Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?

2004-07-16 Thread Eugen Leitl

Hard drives won't be able to, you'd need solid state flash disks.
Sustainable operation will dry out lubricant in bearings, so any fans won't
last very long. Any cooling requiring convection won't work, radiative
cooling only. I suppose backlighting should be able to do, don't see how LCDs
will get damaged. If high voltage is sufficiently good insulated, otherwise
it will arc.

It all depends on how hard your vacuum is, of course. And how long you want
to operate the device.

You'd need an old laptop, passively cooled (if it won't foul up your vacuum,
immerse it in silicon oil), outfitted with flash sticks or flash drives.

All of this is an educated guess, of course.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:35:02AM -0400, An Metet wrote:
 Does anyone *know* (first or second hand, I can speculate myself) which laptops, if 
 any, can safely go to zero air pressure (dropping from 1 atm to 0 in, say, 1 minute.)

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vacuum-safe laptops ?

2004-07-16 Thread An Metet

Does anyone *know* (first or second hand, I can speculate myself) which laptops, if 
any, can safely go to zero air pressure (dropping from 1 atm to 0 in, say, 1 minute.)



RE: vacuum-safe laptops ?

2004-07-16 Thread Trei, Peter


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of An Metet
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: vacuum-safe laptops ?
 
 
 
 Does anyone *know* (first or second hand, I can speculate 
 myself) which laptops, if any, can safely go to zero air 
 pressure (dropping from 1 atm to 0 in, say, 1 minute.)

What's your application, exactly? A rocket? 

I don't know about rapid decompression, but one problem is
with the disk drives - the heads rely on entrained air to
maintain separation from the disk surface. Most drives are
not hermetically sealed, and have a (filtered) port to the
outside to equalize air pressure.

Some drives *are* sealed, and will operate at low pressure.

I've seen this issue disscussed in the context of computers
and laptops at high-altitude astronomical observatories:
most machines will suffer head crashes if you try to use
them at  10,000 feet (jets maintain an internal pressure
altitude of about 5,000 feet). 



Some applications use solid state drives to get around
this:
http://www.globalspec.com/featuredproducts/detail?exhibitId=10540fromSpotlight=1fromSupplier=0

Some displays may also be a problem. This is more an 
issue for big plasma displays. Sony makes a special 
plasma TV for high altitude use:
http://www.superwarehouse.com/Sony_PlasmaPro_PFM-42V1A_S_Silver_42_Plasma_Display/PFM-42V1A_S/pf/330392

A useful article is at
http://www.iht.com/IHT/SUP/031999/digi-08.html

You might want to look at the Itronix GoBook Max.
http://www.gobookmax.com/

This device supposedly meets MILSPEC:
http://www.dtc.army.mil/pdf/810.pdf

which is a USG survivability spec. It includes an explosive decompression
test, but not to high vacuum.

..and of course, all this gets pricy.

Peter Trei




US Seeks Bobby Fischer Extradition

2004-07-16 Thread Eric Cordian
Now that AmeriKKKa has successfully invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq in
violation of international law, tortured with impunity, and mocked the rest of the
world with its arrogance, what will it do for an encore?

Settle old political scores, of course.

So it comes as no surprise that the US has had former world chess champion Bobby
FIscher arrested in Japan, and is seeking his extradition to the United States.

Seems in 1992, Mr. Fischer played in the world chess championship in Yugoslavia
which was under UN sanctions prohibiting people from engaging in a business
enterprise there.  The US, which has a long history of creatively interpreting UN
resolutions to suit its own ends, decided unilaterally that this prohibition applied
to sporting events, a view held by no other nation in the world.

After Fischer won the match, a federal grand jury indicted him, and he was magically
transformed from world chess champion into a fugutive facing 10 years in prison and
a $250,000 fine.

Unable to protect his business and personal interests in the United States as a
fugitive, his belongings in the US were stolen, and his chess books were freely
reproduced in violation of his copyright, depriving him of the rightful income from
his intellectual property.

Another reason Mr. Fischer's life was magically transformed to shit.  He's openly
critical, as any sane person would be, of Israel and the Jews.  And as we know, you
can't do that and be a public figure in AmeriKKKa without being attacked, although
to even suggest that this is the case instantly gets one accused of hate speech.

So it should be interesting to see how this case unfolds, in a country where Martha 
Stewart can go to prison for lying, but Colin Powell can't.

