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This is the sixth release candidate for the 0.1.0.x series. This is an Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long? Note that I am not trying to be a bitch or troll, but I am on this mailing list to follow the hacker culture and developments in privacy issues and Internet technology, not to learn about all kinds of tangential announcements. Could someone bring me up to speed, please? This is not flamebait. Really not. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid/expired pgp subkeys? use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] he gave me his card he said, 'call me if they die' i shook his hand and said goodbye ran out to the street when a bowling ball came down the road and knocked me off my feet -- bob dylan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Mon, 16 May 2005, martin f krafft wrote: Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long? Well, lets see. I suppose I could answer either way: Yes, we care, and no we don't. They are both true. Note that I am not trying to be a bitch or troll, but I am on this mailing list to follow the hacker culture Then what the fuck are you doing *here*? and developments in privacy issues and Internet technology, not to learn about all kinds of tangential announcements. Then you are in the wrong fucking place buddy. This is cpunks: Information wants to be free and all that. Anything is postable, nothing turned away, even trolls like you are welcome additions. Could someone bring me up to speed, please? Done. This is not flamebait. Really not. Then maybe you should reconsider where you hang your virtual hat a little more carefully in the future. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF That bitch needs to learn proper Road Rage Etiquitte. Never give up. Me on 14 April 05, on I270, doing about 90mph and realizing the girl I had been toying with for the last 20 miles had decided safer was better than.
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On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:07 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: This is the sixth release candidate for the 0.1.0.x series. This is an Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long? This is actually a release announcement for Tor 0.1.0.0-rc6 that was not labeled as such, posted through the randseed Mixmaster remailer. To the schmuck that posted the original: make it clearer next time, with a clear subject line. -- Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.05.16.1627 +0200]: and developments in privacy issues and Internet technology, not to learn about all kinds of tangential announcements. Then you are in the wrong fucking place buddy. This is cpunks: Information wants to be free and all that. Anything is postable, nothing turned away, even trolls like you are welcome additions. Interesting... this is not how I remembered it. Anyway, I apologise, and I apologise to Stephen Wolfram for the private message sent along those lines. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid/expired pgp subkeys? use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] friendships last when each friend thinks he has a slight superiority over the other. -- honoré de balzac signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.05.16.1924 +0200]: Interesting... this is not how I remembered it. ... I had been subscribed to the moderated minder.net list in the past... this explains :) Again, sorry, also for the noise. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid/expired pgp subkeys? use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i am occasionally a little overdressed, i make up for it by being always immensely over-educated. -- oscar wilde signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Mon, 16 May 2005, martin f krafft wrote: Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long? Well, lets see. I suppose I could answer either way: Yes, we care, and no we don't. They are both true. Note that I am not trying to be a bitch or troll, but I am on this mailing list to follow the hacker culture Then what the fuck are you doing *here*? and developments in privacy issues and Internet technology, not to learn about all kinds of tangential announcements. Then you are in the wrong fucking place buddy. This is cpunks: Information wants to be free and all that. Anything is postable, nothing turned away, even trolls like you are welcome additions. Could someone bring me up to speed, please? Done. This is not flamebait. Really not. Then maybe you should reconsider where you hang your virtual hat a little more carefully in the future. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF That bitch needs to learn proper Road Rage Etiquitte. Never give up. Me on 14 April 05, on I270, doing about 90mph and realizing the girl I had been toying with for the last 20 miles had decided safer was better than.
