Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:12:16PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:44:50AM -0800, Tim May wrote: I don't know if this is your reason for expecting not to fly commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be exempted from the national security police state, think again. Right. One Democratic anti-terror proposal would link police to Amtrak databases: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02715.html Even before Sept 11, Amtrak was sharing passenger info with the DEA for drug prosecutions: http://www.politechbot.com/p-01909.html Come on, folks -- Amtrak is a federal government entity. It will be in the vanguard of the next big push to advance the national security state. Of course. I have no doubt whatsoever that we'll soon see checkpoints at every entrance and exit to all cities where they search the cars and passengers. It's only a matter of time. And probably require visas to travel anywhere, or at least pre-trip filing of travel plans. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Shuttle Diplomacy
Interesting event, eh? Pretty well timed. They're already saying it wasn't a missle, which may be. Could have been a bomb tho -- pretty weird that it's the first problem they've ever had with a landing, and just happens to have the Israeli onboard. Over Texas too. If it weren't terrs, then it must be Allah warning the Great Satan to watch his step. Interesting too that Saddam's eldest son just warned that 9/11 would be a picnic compared to what will happen if the US invades. And then there's those 3,000 Iraqis the feebs said they were looking for -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
NASA doesn't check astronauts' ID
At 10:50 AM 2/1/03 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Interesting event, eh? Pretty well timed. They're already saying it wasn't a missle, which may be. Could have been a bomb tho -- pretty weird that it's the Its possible that NASA doesn't check astronauts' ID. So maybe one was a terrorist. [Heh: Maybe the one that personally bombed another country unprovoked?] Kinda makes that zionist-occupation-of-orbit spoof ironic. Score 1 for Allah.
Who owns stuff that falls onto someone's property?
Expect the first EBay auctions of debris from the Columbia to be a constitutional issue soon. (Actually, the censors at fascist EBay have probably already flagged any transactions which mention space shuttle and Columbia to be illegal thoughtcrime sales.) Many tons of debris, scattered over at least three states. The FedGov is already trying to claim control over the entire debris field. (Of course, those in the know would be interested in any debris which includes artifacts from Shen Zou 4, the module left in orbit by the Chinese satellite launch, said by Jane's to be a military surveillance satellite, China's first, and said to have been a recovery mission by the three payload specialists on the classified STS-107 misison. The possibility that the Chinese set a 3-kg explosive charge to detonate under accelerometer signals is...interesting.) Janes.com: SZ 4 left its orbital module in orbit, where it will operate as an independent satellite for six or seven months, conducting Earth observation (perhaps military as well as civil), science and technical experiments. But, of course, such speculations are now banned under orders of HomeSec Internal Security Directorate 117-4, so I am making no such speculations. --Tim May Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events following 9/11/2001
Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:44:50AM -0800, Tim May wrote: I don't know if this is your reason for expecting not to fly commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be exempted from the national security police state, think again. Right. One Democratic anti-terror proposal would link police to Amtrak databases: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02715.html Even before Sept 11, Amtrak was sharing passenger info with the DEA for drug prosecutions: http://www.politechbot.com/p-01909.html Come on, folks -- Amtrak is a federal government entity. It will be in the vanguard of the next big push to advance the national security state. -Declan
ICBM's and space programs
hi, Would countries with an advanced space program and with capilities of launching satellites have ICBM capabilities.if yes can they be sucessfully launched with the knowledge that they can successfully launch medium range missiles (2000 to 3000 km range). Regards Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Shuttle Humor
PRICELESS - Zionist Entity air force training: $750,000 Unprovoked attack on another country's nuclear installation: $350,000 Bribes to US Congressmen to promote Zionist in Space program: $1,250,000 The look on your fellow astronauts' faces right before the grenade you are holding explodes --PRICELESS There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MasterCard. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: Who owns stuff that falls onto someone's property?
