Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights Declan McCullagh wrote: Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?... I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable future. Sigh. I certainly hope so. Messages like this move you closer to my procmail file, even though you're often worth reading. You're as easy to deal with as Jim, if you persist on mixing your online persona with his.
Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
Unfortunately for your inbox, and fortunately, perhaps, for the continued viability of procmail, I have no intention of changing my interactions with Choate or others based on your personal preferences. -Declan On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 11:50:28PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights Declan McCullagh wrote: Why did I ever deprocmail Choate?... I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable future. Sigh. I certainly hope so. Messages like this move you closer to my procmail file, even though you're often worth reading. You're as easy to deal with as Jim, if you persist on mixing your online persona with his.
Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:31:05AM -0700, Tim May wrote: I don't see anyone clamoring that Tim's copyrights are being violated when his articles are bounced around the Net in the same way I see _some_ people yammering that Declan's and Wired Online's copyrights are being violated when _his_ articles are being bounced around. The issue is not that some outlets charge money, as most clearly don't. This is true, but the reason is that when you post somethin to cypherpunks, you're essentially giving an implied license to redistribute (and archive, etc). Same with Usenet. When I write something for Wired.com, we don't offer that implied license. Nothing against Declan or Wired Online, of course. Just noting that once again there seems to be a special status for Official Reporters, Official Publishers, Official Writers. Official Reporters are covered by Shield Laws, ordinary reporters are not. Official Publishers have law professors bemoaning violations of copyright, and so on. I've never argued for official reporter priv (though I have it, naturally). I've even pissed off many of my fellow reporters arguing at a Freedom Forum event a while back that the government is already licensing reporters who apply for congressional press credentials. It's more a question of social norms in this case. If you post rants at timmay.com and slap a coypright notice and some ads up and explicitly ask that they not be redistributed -- well, then you'll soon find that people treat you pretty close to the way they treat Wired. -Declan
Re: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
Why did I ever deprocmail Choate? 1. I've already read Brad's essay years ago 2. I have a lot of respect for Brad but he wrote this from his Clarinet perspective and I don't entirely agree with it 3. In any case, it does not disagree with what I wrote I expect this will be my only response to Choate in the foreseeable future. Sigh. -Declan On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 12:18:53AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: This is true, but the reason is that when you post somethin to cypherpunks, you're essentially giving an implied license to redistribute (and archive, etc). Same with Usenet. Bullshit. http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html In particular #3. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
RE: Official Reporters have more copyright rights
-- On 1 Aug 2001, at 14:33, Trei, Peter wrote: No, Adobe did not use ROT13. They were quite a bit better than that Not significantly better. Same basic algorithm and weakness as ROT13 --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG n1bw14u4EICHhLIXuQsgDkABk92eCgbzm21yq7oH 4YcYWFe5f0mJBfMBkxqXtnasjxrzT2edzX05C7TLq