Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
At 09:46 AM 3/1/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: I guess my basic question is, is there a subset of counter-surveillance actions that can be taken that, while not ensuring secure communications, forces eavesdropping parties to take 'radical' measures in order to obtain the desired information? Sunder's suggestion of introducing information and watching for their response is good, though the Adversary will not respond if they're smart and they're watching you for something more important. (What was that Brit town sacrificed so the Germans wouldn't know the codes were broken? Starts with C...) In order to avoid places with ears (and homeless people with directional mics, see _Enemy of the State_) go to a park that you haven't been to before. And perform the usual CI driving maneuvres (see that Tomlinson book _The Big Breach_ for a description.. lets just say that a few sudden right turns can be useful) on the way. Or perhaps given GPS gizmos, take a bus. Leave your cell phone at home, or better, send it through the mail (left on) to yourself :-) -- Only amateurs attack machines; professionals target people. Bruce Schneier The ultimate in paranoia is not when everyone is against you but when everything is against you. P.K.Dick
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
At 10:01 AM -0800 3/1/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: (What was that Brit town sacrificed so the Germans wouldn't know the codes were broken? Starts with C...) Coventry... Ancient cathedral, etc... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
Actually, I believe there was also a town in Poland with lots of odd letter combinations so that the Allies could help break German codes! (ie, by listening to Encrypted German communications about the bombing and it's location...) That's some interesting crap about playing Beavis and Butthead...at the very least, leaving the CD player in 'perpetual' mode can force some heavy human investment in time and energy. -TD From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:09:09 -0500 At 10:01 AM -0800 3/1/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: (What was that Brit town sacrificed so the Germans wouldn't know the codes were broken? Starts with C...) Coventry... Ancient cathedral, etc... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _ Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. locations. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
Major Variola (ret) (2004-03-01 18:01Z) wrote: In order to avoid places with ears (and homeless people with directional mics, see _Enemy of the State_) go to a park that you haven't been to before. And perform the usual CI driving maneuvres (see that Tomlinson book _The Big Breach_ for a description.. lets just say that a few sudden right turns can be useful) on the way. Or perhaps given GPS gizmos, take a bus. Leave your cell phone at home, or better, send it through the mail (left on) to yourself :-) If they know you're trying to shake them, that alerts them and eliminates any opportunity you might have otherwise had to feed them misinformation in the future. Or, depending on the potential threat you represent, they might just arrest you and put you in a dark hole since you're obviously no longer a useful source of intel. -- That woman deserves her revenge, and... we deserve to die. -Budd, Kill Bill
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
Justin says: If they know you're trying to shake them, that alerts them and eliminates any opportunity you might have otherwise had to feed them misinformation in the future. That's when you strap on the C-4 vest. Zombie Monger
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
At 10:01 AM -0800 3/1/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: (What was that Brit town sacrificed so the Germans wouldn't know the codes were broken? Starts with C...) Coventry... Ancient cathedral, etc... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)
Justin says: If they know you're trying to shake them, that alerts them and eliminates any opportunity you might have otherwise had to feed them misinformation in the future. That's when you strap on the C-4 vest. Zombie Monger