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:31:16PM -0800, Tim May wrote: Expect the first EBay auctions of debris from the Columbia to be a constitutional issue soon. (Actually, the censors at fascist EBay have probably already flagged any transactions which mention space shuttle and Columbia to be illegal thoughtcrime sales.) Yep, ebay has already removed such auctions, e.g., item #2156954390, `SPACE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA PIECE OF WRECKAGE PART'. John Bethencourt
Re: Re: Shuttle Diplomacy
- Original Message - From: Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: CDR: Re: Shuttle Diplomacy [snip conspiracy theory] Especially in this case, I'd bet my shoes on Murphy; Columbia was an old lady that had her problems even before the launch itself. I'd bet on something stupid, like loosened tiles or computer malfunction (though more likely the tiles, as the computers are backed up). Remember Challenger, where the fault was a stupid O-ring. One of the current theories floating around has to do with a piece of debris that flew off the booster rocket during take-off and collided with the left wing (where the problems began). The video of the take-off was reviewed in great detail and it was determined that it was innocent, considering the proximity of the problems and the debris there appears to be at least something worth investigating. Joe Trust Laboratories http://www.trustlaboratories.com
Encrypted hard drive enclosure for $139
http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_info.php?products_id=331 http://www.del trontech.com/Enclosure/E3S/E3S.htm Interesting, but I'm confused about the Real-time 64-bit/ 40-bit DES (Data Encryption Standard) Encryption/ Decryption with throughput of 712Mbit/ sec Does anyone know about a stronger version of a similar device? -Declan
Re: Shuttle Diplomacy
Interesting event, eh? Pretty well timed. They're already saying it wasn't a missle, which may be. Or they want us to think so, playing double-bluff. (It isn't possible to get a missile up there quickly enough and accurately enough to hit so high and fast target. (Though one can never rule out an infrared MIRACL-class laser. But a plain vanilla mechanical failure seems more probable. Remember, most airplanes that crash don't contain any bomb, and the most vicious terrorist is lousy maintenance.) Could have been a bomb tho -- pretty weird that it's the first problem they've ever had with a landing, and just happens to have the Israeli onboard. Once it had to be the first time, especially with the cost-cutting so common these days, and with the careerism and bureaucracy that thrives in the management of every big organization. Over Texas too. If it weren't terrs, then it must be Allah warning the Great Satan to watch his step. Over Texas it was in just the right flight phase to experience problems; just the point where the shuttle was about to switch from spacecraft to aircraft mode, switching to alternate control systems. Interesting too that Saddam's eldest son just warned that 9/11 would be a picnic compared to what will happen if the US invades. And then there's those 3,000 Iraqis the feebs said they were looking for Saddam's family is known for having bigger mouths than capabilities. Especially in this case, I'd bet my shoes on Murphy; Columbia was an old lady that had her problems even before the launch itself. I'd bet on something stupid, like loosened tiles or computer malfunction (though more likely the tiles, as the computers are backed up). Remember Challenger, where the fault was a stupid O-ring. Shame Feynmann is dead :((( I'd LOVE to read his report about this one.
Re: Shuttle Diplomacy
On Sunday, 2 de February de 2003 01:45, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Shuttle Diplomacy [snip conspiracy theory] Especially in this case, I'd bet my shoes on Murphy; Columbia was an old lady that had her problems even before the launch itself. I'd bet on something stupid, like loosened tiles or computer malfunction (though more likely the tiles, as the computers are backed up). Remember Challenger, where the fault was a stupid O-ring. One of the current theories floating around has to do with a piece of debris that flew off the booster rocket during take-off and collided with the left wing (where the problems began). The video of the take-off was reviewed in great detail and it was determined that it was innocent, considering the proximity of the problems and the debris there appears to be at least something worth investigating. Joe You betcha!! If more than a few tiles separated the plasma (much ionized oxigen) would interact with the aluminium of the shuttle structure and as aluminium has a high oxidation value an explosion would ensue... (Think termite...) --- just a personal theory My question is other thou... Several years ago, some tiles got off the shuttle during liftoff. Being afraid of the condition of space shuttle a Keyhole spy satelite was used to examine the bottom of the space shuttle... Why hell in a mission with more than 10 days in space, they didn't do it again? The KH satellites too busy??? Only if there is a desperate search for saddam hussein's weapons of mass destruction or Osama Bin Laden... and there was no need to bug those people on the reconaissance office... Cheers, aife
Re: Life Sentence for Medical Marijuana?