-- 
Eric Michael Cordian 0+
O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law



Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004
  Actually, frequent prosecutions could work to the advantage of a select 
  few who choose to become martyrs.  Since it would make it much more 
  likely supplicants would be called upon.
 
 Please explain this thought?

If people are intentionally trying to set up the jackbooted thugs to break down your 
door then the more often the thugs take the bait the more likely the baitors will get 
to spring their traps.

 
  I posted a few months back offering an alternative to religion in 
  recruitment: the terminally ill.
 
 That's not good for this purpose; their lifetime is too short.

Do you have evidence to support this (e.g., average survivial times of the TI from 
their first learning about their condition)?



Terror in the Skies, Again?

2004-07-16 Thread Riad S. Wahby
I don't quite know what to make of this.  Is it just paranoid rambling?

http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1articleid=711

Terror in the Skies, Again?
By Annie Jacobsen 

Note from the E-ditors: You are about to read an account of what
happened during a domestic flight that one of our writers, Annie
Jacobsen, took from Detroit to Los Angeles. The WWS Editorial Team
debated long and hard about how to handle this information and
ultimately we decided it was something that should be shared. What
does it have to do with finances? Nothing, and everything. Here is
Annie's  story.

On June 29, 2004, at 12:28 p.m., I flew on Northwest Airlines flight
#327 from Detroit to Los Angeles with my husband and our young son.
Also on our flight were 14 Middle Eastern men between the ages of
approximately 20 and 50 years old.  What I experienced during that
flight has caused me to question whether the United States of America
can realistically uphold the civil liberties of every individual, even
non-citizens, and protect its citizens from terrorist threats.

..

-- 
Riad S. Wahby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Blast from the past: USENET Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004
USENET Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1 
10 February 2002 
Authors (alphabetically): 
Sister Tornado 

Copyright© 2002 Sister Tornado. Reproduce with credit at will. 


 

Abstract 
SOAP [1] is a lightweight protocol for exchange of information in a decentralized, 
distributed environment, using XML. This document details transporting SOAP messages 
over the USENET. [2] 

Status 
This is a draft. 

Table of Contents 
1. Introduction 
1.1 Notational Conventions 
2. Use Of USENET Message body 
2.1 Encoding 
3. Identifying USENET transports in WSDL 
4. Request / Response semantics 
5. Examples 
6. Security Considerations 
7. References 

1. Introduction 
By binding SOAP to USENET, we can take advantage of USENET's store and forward 
messaging to provide an asynchronous, broadcast, one way transport for SOAP. Two one 
way messages can be correlated to provide request / response semantics (this closely 
follows the SOAP model). This allows SOAP to be used in a number of scenarios where 
HTTP is not suitable (partially connected nodes, one way notifications etc.) 

The author wishes to acknowledge that the shameless cribbing of much of the text from 
SMTP Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1 
 [0]. 


1.1 Notational Conventions 
The keywords MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT, SHOULD, SHOULD 
NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL in this document are to be interpreted as 
described in RFC-2119 [3]. 



2. Use of USENET Standard 

2.1 Use of USENET Message Headers 
The USENET Message standard requires the use of a Subject field. This field SHOULD be 
used to identify the service being called. 

For example: 

Subject: SoapRobot 

2.2 Use of USENET Message body 
SOAP payloads in USENET MUST be packaged into the body of the USENET message. 
2.3 Encoding 
A content transfer encoding of base64 is RECOMMENDED. A content transfer encoding of 
Quoted-Printable MAY be used if the SOAP payload meets the requirements of RFC-1036 
[2]. 


3. Identifying USENET transports in WSDL 
The URI http://schemas.xmlsoap.com/soap/usenet/ SHOULD be used to identify USENET 
transports compliant with this specification in the transport attribute of the 
soap:binding element of a WSDL [4] document (see section 3.3 of the WSDL spec.) 

The address of the SOAP service in the soap:address element of a WSDL document SHOULD 
be the name or handle of the intended recipient and a comma-delimitedlist of 
newsgroups where a request may be posted. For example: 

soap:address location=[EMAIL PROTECTED],example.alt.soap.messages.fake 

4. Request / Response semantics 
SOAP applications requiring request / response semantics will need to perform some 
sort of message correlation. This SHOULD be achieved via the standard Message-Id and 
Followup-To USENET headers [2]. The request will include a Message-Id header, and the 
associated response should include a Followup-To header that contains the Message-Id 
of the request, and a new Message-Id header. 

The responder SHOULD also reflect the incoming subject header into the response, 
prefixing it with Re: . 

