RE: White House Sounds Call For New Internet Standards

2002-08-01 Thread Lucky Green

Steve wrote:
 The Bush administration's cyber security czar, Richard 
 Clarke, said it might be time to replace the creaky, cranky 
 20-year-old protocols that drive the Internet with standards 
 better able to accommodate a flood of new wireless devices. 
 Wireless devices, it is feared, may introduce large security 
 holes to the network. The White House is working with the 
 private sector to draft a national plan to secure the 
 country's most vital computer networks from cyber attack.

How about IPv6 with IPSEC?

--Lucky




RE: White House Sounds Call For New Internet Standards

2002-08-01 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Lucky Green wrote:

  Clarke, said it might be time to replace the creaky, cranky 
  20-year-old protocols that drive the Internet with standards 
  better able to accommodate a flood of new wireless devices. 
  Wireless devices, it is feared, may introduce large security 
  holes to the network. The White House is working with the 
  private sector to draft a national plan to secure the 
  country's most vital computer networks from cyber attack.
 
 How about IPv6 with IPSEC?

Wireless is the canonical case for geographic routing. Addresses as static
or dynamic positions in space (either mutual time of flight or deriving
refinable position from connection constraints), packet routing as the
crow flies, local-knowledge routing tables that only know about a few km
space around you, almost no admin traffic. Plus, routing logic thin enough
to fit into deep embedded footprint, or be cast in hardware for
relativistic speed cut-through.

IPv6 can't handle most this, especially on the scale required. There's
point in going IPv6, but at the same time one must be aware that this is
just a patch, not a fix.




RE: White House Sounds Call For New Internet Standards

2002-08-01 Thread Duncan Frissell

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Lucky Green wrote:


 How about IPv6 with IPSEC?

 --Lucky


Isn't that a creaky, cranky 10-year-old protocol?

DCF