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On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 15:07 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: This is the sixth release candidate for the 0.1.0.x series. This is an Did I miss some development or why exactly does cypherpunks care about a release candidate of libevent (or Wolfram's New Kind of Science for that matter)? Was I frozen for that long? This is actually a release announcement for Tor 0.1.0.0-rc6 that was not labeled as such, posted through the randseed Mixmaster remailer. To the schmuck that posted the original: make it clearer next time, with a clear subject line. -- Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.05.16.1924 +0200]: Interesting... this is not how I remembered it. ... I had been subscribed to the moderated minder.net list in the past... this explains :) Again, sorry, also for the noise. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid/expired pgp subkeys? use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i am occasionally a little overdressed, i make up for it by being always immensely over-educated. -- oscar wilde signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, 30 May 2002, Natalia wrote: QUIT More specific please? Quit diddling my data? Quit typing so loud after 10:00pm? Quit my job??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
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On Thu, 30 May 2002, Natalia wrote: QUIT More specific please? Quit diddling my data? Quit typing so loud after 10:00pm? Quit my job??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
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Pawe3 Krawczyk wrote: In this paper we study the security of such ciphers under an additional hypothesis: the S-box can be described by an overdefined system of algebraic equations (true with probability 1). We show that this hypothesis is true for both Serpent (due to a small size of S-boxes) and Rijndael (due to unexpected algebraic properties). They claim an attack on 256-bit Rijndael and 192 and 256 bit Serpent. This is a bit ironic, since Serpent's big claim previously was that it exchanged some performance loss for better security, which turns out not to be the case. -Bram Cohen Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent -- John Maynard Keynes
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Pawe3 Krawczyk wrote: In this paper we study the security of such ciphers under an additional hypothesis: the S-box can be described by an overdefined system of algebraic equations (true with probability 1). We show that this hypothesis is true for both Serpent (due to a small size of S-boxes) and Rijndael (due to unexpected algebraic properties). They claim an attack on 256-bit Rijndael and 192 and 256 bit Serpent. This is a bit ironic, since Serpent's big claim previously was that it exchanged some performance loss for better security, which turns out not to be the case. -Bram Cohen Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent -- John Maynard Keynes
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, cubic-dog wrote: Do you have a cigarette? All I have are menthols. Yes I have three. But all of them are wet. The purple parrot in the green suit says to ask Bill Clinton for Monica flavored cigars. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My nose bleeds when she is too cold for a beer in the beach. Big puppies wear small shoes. -- The dot.GOD Registry, Limited http://www.dot-god.com/
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Do you have a cigarette? All I have are menthols.
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My nose bleeds when she is too cold for a beer in the beach. The country of Antigua trusts in the morals and discretion of all the citizens who choose to do business there. We understand that it is difficult to allow legal council to review all correspondence for possible collision with any given regime around the globe. At the same time, however, we must ask you to please limit your conversations in a way that makes less interesting your business operations. Thank you.
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http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr It's a mailing list focused on cryptography, civil liberties, economics. On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, geeta jagasia wrote: send me details to my email [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com
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It worked. The risk is not that experts will be fooled. They can scroll through the headers and figure things out. The risk is that the message will have a Message-ID: that includes faa.gov and some Received: lines will include faa.gov. Would make me do a double-take. -Declan On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:52:04AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is Joe baptista using the open email replay at faa.gov to prove a point. 1) is this an open relay. 2) can faa.gov messages be forged through this open relay? thats all folks.
