Re: Courts interfering with election
At 10:10 PM 11/7/00 -0500, David Honig wrote: >At 09:31 PM 11/7/00 -0500, Tim May wrote: >If they work hours such > >that they cannot be at the polling places during these hours, they > >obtain absentee ballots. Or they take personal time off of work. Or > >they go in an hour later. Etc. > >California is reported to have 20% absentee ballots, see the latimes.com Oregon has vote by mail. (Fun watching both of the major parties spending *LOTS* of time here when large numbers of people had already sent in their ballots.) One of the more interesting ballot measures in Oregon would require the government to have a conviction before being able to seize property. The arguments against are pretty interesting. The first set in the voter's pamphlet is from the Humane Society claiming that the measure would "harm animals". (When you can use the "Its for the chilldddreeennn" argument, hurting animals is the next best thing. Reminds me of the National Lampoon cover with the dog with the gun to his head. "Vote NO on measure 3 or the dog dies!") --- | Terrorists - The Boogiemen for a new Millennium. | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | | | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
Re: Courts interfering with election
At 10:10 PM -0500 11/7/00, David Honig wrote: >At 09:31 PM 11/7/00 -0500, Tim May wrote: >If they work hours such >>that they cannot be at the polling places during these hours, they >>obtain absentee ballots. Or they take personal time off of work. Or >>they go in an hour later. Etc. > >California is reported to have 20% absentee ballots, see the latimes.com Exactly. There are _many_ ways to vote. The polls are open for 13 hours, 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Claims that "working people" can't get to the polls are ludicrous. If anything, in fact, it's the Silicon Valley programmer who may have a hard time getting away from the office during those hours. In any case, the claim that St. Louis needed to have its polling hours extended into the late evening because Latisha LaFonda was incorrectly registered and couldn't vote at 10 _a.m._ is what makes it all so ludicrous. "We want the polling places to be open until at least 2:30 a.m. a half hour after the bars close. We gots to be thinkin' 'bout our con-stit-a-ents!" --Tim May -- -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Re: Courts interfering with election
At 09:31 PM 11/7/00 -0500, Tim May wrote: If they work hours such >that they cannot be at the polling places during these hours, they >obtain absentee ballots. Or they take personal time off of work. Or >they go in an hour later. Etc. California is reported to have 20% absentee ballots, see the latimes.com
Re: Courts interfering with election
Well, dont wory you all, appellate court just overruled that ruling. Polls are closed in Ohio. What happens to that vote? Who knows, not me! -The Joke Slayer (MaxInux) http://www.JokeSlayer.com
Re: Courts interfering with election
At 9:32 PM -0500 11/7/00, Harmon Seaver wrote: > The real question is why weren't there enough polls to take >care of the number of people who want to vote -- it's not just St. >Louis, the same thing is happening in many places. In most states, >however, the polls are just staying open. If you have a line of people >waiting to vote, how dare they close the polls? The people should take >the polling officials outside and hang them from the nearest lamppost if >they try to close the polls. And what is wrong with simply closing the lines at the closing time. Put a cop or other official at the end of the line and say: "You arrived at 8:01. Polls are closed. Everyone ahead of you will be allowed in to vote, but you are too late." --Tim May -- -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Re: Courts interfering with election
The real question is why weren't there enough polls to take care of the number of people who want to vote -- it's not just St. Louis, the same thing is happening in many places. In most states, however, the polls are just staying open. If you have a line of people waiting to vote, how dare they close the polls? The people should take the polling officials outside and hang them from the nearest lamppost if they try to close the polls. Not providing enough places to vote is on the same par as requiring a poll tax or any of the other criminally enacted laws designed to frustrate voters.
