TV as an indicator...

2001-07-09 Thread Ray Dillinger

I turned on a television set last night, for the first time in many 
months.  I was watching videotapes, but I caught fragments of shows 
while tapes were rewinding, etc.

American TV has taken a definite turn for the vicious since I last 
watched.  It's still pablum-and-opiates, but someone has spiked it.

We're seeing an increasing focus on elitism, survival of the fittest, 
etc -- shows that present the elimination of the weak as a virtue, 
and where game-show hosts masquerading as intellectuals intentionally 
humiliate contestants.  We are seing a separation of moral responsibility 
from action and being conditioned to accept viciousness in authority 
figures.  We are also being conditioned to accept the idea that some 
form of pseudo-intellectual correctness excuses viciousness.

The tone is very similar to entertainment or public education 
films that were produced by the propaganda arm of the german National 
Socialist party in 1936-1938, which I remember from school but 
which folk in Germany, or those who attend current-day American 
schools, will not recognize due to censorship.  We forget history, 
believing that this will prevent us from repeating it rather than 
the other way round

The progression was reasonably simple, as I recall. 

First, the people are conditioned to accept harsh reality, survival 
   of the fittest, etc. 
Second, the people are conditioned to accept that, these things being 
   inevitable, hurrying them along is a virtue. 
Third, some class of people are identified as being inferior and 
   pseudoscience upholding the claim is advanced.  

The shows I saw last night were deep into the second stage, and 
universal public monitoring is now more pervasive here than it was 
then and there, and our schools are raising a generation of people 
who think monitoring and draconian weapons laws are normal, and 
ideas not politically correct are being persecuted as vigorously
here as they were in Nazi Germany. 

The parallels continue...  The new media must be controlled of 
that era was radio and television -- now it's the internet.  Same 
basic debates going on -- most of the same outcomes happening.

I am scared.


Bear




Re: TV as an indicator...

2001-07-09 Thread Declan McCullagh

I remember seeing the Nazi agitprop films during anthropology classes
in college. I'm not saying that modern TV is particularly splendid.
But at the producers are capitalists trying to maximize ratings (and
sex and insults may do that), not murderous government officials
trying to justify mass extinction.

-Declan


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:20:32AM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
 I turned on a television set last night, for the first time in many 
 months.  I was watching videotapes, but I caught fragments of shows 
 while tapes were rewinding, etc.
 
 American TV has taken a definite turn for the vicious since I last 
 watched.  It's still pablum-and-opiates, but someone has spiked it.
 
 We're seeing an increasing focus on elitism, survival of the fittest, 
 etc -- shows that present the elimination of the weak as a virtue, 
 and where game-show hosts masquerading as intellectuals intentionally 
 humiliate contestants.  We are seing a separation of moral responsibility 
 from action and being conditioned to accept viciousness in authority 
 figures.  We are also being conditioned to accept the idea that some 
 form of pseudo-intellectual correctness excuses viciousness.
 
 The tone is very similar to entertainment or public education 
 films that were produced by the propaganda arm of the german National 
 Socialist party in 1936-1938, which I remember from school but 
 which folk in Germany, or those who attend current-day American 
 schools, will not recognize due to censorship.  We forget history, 
 believing that this will prevent us from repeating it rather than 
 the other way round
 
 The progression was reasonably simple, as I recall. 
 
 First, the people are conditioned to accept harsh reality, survival 
of the fittest, etc. 
 Second, the people are conditioned to accept that, these things being 
inevitable, hurrying them along is a virtue. 
 Third, some class of people are identified as being inferior and 
pseudoscience upholding the claim is advanced.  
 
 The shows I saw last night were deep into the second stage, and 
 universal public monitoring is now more pervasive here than it was 
 then and there, and our schools are raising a generation of people 
 who think monitoring and draconian weapons laws are normal, and 
 ideas not politically correct are being persecuted as vigorously
 here as they were in Nazi Germany. 
 
 The parallels continue...  The new media must be controlled of 
 that era was radio and television -- now it's the internet.  Same 
 basic debates going on -- most of the same outcomes happening.
 
 I am scared.
 
 
   Bear




Re: TV as an indicator...

2001-07-09 Thread mmotyka

 I remember seeing the Nazi agitprop films during anthropology classes
 in college. I'm not saying that modern TV is particularly splendid.
 But at the producers are capitalists trying to maximize ratings (and
 sex and insults may do that), not murderous government officials
 trying to justify mass extinction.
 
 -Declan
 
yup, $ not gas, but it is not necessarily wrong to be looking for subtle
themes that might inadvertently disclose a deeper illness.
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:20:32AM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
  I turned on a television set last night, for the first time in many 
  months.  I was watching videotapes, but I caught fragments of shows 
  while tapes were rewinding, etc.
  
 [snip]
 
  First, the people are conditioned to accept harsh reality, survival 
 of the fittest, etc. 
  Second, the people are conditioned to accept that, these things being 
 inevitable, hurrying them along is a virtue. 
  Third, some class of people are identified as being inferior and 
 pseudoscience upholding the claim is advanced.  
  
  The shows I saw last night were deep into the second stage, and 
  universal public monitoring is now more pervasive here than it was 
  then and there, and our schools are raising a generation of people 
  who think monitoring and draconian weapons laws are normal, and 
  ideas not politically correct are being persecuted as vigorously
  here as they were in Nazi Germany. 
  
  The parallels continue...  The new media must be controlled of 
  that era was radio and television -- now it's the internet.  Same 
  basic debates going on -- most of the same outcomes happening.
  
  I am scared.
  
Bear
 
Maybe these things exist as undercurrents in all societies and
occasionally they swirl a bit, setting loose a bit of swamp gas.
Sometimes the whole pond turns over bringing all sorts of stinking muck
to the surface.

Maybe it's disturbing to recognize these undercurrents in the smiling,
happy place you call home but they've been there all along.

Mike