ANWR
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry... I am. Find another way other than killing the Polar Bears (they have to helicopter them around the N. pole each year so they don't starve), seals, whales, etc. Your right to TRY to make money doesn't over-ride my right to a reasonably maintaned planet. And as far as $25+/gallon gas...go baby go! -- Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
ANWR
CDR: Re: Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The Washington Times John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Bill Gertz has received an extraordinary number of leaked documents. Most of those occurred during the Clinton era when national security mongerers opposed to Clinton's policies leaked top secret stuff. Those kinds of leaks seemed to have diminished now that those anti-Dems are in power again. They continue to be opposed to carry overs from the Clinton team like Tenet and others. There could be more leaks or worse crimes against humanity to help get rid of those remnants. However, ex-members of Clinton's administration are now leaking natsec stuff as Bush's team increases bashing of the Dem's policies, and counterterrorism claims are sure to get leaked left and right once the pol's dipshit backslapping and airkissing vanish. Congressional hearings on who knew what and when about the 911 attacks may not be in the offing any time soon, but they are needed to determine which war mongerers were most in cahoots with their good buddy jihadists to foster mineral exploitation in the target region and as a sideline boost the need for strategic Alaskan oil. What Bush and cronies want to do in ANWR is entirely unrelated to strategy - they want the right to go make money by drilling on public lands. If it goes through in the near future watch how much the government spends on roads and other support to get the drillers in there and how much is payed in return by the oil companies. Long-term energy strategy is more important than corporate greed. The most strategic thing to do with Alaskan oil would be to leave it right where it is. Dipping in to the reserves unnecessarily is moronic. NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry... Mike
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Steve, I read it a few days ago. I think that it will take a decade or two to be widely accepted. I'm betting that the standard method of management by crisis will be how our country deals with the end of oil whether the writer is corrrect or not about the date. Mike Steve Schear wrote: At 02:43 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Bush and cronies want to do in ANWR is entirely unrelated to strategy - they want the right to go make money by drilling on public lands. If it goes through in the near future watch how much the government spends on roads and other support to get the drillers in there and how much is payed in return by the oil companies. Long-term energy strategy is more important than corporate greed. The most strategic thing to do with Alaskan oil would be to leave it right where it is. Dipping in to the reserves unnecessarily is moronic. NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry... The End of Oil http://www.sciam.com/2001/1001issue/1001reviews1.html
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At 02:43 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Bush and cronies want to do in ANWR is entirely unrelated to strategy - they want the right to go make money by drilling on public lands. If it goes through in the near future watch how much the government spends on roads and other support to get the drillers in there and how much is payed in return by the oil companies. Long-term energy strategy is more important than corporate greed. The most strategic thing to do with Alaskan oil would be to leave it right where it is. Dipping in to the reserves unnecessarily is moronic. NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry... The End of Oil http://www.sciam.com/2001/1001issue/1001reviews1.html
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Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry... I am. Find another way other than killing the Polar Bears (they have to helicopter them around the N. pole each year so they don't starve), seals, whales, etc. Your right to TRY to make money doesn't over-ride my right to a reasonably maintaned planet. As usual you misunderstand me - I only approve of going into ANWR in a case of dire need. Our society depends so heavily on fossil fuels that a sudden removal would cause panic and starvation. And as far as $25+/gallon gas...go baby go! $25 is a bit extreme - lets move it up to ~$3 1 year from now to start. Change it too quickly and you cause too much trouble for the economy. I also think we should learn a lesson from NY - annual vehicle registration costs are based on vehicle weight. Mike
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At 04:23 PM 9/24/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think we should learn a lesson from NY - annual vehicle registration costs are based on vehicle weight. Mike That's not fair. It penalizes safer (more massive) cars without regard to their actual petrol consumption. If you only tax cars you ignore driving habits --you subsidize 'wasteful' (but fun) driving, e.g., accelerating faster than fuel-optimal. The market is fair: just let the price of gas be established by a free market. Then everyone can decide whether they want a 1000 lb, 300 hp car or a 3000 lb, 100 hp car, or something in between.
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As usual you misunderstand me - I only approve of going into ANWR in a case of dire need. Our society depends so heavily on fossil fuels that a sudden removal would cause panic and starvation. I don't misunderstand at all. Better we learn to live without it now then ruin the planet and still have the problem. At least my way we'll have some nice green valley's to sit around in while we pine about the glory days of yor... $25 is a bit extreme - lets move it up to ~$3 1 year from now to start. Change it too quickly and you cause too much trouble for the economy. I would hope it would raise holy hell with the economy. I also think we should learn a lesson from NY - annual vehicle registration costs are based on vehicle weight. You mean they don't? (Tx. has always been as long as I've owned a car) -- Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
