Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

2001-08-04 Thread Nomen Nescio

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Subject: Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

Declan McCullagh wrote:
 Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?...
 I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable
 future. Sigh.

I certainly hope so.  Messages like this move you closer to my
procmail file, even though you're often worth reading.  You're as easy
to deal with as Jim, if you persist on mixing your online persona with
his.




Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

2001-08-04 Thread Declan McCullagh

Unfortunately for your inbox, and fortunately, perhaps, for the
continued viability of procmail, I have no intention of changing my
interactions with Choate or others based on your personal preferences.

-Declan


On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 11:50:28PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
 
 Declan McCullagh wrote:
  Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?...
  I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable
  future. Sigh.
 
 I certainly hope so.  Messages like this move you closer to my
 procmail file, even though you're often worth reading.  You're as easy
 to deal with as Jim, if you persist on mixing your online persona with
 his.




Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

2001-08-03 Thread Declan McCullagh

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:31:05AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
 I don't see anyone clamoring that Tim's copyrights are being violated 
 when his articles are bounced around the Net in the same way I see 
 _some_ people yammering that Declan's and Wired Online's copyrights 
 are being violated when _his_ articles are being bounced around. The 
 issue is not that some outlets charge money, as most clearly don't. 

This is true, but the reason is that when you post somethin to
cypherpunks, you're essentially giving an implied license to
redistribute (and archive, etc). Same with Usenet. 

When I write something for Wired.com, we don't offer that implied
license.

 Nothing against Declan or Wired Online, of course. Just noting that 
 once again there seems to be a special status for Official Reporters, 
 Official Publishers, Official Writers. Official Reporters are covered 
 by Shield Laws, ordinary reporters are not. Official Publishers have 
 law professors bemoaning violations of copyright, and so on.

I've never argued for official reporter priv (though I have it,
naturally). I've even pissed off many of my fellow reporters arguing
at a Freedom Forum event a while back that the government is already
licensing reporters who apply for congressional press credentials.

It's more a question of social norms in this case. If you post rants
at timmay.com and slap a coypright notice and some ads up and
explicitly ask that they not be redistributed -- well, then you'll
soon find that people treat you pretty close to the way they treat
Wired.

-Declan




Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

2001-08-03 Thread Declan McCullagh

Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?

1. I've already read Brad's essay years ago
2. I have a lot of respect for Brad but he wrote this from his
Clarinet perspective and I don't entirely agree with it
3. In any case, it does not disagree with what I wrote

I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the
foreseeable future. Sigh.

-Declan


On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 12:18:53AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
 On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 
  This is true, but the reason is that when you post somethin to
  cypherpunks, you're essentially giving an implied license to
  redistribute (and archive, etc). Same with Usenet. 
 
 Bullshit.
 
 http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
 
 In particular #3.
 
 
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RE: Official Reporters have more copyright rights

2001-08-01 Thread jamesd

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On 1 Aug 2001, at 14:33, Trei, Peter wrote:
 No, Adobe did not use ROT13. They were quite a bit better than that

Not significantly better.  Same basic algorithm and weakness as 
ROT13

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