Re: Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

2003-06-20 Thread Tim May
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 03:10  PM, Steve Furlong wrote:

On Friday 20 June 2003 17:42, James A. Donald wrote:

Watching MSNBC, one would have thought that the US was in for a
Stalingrad style battle for Baghdad, at a time when Fox
accurately reported that resistance had collapsed.
Gulf War I made CNN a major player. The other news stations were hoping
to ride Gulf War II, but it ended before they could turn a profit. No
wonder they're pissed.
I was around and subscribing to CNN during Oil War I. CNN did not 
profit from advertising, but from reputation. Not because their news 
team was especially great, but because CBS, NBC, and ABC were running 
"Wheel of Fortune" and "Entertainment Tonight" precisely when many 
Americans wanted to see what was happening. Those who did not already 
have cable sought it out.

Oil War II was not much different in coverage, despite the silly 
"embedded reporters." The difference was that most households now have 
access to cable or satellite, and having CNN and Fox and MSNBC is no 
longer a big deal.

--Tim May
"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, 
my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists."  --John 
Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General



Re: Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

2003-06-20 Thread Steve Furlong
On Friday 20 June 2003 17:42, James A. Donald wrote:

> Watching MSNBC, one would have thought that the US was in for a
> Stalingrad style battle for Baghdad, at a time when Fox
> accurately reported that resistance had collapsed.

Gulf War I made CNN a major player. The other news stations were hoping 
to ride Gulf War II, but it ended before they could turn a profit. No 
wonder they're pissed.

-- 
Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere   Have GNU, Will Travel

"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using
their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that
these people have these weapons at all!"  -- Rep. Henry Waxman



Re: Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

2003-06-20 Thread James A. Donald
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On 20 Jun 2003 at 16:28, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
> Yesterday I caught Keith Olberman's show on MSNBC when he was 
> announcing that Fox News will be hiring Dennis Miller for
> occasional guest commentaries.  Keith Olberman is known for
> his funny quips, but yesterday he did a drop-dead hilarious
> impression of an extended Dennis Miller rant.  Only this
> time, it was Keith Olberman ranting against Fox's "We decide,
> you obey" reporting style.  The writing and delivery were
> perfect, and he really hit his target.

MSNBC got full of rage against Fox, when Fox's reporting of the
war turned out to be accurate, while MSNBC turned out to be
wildly inaccurate.

Watching MSNBC, one would have thought that the US was in for a
Stalingrad style battle for Baghdad, at a time when Fox
accurately reported that resistance had collapsed. 

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Re: Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

2003-06-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
... Another CNN guy, Aaron Brown, is actually refreshing in his 
laidback,
Charles Kuralt-style slow examination of an issue...I ought to Tivo his
show.)
Yesterday I caught Keith Olberman's show on MSNBC when he was 
announcing that Fox News will be hiring Dennis Miller for occasional 
guest commentaries.  Keith Olberman is known for his funny quips, but 
yesterday he did a drop-dead hilarious impression of an extended Dennis 
Miller rant.  Only this time, it was Keith Olberman ranting against 
Fox's "We decide, you obey" reporting style.  The writing and delivery 
were perfect, and he really hit his target.

I've nearly boycotted TV news lately, so that was the first time I've 
seen his show.  I'll Tivo it for entertainment value if nothing else.

-- Patrick



Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

2003-06-19 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 11:17  AM, Sampo Syreeni wrote:

On 2003-06-19, R. A. Hettinga uttered to Clippable:

The detainees are in this country illegally, their co-religionists had
just slaughtered thousands of Americans, and the Times is dismayed,
perplexed, angry and shocked that some of them may have been 
subjected to
the sort of manhandling that occurs in the hallways of middle schools
throughout the nation.
Ah, yes, now I understand: in Coulter's Land of the Normal, rape is
perfectly fine because, after all, children *are* molested. I guess she
would also be perfectly happy at being manhandled by the local Muslim
community for coreligionism with Shrub.
Somehow I don't think I need to buy her book. I no longer see what the
lies could possibly have been.
Coulter is an ultra-skinny (pretty to some men, not to me--if she were 
a male she'd be Iggy Pop at his most skinny--see note) loudmouthed 
fascist. Like many who have become talking heads on t.v., she excels at 
interrupting and completely ignoring the points made by others. (Not 
that I am necessarily different, but I am not supposedly engaged in a 
debate with another. Nor am I on television, thankfully for me and 
thee.)

(Note: If there were no lawyers suing people for their opinions, I'd 
opine that Anne Coulter has the physical characteristics and the 
fast-talking patter of a speed freak, a meth addict, a crystalhead, 
which could explain a lot about Anne Coulter. But lawyers are 
everywhere, and googling for names, so I won't opine.)

Coulter had a quotable line which shows just how much of a statist she 
is: "We should invade their country, take their oil, and convert them 
to Christianity." (Or words to this effect...exact quote can be 
googled.)

I stopped watching most of the networks for news during the War of 
Aggression in Iraq. When I occasionally land on CNN or Fox or MSNBC I 
am disgusted by the repeated teases for upcoming stories (sometimes the 
minutes devoted to the several teases exceed the length of the story 
when it finally appears), by the loudmouthed brayings, and by the short 
attention spans (a guy named "Anderson Cooper" is the worst on CNN, at 
least. He almost never lets a guest finish a thought. And his 
interruptions are banal, not useful as some interruptions can be. 
Another CNN guy, Aaron Brown, is actually refreshing in his laidback, 
Charles Kuralt-style slow examination of an issue...I ought to Tivo his 
show.)

But Anne Coulter is a complete jackass. She's not even a "neocon" in 
the good sense.
Just another statist.

--Tim May
"That government is best which governs not at all." --Henry David 
Thoreau