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Very nice, but which keys am I supposed to use? On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, CDR Anonymizer wrote: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org hQEOA7eGrVlAnPGIEAQAgD428/qDkZgKwNq4JcGRWCHQtVxbEfTZ/I531ozWLW6G FN2le5DH82H41YBvHUH/csijy6HVNKXJ4WFGNxUg4lUDVVtsFRhfKYNjaeZUbQai G/4o6eh5Loa/TBV9SQcj8xeR/I7EOvdMCI498U7TOQZ5rIebj4NB8ltZsAp88OoD /jokNvz/M0gpXaOiZaxZb8ipsU+GyHnY8XDWwL5kEPbyhkYfw/9BX8+trV9JVuk/ 5k7HVkdcsx2pDDQfKqbsV1qRScpNVH1PrQ5UX0ildpHKlMEDzsPVvW3Z8J7oeBAH Q88OjTJOhKycncv227HQIt4GhSYwaiE4xQUW0xsKFpexhQIMAyYXnrcAm6cdAQ/+ P6X6O/WEV2FABK0xELKTJDkQ4qZmoijUlixQ4xBPQJMxltF9eDjXMqja43cqazMV KJ6vQqHXEA3IHOw3zP/64cMh3jbWTZAp+gkqz7g8Owt3Hf6qPbWSOVnuvvmB7jT4 Eqb9dj0s8S+QKaEfJPHevG/hZwFM86k911nyqAzofhXniRSfwdQXvsIag3eWZV1w IGlmXCIBqct/qfUbqqwqR7ykc7jUzdZ6IkpvcmzFx490Oha/Etdi1cdVRXgYYA08 nXpUvqzaZsPACRkvN+veQSppWjyVhYu2Dq66/Y+5RLgkoJxzRcHE0K4wrKj8cn1n PjyQARH4f4BdDao+YMa6NVioul2HzaF1Z41rRRJneemKxvUHc3kpSu8gHwB5jjo6 EQnLZzxLKgBM0x6Sp4K1JYtNsAw9oxZT/LFoWn0RT3s4Ok9p4TxtFnaMe8edf0mK FzNtZjBFmInfxjhmlpRF4P6rp+ojLYV18SOg/4e3VXA/lEynHP05KLKmTDrhRiJ4 /igjhLZY1rw8sKzyAKnNLC9YhWdj3RCbyPaTU92u4pmfVGqtAK2pUcM19+JjpN7Q RnaSqbtw0F/uQn/aoctB65BPylECCGsV2cOs2aKWkNuUETARg0IXq3damt1CHGB6 jX2guamN14p2FYzapvKq3Htb0pqMtVcQVjsFbyx5DL/J68SDuNmKBK/uWc8iVvrz QukvjfCpW0xzH9EbKRTxU33na4r8P5lMsTHcLXSNxP2E8t07hvkwku9ldbFrADX+ 2IQ7QwhUsEUuUASudGaz9vYiRLYUHeZoXtHZUR0gMZf7ldbtfaD9iu8wQeRBEquG 1/eJBGYwQKVdT+mi4mjcckphJvgmuvrRcRwJNp7EzNu+DFniLqh6QxrontVrEZZE x1Y3Q7ug1U/PelEWspN5haFGpr4B4gOavlCdha92z611/UBDVIHUCwakY0tbtYVm 0YEdTh0601HTBnBPeuVNjrsuxtsZVNQlM2m4SS7cQMLzSV/wLJ2xxYeRG3XdrT9Z LeUzNNknin/JaRFEngXoSZOgRdEukZrMOfCB8UDjwSM4UKZLhYgrBQfdjvFfzb3M wNcNXwVTgA71Squg63RHkr7oMGc3gTyRryO3FU1Kq8JjRF0oCuZdaXl44PmwEt1t kmeHSTcha5OANo5mA3iMNMp584AkrvAxX8wRJrIoVdXzVeHxVQ0EnMYbEAY+G2Ze xv7PUVr/T80n5kM3ekQPprNljLyasjWDI3oDk8Cf0Ev2Dgttmqazk3n+O1pXmVwC wsLh3y5i/JYiHt5SCm04fONDbe9nOVBkpXJO7ni/LrHA52x5QDCYaRS3qvysMtz0 iCXpCZVKvwMqENDrj7ba/CRNZT/aoPdzoUUk6Yh2U6ki5lqfvEpxurluQi4RSJ5e SolJj8foLymRWfIU2JgmfPK3HqLKVL+82587FK5CGlXWX2hLbYWgA80tmq9IHe7E 14pxCj8UW65y1dzLGera2TpVutcmP8Iff7mF2HSNiE0foaXo5x8VdLGU9VmeLoe3 gfbJOVDz4qpcjPMlsplnCZk1YKkDBrjGo3Q3ugJl3G6t2D217wBDpEbUSbQU6fsV Zbs9aaOpABY0HFjnKsEGH5ehMiwMp6+XZV/PliMXuKS64uFHimcmPC9UiA+pLk3P d6VeSTuIJMBSj7GxUi/A2QLZbVsAkF6CYLICLdp26CzfvKA3d8Bx5VtrBQoC/r8z gp4msALkINMfAALd+SPamkM5VuMUddBWBnbA6czRMUYUyxsPgjqq10b3hcB8T1WO Brq5Hu6HCCZVliwApyz3swkotWl7m41QHusT3iCc5keSiPMxSDfT+bYIRewvLEZE I1IutfnBPXhlW7TI/cI1vFYk5oxVVsfOtF86pbHBkY+dZKTb+HrGbeYkxnf+T2EQ Sb+GakIHegckV2+cNkKhgdKqc6rd5JXQK693884z1P9waRPUjPL3GwongvqoGRG9 Jlbva1ONwhdA/+yac8d88V0BMqxFqxZO8qMrKl7m2qJK/o48GVIsewzIemRxkNsd JkcnA2miy4H+jonvAqDammmREsqvjUbZFib8HBwCgpL/XUakmRIx85TCX/lEUriz 18u9otStB737oLtsaM0xO4ZVpKkcRqU2c7BCcOmnU+ry0jswvEGythjvjh9Wmz7s 1XClvreNEaNGNlJ6JMKMugsGstJuSE7iZKgpo+a8rQJaZw9/+U7a7VAa/dGf4Bx4 l9StQIda63NsFIftcFUjQmGApwrR4atEqTqsUDnxoFqM4BcASlVZ4686aAHrYZ8l MfCDkTPJu2VLrQTPAb0QQw9utOLdYMxJcwMj31geGMZUAFCYPuWB8/Mx0djAFZyd rjdIFPELTqtdZtcxtxAEpKWZoORQ89123D+9atkWuSIxVh5TngUBfECoRoitKPnR 