work in your compiler, your compiler is broken by
design.

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Re: Trivial OPT generation method?

2003-02-26 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:37:10PM -, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote:
  1) Get 8 bytes from /dev/urandom. (Just for sure.) Put them into the
 You probably know this if you use it, but /dev/random is the most
 random one, as it always uses system entropy, rather than falling
 back on an algorithm to generate more bits than are available in
 the pool.

He only needs a pseudo-random seed, though. The real random comes
from the radio white-noise.

I'd say it'd be better to not waste the system's random bytes on
this at all, but just to gen your own pseudo-random bytes using
/dev/urandom's out-of-entropy function from your OS of choice
(audit, I guess, but it's mostly just to blank the memory of
anything useful).

After that, you actually want to feed the entropy you're getting
from the radio tuner *into* /dev/[u]random.

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Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-13 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter

I'm inserting attributions and reformatting cited text, since you
seem incapable of quoting in a legible manner. I'm also only
replying to the parts of this that particularly amuse me. You should
be aware that I'm not taking you seriously. Ordinarily, I wouldn't
feed the trolls, but I'm bored.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:36:41PM +1100, mattd wrote:
 [gr wrote:]
  One can (and often does) find him because he makes a mistake in the
  act of commiting the crime. Which, if I'm reading my history right,
  is what's hampered the noisy proponents of AP up to this point
  already.
 Crime? Wot crime,guvnor? Jim and CJ were not 'noisy'.imo. Im a bit noisy 
 cos Im pushing the 'let it all hang out' version.

Jim Bell was arrested for, charged with, and convicted of crossing
US state lines with the intent to threaten a federal official, a
felony in this country. Felony == crime. 

Carl Johnson was similarly convicted of threatening a federal
official, still a felony in the US.

Regardless of what you think of the laws involved, these two broke
them according to the legal system under which they chose to
operate, which is, by definition, crime.

Bully for you that you live (or claim to live) in Australia under a
different legal system.

The point here is that Bell, Johnson, and you have all made
yourselves prime suspects if any public official (especially one in
the US) is killed in a way that can be linked to assassination
politics, and the still-rather-powerful executive branch of the US
government is likely to come looking for you (and Bell and Johnson,
if they're not incarcerated at that point) if someone should be,
and likely to charge you with incitement to murder. It doesn't
matter whether or not this is Right (I'm willing to stipulate that
it's Wrong), it is the reality of the situation.

The crypto and electronic currency ideas used in assassination
politics are kind of neat as a thought experiment, but the execution
(no pun intended) has, thus far, fallen extremely short. Unless
you know something I don't and would care to share it.

 Mmm,where do we start,lets get some firebrands and go up to the proffrs? 
 Look at sites with no logs for quad anon 'predictors' who may be overseas 
 briefly visiting cybercafes,Good luck china.

My point is that knowing who was paid to kill someone is not the
only way to find out that the assassin performed the assassination.
The assassin can easily be (and often is) caught in the act. The
assassin can fail (and, for bonus points, also be caught). There are
plenty of examples of assassination attempts for which there is no
monetary paper trail in which the assassin has been caught. (Let's
see, in US history off the top of my head: John Wilkes Booth, Lee
Harvey Oswald, and John W. Hinckley Jr.)

The issue of getting caught is totally orthogonal to the monetary
paper trail; they intersect if a LEA uses the monetary paper trail
to catch the assassin, but that's not the only way to catch him.
Getting caught, though, must be a concern equal to, if not greater
than, compensation to an assassin interested in getting paid for
assassination (since he can't get paid if he gets caught or, at
least, it won't do him much
good in prison).

 (you just contradicted yrself btw.)

How so?

 The one person killed will have had to have done a lot of evil shit to get 
 enough pooled (presumably) to tempt a seasoned pro.

I think you've watched Grosse Pointe Blank five too many times. How
many seasoned professional killers do you really imagine are running
around in the US these days? No, really, I want to know what you
think.

 Unless some professional killer turns all altruistic,stranger
 things have happened.The killer could be suicidal.another
 possibility.Lots of scenarios possible here,movie scripts,even.

Hrm. That kind of counteracts the utility of Bell's system of
remuneration for assassination, doesn't it? If the assassin would
have done it for free (or, at least, cheap) and is willing to die
trying, why would he bother with all the crypto flim-flam? Sure,
maybe having a list of recommended targets would be helpful for
all those civil-liberty-loving suicidal assassins out there just
searching for a suitably morally devoid victim, but there's not
much need for an organization to hold predictions in escrow then,
now is there?

 KILL THE PRESIDENT! Id buy that for a dollar!

Really, I don't see what you've got against W. He's actually just a
harmless twit, another Ronald Reagan. You really ought to be more
interested in his cabinet, starting with (my former governor, who
managed to lose an election to a dead man) Ashcroft. They're the
real assholes. But you'd have a hard time knowing that considering
you don't even live in the country whose public figures you're so
interested in having assassinated.

Cheers mattd, apologies to the unamused on cypherpunks...

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Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-12 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:50:24PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
  Just keep in mind that AP is a joke among knowledgeable
  technologists for its unworkability, but a wonderful joke
  on those who believe it's anything more than a taunt.
 Total bullshit again.  Sure, AP requires anonymous digital cash, but so do
 most other elements of the cypherpunk vision.

No, no. AP is funny because it's impracticeable. One does not find an
assassin exclusively by tracing who paid him to kill. One can (and
often does) find him because he makes a mistake in the act of
commiting the crime. Which, if I'm reading my history right, is
what's hampered the noisy proponents of AP up to this point already.

The point is that Bell's theory does a really good job of sorting out
the business end of assassination, but it does nothing for actually
teaching people how to kill. More importantly, it doesn't teach
people how to avoid getting caught.

Killing one person, especially a public official, pisses a whole
bunch of people off. Those people have a tendency to come find
their buddy's killer.

No kind of real or threatened assassination can weaken a government
in which a majority of the governed people believe. It can only make
it seem more righteous and be more strong.

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