Re: Hullabo
--- Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arise the masses,how he did that-I have no clue.How ever he did that in the 1940's when the only method of mass communication was radio(british controlled) and new paper(again british controlled).To bring together a diverse,multilingual,multicultural society like India was never easy. Is this some kind of Indian raghead/Swami humor? Its part of a big jigsaw puzzle-with enough time and effort you will come to know. Gandhi didn't bring together anything. The country split into at least three pieces after he got the Western government of the British thrown out. Alaska was bought by US from Russia for $'s,wasn't it?The US has lot of money,while many others don't. All that he ensured was that his particular bunch would control the whip hand. You are free to beleive what you wish to beleive. Merry Xmas and happy new year to all. Regards Sarath. --Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson, 1787 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
re:constant encryped stream
At 03:07 AM 12/21/02 -0800, Sarad AV wrote: Don't encrypt,post it by snail mail.I remember reading this in pgp's help document. It addresses why we glue over our envelope and seal it.It ofcourse is concealing(for the govt) and privacy (for the user).The govt. never asks letters not to be glued and sealed because of the vast majority of people using it. But at the slightest at the use of encryption will raise their brows. Find a readily-OCR-able font and encrypt your message before printing mailing it... A (twisted) form of stego if your envelope is textured/opaque. (A friend once sent me a PGP msg on a *postcard* but the fucker used a font that required lots of manual corrections... using only PGP's griping as feedback.) -- Intended only for lawful uses. -HP Computer Advert
Re: Policing Bioterror Research
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: (By the way, Eugene, I had to snip out a vast chunk of included text from you message. Please include only URLs for very long pieces. If not, I'll have to killfile you as I have done with other serial posters.) I usually do that. I made an exception in this case because the original document is in Adobe Acerbat. I transliterated it. I did not expect somebody would have to excise it when replying. In this case top (or, rather, middle) posting does have its merits. I notice that diverse governmental authorities have been pulling content in an attempt to improve their PR (witness http://www.thememoryhole.org/policestate/iao-logo.htm ). Since we can't rely on central depositories like Google cache (which is shallow, anyway) we should retain copies at individual level.
Re: How robust is SpeakFreely?
As an user of SpeakFreely (7.2 on Windows, stillcan't get my USB headset to work properly with SF 7.3 on Linux) I've got the following three items on my wish list. (Hey, I wasn't naughty this year. Honest). 1) built-in PKI support, with fallback to clear. Right now it uses some obscure PGP version, and probably doesn't even ask key servers. In practise it's much easer to agree on an IDEA of Blowish key -- but it's not an out of band communication, and if you don't switch to the same key synchronously one party is going to have her eardrums blasted with LOUD digital noise. I think it would be simplest to use SSL, with PGP (7.2 doesn't support GPG apparently) support left in for those parties who need it. I must stress that currently using crypto means: 1) people asking you to do some complicated operations on your end, while you're unsure why (you just wanted to talk, why does this other party asks me this for? what are his motives?) 2) using some rather technical lingo (have you ever tried explaining what cryptography is to a houswife from the Emirates? And why she possibly can get in trouble using it? (She doesn't, I looked up the crypto regulations for her country)). 3) if you comply, you get blasted with LOUD SCARY NOISE As you can see, here's some heavy negative conditioning at work here, making the average user associate crypto with pushy geeks asking you to do technical stuff at your end and then get blasted by scary loud noise for your pains. Ugh, not again, thanks. 2) Voice Activation with default threshold set to zero as default. Push-to-talk is annoying as hell, and should be the optional mode, not the other way round. 3) A realtime display of current lag time (bar and/or numeric) would be very nice. Lag is unpredictable, and varies over time. Ping/pong protocol at meat level is very annoying, especially if one have to instruct some clueless party on the other end first, through a link that doesn't work like your average phone. 4) Did I say three? Four, FOUR things. Even with current small user community one will frequently get talked by new users debugging their setup (see points 2-3 to make it easier), or some teenagers who're out to annoy. It would be nice to have a realtime public phonebook with geographical separations, and ability to block connections from some parties. This point is currently very unimportant, though. On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Thomas Shaddack wrote: http://www.speakfreely.org/ is a nice, open-source cross-platfor VoIP software. Supports encryption by DES, Blowfish, and IDEA. Had anyone knowledgeable ever looked at its code? How secure this implementation is? Is better to use Blowfish or IDEA? Where are the potential holes there?
