Re: CP flix

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Motyka

anonymous wrote :

At 09:35 AM 1/2/02 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
 Nomen Nescio[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 
 There was once an effort here to list CP relevent prose.
 How about a list of CP relevent moving pictures (and why
 relevent)? 
 
 Enemy of the State ---for surveillance and conspiracy
 GATTACA ---for biometrics, identity fraud, surveillance
 
 more? 
 
Why has no one mentioned '1984'? I've only seen the
1956 version with Edmond O'Brien, not the 1984 version
with John Hurt.

If we're going to proceed down the 'state as evil' axis, 
there's a rich vein of content, such as 'Brazil', 'The
President's Analyst' (very funny, and highly 
reccomended), and many others. 

I was specifically trying to avoid such mentally-unnourishing
but visually tasty scifi candy as Matrix etc.   Mostly Choate polluted the list,
what a surprise.  1984, because of the televisors and surveillance
is ok; Brazil (although brilliant) isn't CP though fantastic
in many other respects.  If I'm wrong, its because it been
years, and I welcome correction.  

Brazil : there's now a nice 3-disc set available that includes the full
142 min. version, a bunch of commentary and extras plus the sweetened 90
min. version shown on 'murrican TV. 

Brazil is CP in the sense that the hunger of the state and marketeers
for database filler and the resultant dangers and fuckups is relevant to
privacy, information and rights issues that once were part of the the
discussion. Now it's mostly mattd and tripple-x critter sex. Not that
I'm implying any direct connection.

mattd - there's way too much of it but it's not totally devoid of
substance. The uncredited posting of someone else's work, well, that's a
big problem unless it isn't someone else's work.

Mike




CP flix

2002-01-02 Thread Incognito Innominatus

At 09:35 AM 1/2/02 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
 Nomen Nescio[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 
 There was once an effort here to list CP relevent prose.
 How about a list of CP relevent moving pictures (and why
 relevent)? 
 
 Enemy of the State ---for surveillance and conspiracy
 GATTACA ---for biometrics, identity fraud, surveillance
 
 more? 
 
Why has no one mentioned '1984'? I've only seen the
1956 version with Edmond O'Brien, not the 1984 version
with John Hurt.

If we're going to proceed down the 'state as evil' axis, 
there's a rich vein of content, such as 'Brazil', 'The
President's Analyst' (very funny, and highly 
reccomended), and many others. 

I was specifically trying to avoid such mentally-unnourishing
but visually tasty scifi candy as Matrix etc.   Mostly Choate polluted the list,
what a surprise.  1984, because of the televisors and surveillance
is ok; Brazil (although brilliant) isn't CP though fantastic
in many other respects.  If I'm wrong, its because it been
years, and I welcome correction.