Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
Sunder>>I'm afraid we wouldn't make a very good road show... True for me and you and all,Still I just luv the subject headline,conjures up delightful imagery.
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Sunder wrote: > Ok, show of hands > > Who here claims to be a member of CACL? > > Ok, of those who claim to be members of CACL's, who claims to be a > self-appointed CACL genius? > > Tim? Declan? Anyone? You should quit your day job and take this on the road. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
Ok, show of hands Who here claims to be a member of CACL? Ok, of those who claim to be members of CACL's, who claims to be a self-appointed CACL genius? Tim? Declan? Anyone? --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Gil Hamilton wrote: > > > It's interesting to note how much more pleasant Choate was in his > > early days on the list. In those days, he was not so intent on > > showing everyone that he was an authority on all possible subjects. > > That was before I knew what kind of sharks swim in this pool. You don't > like my interaction then change yours. I treat you people the way you > treated me back then. I didn't start it. Go talk to Tim, Delcan, and the > rest of the self-appointed CACL geniuses. > > You reap what you sow. > > > -- > > > Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. > > Bumper Sticker > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- >
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
Sigh... I wonder if there is anything inChoate doesn't misunderstand We may never know... --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Choate misunderstands journalism. When writing about an appeals court
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 11:39:18AM +1100, Ralph Wallis wrote: > I liked this early post: > http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/11/msg01024.html > > (and it has the earnestness of a newcomer.) Yep! It's surprisingly -- almost -- sweet. -Declan
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Gil Hamilton wrote: > It's interesting to note how much more pleasant Choate was in his > early days on the list. In those days, he was not so intent on > showing everyone that he was an authority on all possible subjects. That was before I knew what kind of sharks swim in this pool. You don't like my interaction then change yours. I treat you people the way you treated me back then. I didn't start it. Go talk to Tim, Delcan, and the rest of the self-appointed CACL geniuses. You reap what you sow. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Ralph Wallis wrote: > On Thursday, 13 Dec 2001 at 03:33, mattd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Disgruntled cypherpunk of the Year." me,when I find out this is not about > > an axe attack on tim may > > > > Choates not a poster,he's a spamming menace.How longs he been here? > > Choate > first post: > http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1996.03.28-1996.04.03/msg00034.html Way wrong oh buddy boy. I joined the toad.com list in early to mid '93, known about it since about two days after it actually formed. The Austin Cypherpunks were formed in '94 and the discussion and formation was on the toad.com list. SSZ went online in Oct. of 94 when ISDN became available. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
From: Ralph Wallis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Choates not a poster,he's a spamming menace.How longs he been here? > >Choate >first post: >http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1996.03.28-1996.04.03/ >msg00034.html Naw, he's been around longer than that. This is the earliest message I can find: http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/11/msg00633.html It's interesting to note how much more pleasant Choate was in his early days on the list. In those days, he was not so intent on showing everyone that he was an authority on all possible subjects. - GH _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Choate misunderstands journalism. Not at all, journalism is the act of interacting with others about their actions and beliefs in the hope that you can spin doctor the reality into something people will find enteraining and hence pay money for. It's a great job for those who can't teach. -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
Choate misunderstands journalism. When writing about an appeals court decision, it's generally not appropriate to cite the ravings of Net.wackos in an obscure newsgroup or mailing list a decade ago. Choate shows again he's not merely a Net.wacko; he's a Net.loon. Heck, I didn't even cite a Harvard Law Review article specifically on this case -- wasn't necessary. It may be that Choate has said spam is trespass. But I'm not sure why anyone could care. -Declan On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:28:42AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > Who again has been saying for 10+ years that this sort of behaviour (incl. > Open Relay scanning, which isn't covered here) is trespass? Check the > archives folks...will Declan give predictive credit where credit is due? > Probably not, that takes being honest... > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49031,00.html > > > -- > > -- > > > Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. > > Bumper Sticker > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- >
Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
"Disgruntled cypherpunk of the Year." me,when I find out this is not about an axe attack on tim may Choates not a poster,he's a spamming menace.How longs he been here?