Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
Jim Choate wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If you cannot tell the difference between terrorists and > > freedom fighters, you got shit for brains. > > > > The revolutionaries killed british soldiers in America. They > > did not go to england and kill english children. > > Why is where they were killed important? If you kill people on your land > it's ok, kill them on their land it's not? > > Then the Allies were 'terrorist' when they entered German territory in > WWII? I hardly think so. Let's try to spell this out so even you can understand it, Jim. The distinction is between killing combatants and killing noncombatants. Do you get that? Location is incidental. Motive is irrelevant to the definition. American revolutionaries killed British soldiers and their unfortunate Hessian co-belligerents, not office workers in London (or Boston for that matter). That's what makes them something other than terrorists. Marc de Piolenc
Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
Jim Choate wrote: > Why? The Americans were most certainly terrorist/revolutionaries/freedom > fighters/etc. Again, you make no distinction between freedom fighters and terrorists, which is very sad because there is a rather important difference. Being incapable of making the distinction, you are condemned to hate everybody who fights. > > Arms should indeed be taken up against > > those who wantonly murder the innocent. > > And if a few innocent get caught in the wrath of your vengeance...well, > God's on our side, right? Right is certainly on our side. I'm an atheist, so I have no concern for God's opinions. Marc de Piolenc Philippines > -- > > > The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. > > Edmund Burke (1784) > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -- Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 Rather than make war on the American people and their liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways to empower them to protect themselves when warranted. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
David Honig wrote: > > At 12:42 PM 10/25/01 +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: > >Jim Choate wrote: > >> > We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable > >> > form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause. > >> > >> Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this > >> little meme very far. > > > >..and your point is...? > > Obvious to americans ---that sometimes arms *should* be taken up. No argument there - I just have a lot of trouble equating terrorism and the American war of independence. Arms should indeed be taken up against those who wantonly murder the innocent. Marc de Piolenc > > > > -- Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 Rather than make war on the American people and their liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways to empower them to protect themselves when warranted. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
Jim Choate wrote: > > > We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable > > form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause. > > Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this > little meme very far. ..and your point is...? Marc de Piolenc
Re: CDR: Re: Neverending Cycle ( was : Re: USPS: glowing by leaps and bounds )
David Honig wrote: > Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate > such antipathy. And if you believe that WTC had anything to do with US foreign policy, or that we would cease being targets if we e.g. dropped suppport for Israel, you are living in a dream world and have "bought" the terrorists' propaganda. We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause. Marc de Piolenc Philippines