Great how bush's daughter, the cocaine addict, isn't in jail, but this man, who was deputized by the city of oakland to grow this marijuana, is going to be in jail for 20 years. Bush himself was arrested for DUI, I wish he was rotting in jail instead of ed. Hold it...Bush's relationship with Cocaine is on a first name basis at least. What's this about him as Governer of Texas flying the same plane that had supposedly moved the cocaine for the drugs-for-guns part of Iran Contra? And then there's the PERSISTENT rumors of him actually taking an accidental DEA bust in a Florida airport after landing a fresh new cargo. Supposedly this was a bit of a snafu and they had to let him go on the hush-hush...(And I keep hearing there's video of that bust.) Do some fishing around on http://www.spitfirelist.com/ftr.html and you'll eventually see the references. OK, maybe it's conspiracy theory crapola, but when you start seeing a LONG list of dates/times/places, you begin to wonder that perhaps at least a subset is true. -TD PS: I personally think it would be a waste for that hot little coke slut to get locked away. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: punk and free markets
Tim May wrote... Silliness. The name cypherpunks was a pun on cyberpunks, a pun suggested by Jude Milhon, a woman writer for Mondo 2000 at the time. Being that there is no body which decides what our group is called, or even that it _is_ a group, saying that someone's pun on top of someone else's pun means some political ideology attached to degenerates like Sid Vicious, the Dead Kennedy's, etc., is pure silliness. Whether even cyberpunks had anything substantive to do with the so-called punk music scene is debatable, but cypherpunks certainly did not. The political ideology of all musical punks I have met is decidedly leftist, and not in the way libertarians often like. Rather, the leftists of British socialism, of American Democrat statists, and of Trotskyites in general. Sometimes I keep asking myself if the author of statements like these is really pretending Guru-like to be clueless just to elicit a response. But it's obvious here that whoever Tim May is he's just about clueless. In the discussions about the meaning of the suffix -punk I don't remember seeing any suggestion that Cypherpunks had any connection politically or music-wise to punk music. The posts were meant to explore what quintessentially punk flavorings might be implied by the name or that may be reflected in the overall makeup of the list. And yes, I was aware of where the term originated from, and it was clear to me that the intent of the naming was to imply a sort of anti-establishment don't give a crap we're going to code and unload crypto apps attitude. And to some extent, the list (no, not a group, but a set of lists with the name cypherpunks) has aspects of that character. But it always pisses me off when I see the local jocks or other thoughtpolice come on out and enforce whatever ideology it is desired we bow down to. Hmmm...a song lyric comes to mind... If you've come to fight, get outa here You ain't no better than the bouncers We ain't trying to be police When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy (From Nazi Punks Fuck Off by the Dead Kennedys) _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: Encrypted hard drive enclosure for $139
Declan wrote: http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_info.php?products_id=331 http://www.del trontech.com/Enclosure/E3S/E3S.htm Interesting, but I'm confused about the Real-time 64-bit/ 40-bit DES (Data Encryption Standard) Encryption/ Decryption with throughput of 712Mbit/ sec Does anyone know about a stronger version of a similar device? This looks very similar to the dLock device. http://www.enovatek.com.tw/realtime-hd.htm Perhaps they are using the same ASIC? If so, the product is pure crap. Based on conversations that I had with the booth staff at the last RSA conference, the dLock employs DES and 3DES in ECB mode. Meaning the ciphertext on disk can be broken with the most trivial of cryptanalysis. --Lucky
Re: Re: Shuttle Diplomacy
One of the current theories floating around has to do with a piece of debris that flew off the booster rocket during take-off and collided with the left wing (where the problems began). The video of the take-off was reviewed in great detail and it was determined that it was innocent, considering the proximity of the problems and the debris there appears to be at least something worth investigating. According to Slashdot, the ground control started to lose data from shuttle's sensors; first from the back of the left wing, then spreading forward, then all the shuttle went dead. Sounds like a structural damage. The takeoff damage could've been a contributing factor; one single slightly loosened tile can be deadly in such speeds. I just hope they won't mothball the ISS...
Re: Who owns stuff that falls onto someone's property?
At 06:01 PM 2/1/2003 -0600, John Bethencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:31:16PM -0800, Tim May wrote: Expect the first EBay auctions of debris from the Columbia to be a constitutional issue soon. (Actually, the censors at fascist EBay have probably already flagged any transactions which mention space shuttle and Columbia to be illegal thoughtcrime sales.) Yep, ebay has already removed such auctions, e.g., item #2156954390, `SPACE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA PIECE OF WRECKAGE PART'. Perhaps this is an opportunity for competitive, even offshore, auction sites to take the fore. http://www.goldbarter.com uses e-gold. steve