53YqlQWfdN/1FyixIDIYnynBIrtgyoIsYZrRCFspbsMDrvpINz3rN8CFSlB6Tkuo op/rQnTOAioEzHmnsZSkLgch3ig2ZfGsJom91gab8PTZECdrSHt3YwHlgJ1nqzxu 1xSgwI/VnDNEoULMWkCOwXGU3bXePbJr8huLNmKwvOsPm5cB162oFGK/R1wLnn/f Pdnc1RNE6rryFUs6nmCAo8L4CVA8x2VzZvZtLIWBbChtNrlqPVP5fnW2w8BrcTaV Dslya3VinekgWGQRyZneK8kl+khcshbJU7dfI1RTLROhLXBCQkP7BY+d2BuETUo/ EsA0YPvq/0yJ8GlGeov/lIF6+yCnKqWeaGRVYICRXxHzUKvLVl3KzHhvkS+jLtaq tCXZrnfbq8FQYQ6Lob+mehf7yx1TRQGfJuOiwy6q5Av44Zi48072pzhkzhHFUlOx DaoIp4mg1BT8XPtGqIY/HSLFQBd1cIuJUWKaOrbGmAoYcUQGmHIipLv77km981TW FSK8pCSwATmbUOzMHLBioYt0jqrtcSnfpPA+MbgSMKPGhEqy0RokSFOsEjdekH7N 7O2OwDOPWCKHy848w0nszsodoi++Mm4QHeg664g/Cz77KrOPhXS2ftDHRlLF6vOY FYtjxBsY1ywilTCQULi4RVH7fazzDDaunMrgtsShcXGUS+VoUy0vxt1rgUPOBKOl EE1o5AHQGnLydNgjU5Ni4ywtww/9ZWQ16/vVm3PkUe2lxYOMEd5KACIxLLJGmR4g WQtArbMffViXkLU1Vd+D2lcfwSDaZGDyL1Uz6X+PZChvxpuhePQ+56FYZYbIHg3c rKPy5rAZKqDjAD99+xMpkWbl2pMnugeSHbAn7JBjU/zPDl2pNoHyvrVXKH+8bLH5 EvR5GFvHhSIZxWGUXnmOW6IwgIuMhJ1EBYylzL+P8/XDcLq3Yuw3ztaLfKIrJSq1 V92N77zpkAodgMai3QbwzR/j6TGFZ0q8ZpGjEegxh4ig5cSlcGzMqN2AnegQnEyu iQ2SSn4rnM9pTiKcai+NCCB0LVrYzRI1hXgDGe3UzWlrRixQOZ4vKc/x+sOxS09T xO0WSr2nztCy/Rcf2TlWkrIdKliwtXOrGrjLsn5wAjCPil+raPJqxRZZh3gnxS/+ BdHySW1JtaQqT0T+xq1XUPZVjr2aEqvZrGOf0KY6ysedySXsNQ1BuX0zK7EaV0JF DyCyW+bzZ9XhqbuZ1bF/SCcqNHzd5e+jEG6iZdSpWkY7isR4Io4Z0BGPpUa6CUIK lPdciXi4q5MnJbeJc5vZPe0t8lz0Jv38+XjSXllfuFx4tkeuNtCdHBTOpqrf7tiF yAatnhiWdl6l9t9ov9p7unMw1jUSKbeorJs1GqdDRuZ94fFl3joISoyZ5k1GCmIT QIfn5sFfnerm8eaYZ3XXXzDkBjfwzrW4Nri7mbW8D6hXn3P7+fD9bnvV7VUHwVZ/ p4cCDt8pzsKsm0sTUwH6KymIQrO0tr4eAjOfHd0jiRHFTivcNyNo06wd+74Uv3Lq fkUnYe4fuSutf2rnC5dycXHQzS+9TM/Q9NAxqOvpXY1pSO5slYD7BQPSZPOuNbyz XCRDXShzqmUXGeprWPs4s+O310likYJpX+ig4LW8DNwuui5j4xkqf7gDIZvWU/kJ fu2gV6o+b/wmQTh9iGS1u03oid1zA322RXoSwk8B1NAM/fnfOBvbcU/QZ0LOm76q GDQ7lHMHo4ewFWp4eKjcK0Ui4bF2kTOmi4SrchH4fW5XKeX7YH1X0XjAlw== =kHrI -END PGP MESSAGE- -- Eugen* Leitl a
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On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:06:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wired-generation issue is that we don't need glib knowitall half-information or reporting that's packaged just like an SUV ad except it's for the socalled digiscenti. The issue is that we need the best information that we can get and Declan's superficial reportage of the Congressional debate does NOT fulfill the need. Fool. I linked to the transcript and posted the text of the bill myself. I offered in-depth coverage. Compare and contrast to wire coverage of the same legislation to achieve enlightenment. -Declan
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On 31 Aug 2001, Anonymous wrote: When I saw the general response to bombz post with the below mentioned book, I asked my significant other to please order a copy for me, because she gets a very nice reduction on prices of books she buys as an employed of Borders Bookstore chain. She refused to enter this request into their computer system to place an order, because she claims that the store monitors orders for some categories of special orders, and reports these orders to the police as a custom of policy! Buyers of bookstores beware. -- Eissler, M. A Handbook on Modern Explosives: A Practical Treatise, with Chapters on Explosives in Practical Applications London: Crosby Lockwood and Son, 1897. 