Make antibiotic resistant pathogens at home! (Re: Policing Bioterror Research)
At 07:07 PM 12/21/02 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2002/1217/1 Moreover, prior approval from the Department of Health and Human Services will be needed for experiments that might make a select agent more toxic or more resistant to known drugs, as well as similar studies that could be added to a restricted list. So are all the housefrau who ask for antibiotics whenever they get the sniffles going to be tracked? The indiscriminate use of antibios leads to drug-resistant bugs. See Darwin et al. And how about them ag antibios (which increase feed:meat ratio)? -- Intended only for lawful uses. -HP Computer Advert
Re: Policing Bioterror Research
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:22:17 -0800, you wrote: On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 10:07 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2002/1217/1 Policing Bioterror Research One of science's hottest fields is now becoming one of its most heavily regulated, too. The U.S. government last week unveiled sweeping new bioterror research regulations that will require 20,000 scientists at nearly 1000 laboratories to beef up security--or face hefty fines and jail sentences. The interim rules, due to go into effect early next year, could also force scientists to get prior approval for a growing list of sensitive experiments. And where in the United States Constitution is there provision for controlling which experiments may be done, for what research articles may be published, for what thoughts may be thought? I regret to inform you that henceforth, the Constitution and derivative laws will be used only in a public relations sense as a symbol of the legitimacy of the government, rather than as a written delineation of the firm limitations on the powers of government. Previously, the United States Government claimed a monopoly on intimidation and violence within its borders, and it occasionally added other locales such as Latin America, Southeast Asia, etc. Currently, it is extending that claim of monopoly world wide, and it is adding to its proscribed list any precursors that could aid, support, fund, hide, protect or otherwise further any power to intimidate and apply violence other than that of the United States and its surrogates, most notably the UK. The precursors will include privacy, in any form, particularly encryption (unless its use is deemed a worthwhile flag for focused surveillance); associations with others, such as any loyal following or set of like-minded independent people that might be led in some direction not of Washington's choosing; information about the actions and plans of government, since that enables interference and could damage public acquiescence to necessary national security measures; financial resources, other than those that pass through verified identity gatekeepers; knowledge of the law, and the process of capturing, obtaining intelligence through torture, and imprisoning people, as that gives a balance of power and a sympathetic public forum to targets; and so on. Intersections of those precursors, such as privacy and financial resources, or information and private associations, will be particularly attacked. Not even a massive database on Americans designed by a former disgraced National Security Advisor who was convicted of 5 felonies involving shipping shoulder fired missiles to Iran, lying to Congress, funding US-supported terrorism in Nicaragua that was prohibited by law, seems to earn any concern from the sheep. Not even the selected suspension of Habeas Corpus draws a crowd in opposition. It is quite interesting to see how the evisceration of the Bill of Rights is essentially accepted unopposed. No marches in the streets, no demonstrations, no uproar from the liberal media, no effective political opposition as the Democrats and Republicans are competing only in which can be most draconian, as they practiced in setting the imprisonment penalties in the war on drugs. The frog is being boiled by upping the thermostat a degree at a time, and it is just happily basking in the warming waters, trusting its attendant to protect its interests, in the name of National Security. Lest one blame this president or his party, consider that there is no daylight between the parties on these measures. The only debate we hear among our politicians is whether or not to preemptively do a Pearl Harbor on Iraq with or without a UN stamp of acquiescence. A war must be fought to provide a clearer reason for and distraction from the rise of fascism. If the people can be rewarded with cheaper gas at the pump as a bonus, then the highly-favorable body bag count of an imminently- videoable war from 40,000 feet and cheaper energy will ensure a continuing grant of carte blanc to the government. Have you heard Gore or Kerry or Edwards or Daschle or Gebhardt or others bemoan the designation of Americans as enemy combatants? Have the Democrats opposed the USA Patriot Act? Have the minority members of intelligence commitees demanded information on how powers of grabbing bookseller and library records is being used? No. This competition is one between free people and government-in-lockstep, and almost all of the people accept the ever-warming impositions of government out of custom, accepting the terrorism fear-mongering and long practice, further advanced by a gross ignorance of history. We are witnessing the rise of a fascist state unlike any other in history, in that this fascist state is the world's sole superpower, positioned by technology, wealth, and military might to prevent the rise
