Re: Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2003-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 02:23  PM, Michael Cardenas wrote:


On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...


(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me 
and
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to 
us.)

 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



I actually found a beautiful mind to be a disappointment. I was hoping
for a movie more about math and crypto, but it turned out to be a
movie about schizophrenia. Did you not find the same thing?


It was what it was about. A movie about math and crypto would be 
watched by only a small audience. The Enigma was also about things 
other than crypto.


--Tim May
Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David 
Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11



Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
I recommend Catch Me If You Can, the new Spielberg-DiCapprio-Hanks 
movie about Frank W. Abignale, Jr., a true story of how Abignale ran 
away from home around 1964, forged checks, posed as an airline copilot, 
then as a doctor, then as a lawyer, while honing his craft in forging 
and identity faking.

I never saw Takedown, the seldom-scene movie about Mitnick, Gilmore, 
etc., but I doubt it was as good in the social engineering side of 
hacking as Catch Me is.

Some excellent sets, costumes, and period stuff from the 1960s.

Abignale consults now for check makers, credit card companies, the FBI 
and other government agencies, and seems to be the leading authority in 
forgery. An interview he did a year or two ago with an Australian radio 
station--findable on the Web, as I found it--is great. He describes 
modern technology and how it actually makes what he did as a teenager a 
lot easier today (in some ways, less so in others).

HBO has a Making Of short piece, with behind the scenes camera shots, 
interviews with the parties involved, including Abignale, and lots of 
additional information. I TIVOed it.

(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and 
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)

--Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States
 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the 
blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



Re: Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...

 (The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and
 I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)

  The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
 blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



I actually found a beautiful mind to be a disappointment. I was hoping
for a movie more about math and crypto, but it turned out to be a
movie about schizophrenia. Did you not find the same thing?

--
michael cardenas   | lead software engineer, lindows.com
hyperpoem.net  | GNU/Linux software developer
people.debian.org/~mbc | encrypted email preferred

Zen is the madman yelling 'If you wanta tell me that the stars are not words,
then stop calling them stars!'
- Jack Kerouac

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Re: Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 02:23  PM, Michael Cardenas wrote:


On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...


(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me 
and
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to 
us.)

 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



I actually found a beautiful mind to be a disappointment. I was hoping
for a movie more about math and crypto, but it turned out to be a
movie about schizophrenia. Did you not find the same thing?


It was what it was about. A movie about math and crypto would be 
watched by only a small audience. The Enigma was also about things 
other than crypto.


--Tim May
Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David 
Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11



Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
I recommend Catch Me If You Can, the new Spielberg-DiCapprio-Hanks 
movie about Frank W. Abignale, Jr., a true story of how Abignale ran 
away from home around 1964, forged checks, posed as an airline copilot, 
then as a doctor, then as a lawyer, while honing his craft in forging 
and identity faking.

I never saw Takedown, the seldom-scene movie about Mitnick, Gilmore, 
etc., but I doubt it was as good in the social engineering side of 
hacking as Catch Me is.

Some excellent sets, costumes, and period stuff from the 1960s.

Abignale consults now for check makers, credit card companies, the FBI 
and other government agencies, and seems to be the leading authority in 
forgery. An interview he did a year or two ago with an Australian radio 
station--findable on the Web, as I found it--is great. He describes 
modern technology and how it actually makes what he did as a teenager a 
lot easier today (in some ways, less so in others).

HBO has a Making Of short piece, with behind the scenes camera shots, 
interviews with the parties involved, including Abignale, and lots of 
additional information. I TIVOed it.

(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and 
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)

--Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States
 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the 
blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



Re: Recommended: Catch Me If You Can, a film

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...

 (The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and
 I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)

  The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
 blood of patriots  tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787



I actually found a beautiful mind to be a disappointment. I was hoping
for a movie more about math and crypto, but it turned out to be a
movie about schizophrenia. Did you not find the same thing?

--
michael cardenas   | lead software engineer, lindows.com
hyperpoem.net  | GNU/Linux software developer
people.debian.org/~mbc | encrypted email preferred

Zen is the madman yelling 'If you wanta tell me that the stars are not words,
then stop calling them stars!'
- Jack Kerouac

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