2nd, Enlarged, fair, illus., appendices, index. I wouldn't use Borders for my OP book searches in any case. I use addall.com. That particular book doesn't show up currently but a title search on 'modern explosives' does turn up some other books by Eissler that may be of interest to the well-heeled fans of explosive devices. http://used.addall.com/SuperRare/submitRare.cgi?author=title=modern+explosiveskeyword=isbn=order=TITLEordering=ASCdispCurr=USDbinding=Any+Bindingmin=max=timeout=20match=YStoreAbebooks=onStoreAlibris=onStoreAntiqbook=onStoreBiblion=onStoreElephantbooks=onStoreHalf=onStoreILAB=onStoreJustBooks=onStorePowells=on For educational purposes only. Note that the unlicensed private use of explosives may be legal in America depending on time and place. Need any stumps cleared? How can we stop that Canadian armoured column slicing through Buffalo and heading down the Thruway towards NYC? DCF And the Rockets' red glare, the Bombs bursting in air, Gave proof through the night that our Flag was still there
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Exactly, and democracy is as unpopular as always for those who believe they should somehow 'lead' others 'less able'. I am not one who fears the people. Thomas Jefferson On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Anonymous wrote: The real issue is the fact that the battle takes place. Contrary to the statements made by current world leaders, this is democracy in action. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
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I'd plead the 5th. Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. Locke The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, London, Robb wrote: Attorney General Ashcroft personally approved your subpoena, and that of another reporter who published admissions by James Dalton Bell. The Government is not seeking any source material, notes, or other unpublished material from you by virtue of this subpoena. The limited purpose of the subpoena is to have you review two of your published articles, acknowledge your authorship, review several of the statements which you attributed to Bell in your articles, and have you verify that he in fact told you those things. That's all. We're only interested in having you testify about statements of his that you published. If your subpoena could have been avoided, it would have been. Unfortunately, the Federal Rules of Evidence do not permit a news article to be admitted into evidence for these purposes unless the person who wrote it can attest to its authorship and the accuracy of its content. This must be done in open court, at trial, and cannot be accomplished by affidavit, unless the defendant is willing to stipulate that your appearance can be avoided and that your articles can be admitted into evidence wit! ho! ut