Re: Carnivore No More

2005-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
 --- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >it is believed that unspecified
> >   commercial surveillance tools are employed now.
> 
> It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with.
> 
> The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the
> credit.

At least we now know that the capabilities of the FBI in this 
regard are at least equivalent to that which a good Linux admin
can deploy when he has control of your upstream link.  The FBI 
cannot argue in court that their network eavesdropping capabilities
require secrecy and non-disclosure.  Sure they can pretend that
the userland tools are super high-tech, but the analysis and 
inteception of arbitrary network traffic is not rocket science.


Regards,

Steve


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Re: Carnivore No More

2005-01-15 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>it is believed that unspecified
>   commercial surveillance tools are employed now.

It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with.

The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the credit.

Cheers,
RAH
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Carnivore No More

2005-01-15 Thread Eugen Leitl

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/15/1424207
Posted by: CowboyNeal, on 2005-01-15 15:03:00

   from the calling-it-quits dept.
   [1]wikinerd writes "FBI has [2]retired the controversial Carnivore
   software, strongly criticized by privacy advocates for its email
   capturing abilities. However, it is believed that unspecified
   commercial surveillance tools are employed now. What does that mean
   for Internet users' privacy?"

   [3]Click Here 

References

   1. http://portal.wikinerds.org/
   2. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10307
   3. 
http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5671&alloc_id=12342&site_id=1&request_id=5016758&op=click&page=%2farticle%2epl

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