Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine
Tim May wimps out: > Normally I vote Libertarian. This year I may vote for Bush as a vote > for who will do me, us, and the Constitution the lesser damage of the > two. (All voting is about bang for the buck, about effectiveness of a > vote...an election is not about "voting for the best man," it is > instead about minimizing damage.) Spoken like a true simp-wimp. A vote for *either* algore or gwbush is a direct vote for the New World Order. No ifs, ands, or buts. They are both trilateralists, scumbag bush even went the same Skull&Bones route his father did, his grandfather did, etc. There is no difference, Nader is right, it's TweedleDum & TweedleDee, Dumb & Dumber. Vote Nader -- at least he's honest. And don't give us all that horseshit about Nader=commutarian. Just because he's pro-labor and anti- megacorp doesn't make him a socialist, or commu-anything. You've shown your true colors, Tim -- you're just a simp-wimp under the skin. Vote for Bush and the NWO, commieboy.
Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
G.W.Bush is mentally negligible. He's fully capable of linking Scooby Doo to the Columbine Massacre. And while right-wingers just attack the BOR from a different angle than left-wingers, Bush **may** be the minimal damage choice this time around. It's not a pretty picture.
Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
At 12:14 PM -0500 10/12/00, Jim Burnes wrote: >On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Tim May wrote: > >> >> Normally I vote Libertarian. This year I may vote for Bush as a vote >> for who will do me, us, and the Constitution the lesser damage of the >> two. (All voting is about bang for the buck, about effectiveness of a >> vote...an election is not about "voting for the best man," it is >> instead about minimizing damage.) >> >> >> --Tim May > >Actually, your vote should be about getting what you want, not what >you don't want. The quickest way to do that now is to consistently vote >for the worst possible candidate. Possibly. All votes are about "cost/benefit" issues. The cost of voting, the benefits of voting, and further subdivided into the benefits of voting for various candidates. In most cases, the costs of voting exceed any expected benefits. Merely travelling to a polling place and spending half an hour or so voting is a cost greater than the benefits. Spending tens of hours watching news coverage of the election process is in a different league of wasted effort altogether. --Tim May -- -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
Let me see if I understand this. It's okay to blame the Net for Columbine as long as you don't call for licensing. So it's OK to blame gunshows for gun murders as long as you don't call for licensing? Right? MacN PS: What part of this debate/discussion was *not* very small, and inconsequential? M On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Tim May wrote: > > This was a very small, and inconsequential, part of the debate/discussion. > > Had George Bush called for _Internet licensing_ in some concrete way, > comparable to the way Al Gore called for gun licensing, I would be > more concerned about Bush's comments. But he did not. > > Throwing in a line about the Columbine creeps being influenced by the > Internet (or by Quake and Doom and other games, or by "The Matrix," > or by being spoiled suburban brats) is not the same as calling for > unconstitutional abridgments of freedoms. > > Normally I vote Libertarian. This year I may vote for Bush as a vote > for who will do me, us, and the Constitution the lesser damage of the > two. (All voting is about bang for the buck, about effectiveness of a > vote...an election is not about "voting for the best man," it is > instead about minimizing damage.) > > > --Tim May > > > -- > -:-:-:-:-:-:-: > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments. > >
Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
Tim May wrote: > Throwing in a line about the Columbine creeps being influenced by the > Internet (or by Quake and Doom and other games, or by "The Matrix," > or by being spoiled suburban brats) is not the same as calling for > unconstitutional abridgments of freedoms. I don't recall hearing that the football team was influenced by the Internet or the rest. -- Steve Furlong, Computer Condottiere Have GNU, will travel 518-374-4720 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
At 11:20 PM -0400 10/11/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/0326212&mode=nested > >Bush Links Columbine Massacre to Internet Use >posted by cicero on Wednesday October 11, @10:25PM >from the sounds-a-lot-like-joseph-lieberman dept. > >George W. Bush may have bested Al Gore in tonight's presidential >debate, but it sure wasn't because of the governor's tech-savviness. >Warned the Texas Republican, in response to a gun-control question: >"Columbine spoke to a larger issue, and it's really a matter of >culture. It's a culture that somewhere along the line we begun to >disrespect life, where a child can walk in and have their heart >turn dark as a result of being on the Internet and walk in and >decide to take somebody else's life." It was undeniably a good, >mushy, appeal-to-the-softhearted line, but the sheer schmaltziness of >it is in questionable taste. For instance: Was the Net really to >blame? Shouldn't even a "compassionate conservative" want to hold >miscreants responsible for their own actions? And would the guv have >offered the same warning to millions of Americans if the Columbine >killers had, say, been regulars at the public library? > >Transcript is at: >http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/0326212&mode=nested This was a very small, and inconsequential, part of the debate/discussion. Had George Bush called for _Internet licensing_ in some concrete way, comparable to the way Al Gore called for gun licensing, I would be more concerned about Bush's comments. But he did not. Throwing in a line about the Columbine creeps being influenced by the Internet (or by Quake and Doom and other games, or by "The Matrix," or by being spoiled suburban brats) is not the same as calling for unconstitutional abridgments of freedoms. Normally I vote Libertarian. This year I may vote for Bush as a vote for who will do me, us, and the Constitution the lesser damage of the two. (All voting is about bang for the buck, about effectiveness of a vote...an election is not about "voting for the best man," it is instead about minimizing damage.) --Tim May -- -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Gov. Bush links Columbine massacre to Internet use
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/0326212&mode=nested Bush Links Columbine Massacre to Internet Use posted by cicero on Wednesday October 11, @10:25PM from the sounds-a-lot-like-joseph-lieberman dept. George W. Bush may have bested Al Gore in tonight's presidential debate, but it sure wasn't because of the governor's tech-savviness. Warned the Texas Republican, in response to a gun-control question: "Columbine spoke to a larger issue, and it's really a matter of culture. It's a culture that somewhere along the line we begun to disrespect life, where a child can walk in and have their heart turn dark as a result of being on the Internet and walk in and decide to take somebody else's life." It was undeniably a good, mushy, appeal-to-the-softhearted line, but the sheer schmaltziness of it is in questionable taste. For instance: Was the Net really to blame? Shouldn't even a "compassionate conservative" want to hold miscreants responsible for their own actions? And would the guv have offered the same warning to millions of Americans if the Columbine killers had, say, been regulars at the public library? Transcript is at: http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/0326212&mode=nested
