Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-19 Thread Tyler Durden

Hey...this looks interesting. I'd like to see the email chain before this.

While living in China I learned that whatever Jong Nan Hai most vociferously 
denies will almost certainly be true, so even Chinese Government propaganda 
is very interesting.


-TD



From: Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Email List: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:33:01 +0100

Hasan Diwan wrote:
if the US wants to maintain  its fantasy, it will need a Ministry of Truth 
to

do so. Cheers, Hasan Diwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And the airing of government-issued news bulletins without attributation 
(or

indeed, anything from Fox News) doesn't convince you there already is one?





Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-19 Thread Dave Howe

Hasan Diwan wrote:

if the US wants to maintain  its fantasy, it will need a Ministry of Truth to
do so. Cheers, Hasan Diwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And the airing of government-issued news bulletins without attributation (or
indeed, anything from Fox News) doesn't convince you there already is one?



Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-19 Thread Dave Howe

Tyler Durden wrote:

Hey...this looks interesting. I'd like to see the email chain before this.

sorry, accidental crosspost from mailto:cryptography@metzdowd.com; see
http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/18225 for the post it is a reply to.



Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-18 Thread Dave Howe

Hasan Diwan wrote:

if the US wants to maintain  its fantasy, it will need a Ministry of Truth to
do so. Cheers, Hasan Diwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And the airing of government-issued news bulletins without attributation (or
indeed, anything from Fox News) doesn't convince you there already is one?



Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-18 Thread Tyler Durden

Hey...this looks interesting. I'd like to see the email chain before this.

While living in China I learned that whatever Jong Nan Hai most vociferously 
denies will almost certainly be true, so even Chinese Government propaganda 
is very interesting.


-TD



From: Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Email List: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:33:01 +0100

Hasan Diwan wrote:
if the US wants to maintain  its fantasy, it will need a Ministry of Truth 
to

do so. Cheers, Hasan Diwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And the airing of government-issued news bulletins without attributation 
(or

indeed, anything from Fox News) doesn't convince you there already is one?





Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists

2005-08-18 Thread Dave Howe

Tyler Durden wrote:

Hey...this looks interesting. I'd like to see the email chain before this.

sorry, accidental crosspost from mailto:cryptography@metzdowd.com; see
http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/18225 for the post it is a reply to.