RFID driver's licenses?
A friend of mine is expressing concern over the recently passed REAL ID act which will supposedly require RFID-readable driver's licenses (which it doesn't say in the text of the bill which just makes a vague reference to "machine-readable technology".) My questions are: 1. Have any states already implemented RFID-readable IDs/licenses? 2. If not, which states plan to?
Re: RFID Driver's licenses for VA
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 12:03, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > When you get your driver's license, you should run a magnet over > it to keep iron oxides from staining your wallet. And apparently > you should now microwave it to clean those DMV-employee pathogens > from it. Then it will be safe to carry, and you can see for yourself > what it tells > everyone else ---part of the definition of safety. And rub that funny black and white smudge thing with nail polish remover -- looks like someone with wet nail polish was handling the card, and you don't want that smudge to cover up whatever was written under it.
Re: RFID Driver's licenses for VA
At 10:57 PM 10/8/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >>At 04:35 PM 10/7/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >>A defense is a metal board in a wallet, close to the RFID chip's antenna. >>It is readable when the licence is taken out of the wallet. When inside, >>the antenna is quite effectively shielded. > >Tinfoil Wallets, anybody? :-) When you get your driver's license, you should run a magnet over it to keep iron oxides from staining your wallet. And apparently you should now microwave it to clean those DMV-employee pathogens from it. Then it will be safe to carry, and you can see for yourself what it tells everyone else ---part of the definition of safety.
Re: RFID Driver's licenses for VA
Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tinfoil Wallets, anybody? :-) My wallet is a metal cigarette case. It's quite effective at blocking RFID, proxcards, &c. Plus, it's chic enough that almost no one considers the paranoia aspect. -- Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFID Driver's licenses for VA
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Sunder wrote: > So the cops and RFID h4x0rZ can know your true name from a distance. and > since RFID tags, are what, $0.05 each, the terrorists and ID > counterfitters will be able to make fake ones too... Whee! At 04:35 PM 10/7/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: A defense is a metal board in a wallet, close to the RFID chip's antenna. It is readable when the licence is taken out of the wallet. When inside, the antenna is quite effectively shielded. Tinfoil Wallets, anybody? :-) Actually, does anybody know if metallized mylar would do a good job of blocking RFID readers, or if that carbon-fiber insulating cloth that's useful for RF-shielded rooms would work well enough? Also sounds like a good reason to carry a Rivest RFID blocker in your wallet. Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFID Driver's licenses for VA
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Sunder wrote: > So the cops and RFID h4x0rZ can know your true name from a distance. and > since RFID tags, are what, $0.05 each, the terrorists and ID > counterfitters will be able to make fake ones too... Whee! Given the power requirements for doing anything more than dumb sequence repeat, I'd worry about the potential for replay attack and licence cloning. Make a proof-of-concept device early after they start rolling the scheme out, publish on Slashdot, and see them retracting it as fast as they were deploying it. A defense is a metal board in a wallet, close to the RFID chip's antenna. It is readable when the licence is taken out of the wallet. When inside, the antenna is quite effectively shielded. As a bonus, for many people this method can be seamlessly integrated to their mode of the document usage (leaving the privacy implications of the "legitimate" readers aside for now, talking about the unauthorized remote readers only here).
RFID Driver's licenses for VA
So the cops and RFID h4x0rZ can know your true name from a distance. and since RFID tags, are what, $0.05 each, the terrorists and ID counterfitters will be able to make fake ones too... Whee! http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,65243,00.html RFID Driver's Licenses Debated By Mark Baard Story location: http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,65243,00.html 09:50 AM Oct. 06, 2004 PT Some federal and state government officials want to make state driver's licenses harder to counterfeit or steal, by adding computer chips that emit a radio signal bearing a license holder's unique, personal information. In Virginia, where several of the 9/11 hijackers obtained driver's licenses, state legislators Wednesday will hear testimony about how radio frequency identification, or RFID, tags may prevent identity fraud and help thwart terrorists using falsified documents to move about the country. Privacy advocates will argue that the radio tags will also make it easy for the government to spy on its citizens and exacerbate identity theft, one of the problems the technology is meant to relieve. Because information on RFID tags can be picked up from many feet away, --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ <--*-->:and our people, and neither do we." -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + :War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. -