your appearance as a foundation witness. Mr. Bell is not interested in any such stipulations. I regret any inconvenience that a trip to Tacoma may cause. I am extremely sensitive to the intrusiveness of any subpoena and the potential negative impact that press subpoenas can have on the news gathering function. The subpoena that has been served on you, is, in my experience, as minimally intrusive as any such subpoena can be. Robb London Assistant United States Attorney Western District of Washington
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"!Dr. Joe Baptista" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get it - it seems like every week someone asks how to build a bomb here. I'm sure theirs information out there. I can tell you how to build a small nuclear device in a pipe - but you'll kill yourself doing it - unless you have the proper radiation gear. Let me know ;-) Joe Baptista These messages can be from several sources: - Someone dislikes the list and thinks this is funny. - Some immature brats are playing some game. - Some donut-munching, worthless bureaucrat is trolling for suckers. The first is possible, but I would surmise that anybody doing such a thing would put forth a bit more creativity. To date, the only creativity expressed by these fools is in the lame private flames they send back in response to being publically lambasted. If they were going for a thrill ride, it's likely that they would copy it to the list. The second isn't very likely. Most brats would have given up by now. The third is most likely. These spams all have similar syntax and follow the same format. The occasional exception, such as the "nigger" spam which arrived a couple days ago, are thrown out as distractors. When *those* are replied to in the same fashion (i.e. flamed), the donut-muncher on the other end spends fifteen seconds and sends back some incompetent response in an attempt to convince the people doing the flaming that all these idiots are "real." They send these privately hoping that they will *not* be sent back to the list, so that people can't compare notes on those as well. These will continue until the donut-muncher (DM) finds some sucker who is dumb enough to make a serious reply. At that point, the LEO will probably try to further entrap the individual, or will try to get a court order for a wiretap, or something of that nature. The first time he finds *anything* to charge the guy with, he does so, and hopes that he has a full court press present as he claims to have "thwarted a domestic terrorist ring's plans." Well, there is a fourth option: Al Gore is handing out computers to products of the public education system, complete with an automated program to produce tax-payer funded fake accounts, and this trash is some kind of English assignment. Also note that from what I've seen so far, the accounts this drek is posted from typically last about two days. On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Marion O'Kelley wrote: please send me plan's on how to build a pipe bomb only if you know! thanks