5. Example 
A request destined for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Path: server.example/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/relay.site.example/site.example/injector.site.example%jsmith 
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Mon, 11 February 2002 23:27:00 -0700 
Subject: SoapRobot 
Newsgroups: example.alt.comp.rec.foo 

?xml version=3D1.0 encoding=3DUTF-8? 
SOAP-ENV:Envelope 
SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/; 
xmlns:SOAP-ENC=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/; 
xmlns:SOAP-ENV=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/; 
xmlns:xsd=3Dhttp://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; 
xmlns:xsi=3Dhttp://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
SOAP-ENV:Body 
m:echoString xmlns:m=3Dhttp://soapinterop.org/; 
inputStringA human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, 
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance 
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give 
orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, 
pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, 
die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. --Robert A. Heinlein/inputString 
/m:echoString 
/SOAP-ENV:Body 
/SOAP-ENV:Envelope 


The resulting response from SoapRobot 

Path: server.example/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/relay.site.example/site.example/injector.site.example%jsmith 
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Mon, 11 February 2002 23:51:00 -0700 
Subject: Re: SoapRobot 
Newsgroups: example.alt.comp.rec.foo 
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

?xml version=3D1.0 encoding=3DUTF-8? 
SOAP-ENV:Envelope 
SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/; 
xmlns:SOAP-ENC=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/; 
xmlns:SOAP-ENV=3Dhttp://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/; 

We werent doing anything wrong

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/static/stories/2004071346.html

Couple in anti-Bush T-shirts were arrested at president’s speech 
By Tara Tuckwiller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

A husband and wife who wore anti-Bush T-shirts to the president’s Fourth of July 
appearance aren’t going down without a fight: They will be represented by lawyers from 
the American Civil Liberties Union as they contest the trespassing charges against 
them Thursday morning in Charleston Municipal Court.

Police took Nicole and Jeff Rank away in handcuffs from the event, which was billed as 
a presidential appearance, not a campaign rally. They were wearing T-shirts that read, 
“Love America, Hate Bush.”

Spectators who wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons were allowed to 
stay.

“We weren’t doing anything wrong,” said Jeff Rank. The couple, who said they had 
tickets just like everybody else, said they simply stood around the Capitol steps with 
the rest of the spectators.

“We sang the national anthem,” Rank said.

The Ranks hardly fit the image of rabble-rousers. Jeff Rank, 29, has a master’s degree 
in oceanography. Nicole Rank, 30, has degrees in biological science and marine 
biology. They have been married for seven years.

Nicole Rank arrived in Charleston soon after the Memorial Day floods. She was working 
as deputy environmental liaison officer for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, 
making sure cities and counties obeyed federal environmental laws as they repaired 
roads and bridges.

After police arrested the Ranks, fingerprinted them and took their mug shots, FEMA 
told Nicole Rank she was no longer needed in West Virginia.

“I have not been fired per se,” she said. “But I was released from this job. And when 
they release you from a job, you no longer get paid.”

The Ranks started to go home to Corpus Christi, Texas, but they only got as far as 
Roanoke, Va., when it occurred to them that they might not be able to contest their 
arrest if they weren’t in Charleston on their court date. A phone call confirmed their 
suspicions. So they turned around.

“We’ve been living in motels ever since,” said Jeff Rank, who spent Tuesday evening in 
his motel room with his wife, their cocker spaniel Feinman, and their marmalade cat 
Rowr.

“It’s extremely difficult [financially]. We can only afford to do this for so long.”

But they had to stay and fight the charges, he said, “because we didn’t think we were 
guilty.”

Since Bush took office in early 2001, people have been banned from displaying 
anti-Bush messages at dozens of Bush appearances across the country. In September, the 
ACLU filed a federal lawsuit against the Secret Service, seeking an injunction against 
the Bush administration for segregating protesters at his public appearances.

The Secret Service agreed that such censorship was wrong, said Witold Walczak, one of 
the lawyers that filed the lawsuit.

“They had an internal memo dated September 2002, saying they couldn’t treat protesters 
differently or worse” than anyone else at a presidential appearance, Walczak said. 
“The judge said any agent responsible for doing so could be held liable for damages.”

The Secret Service had been telling local police to sequester anyone displaying an 
anti-administration message, usually in areas completely out of sight and earshot of 
Bush. Because the Secret Service agreed with the ACLU that it shouldn’t be doing that, 
the judge dismissed the case.

“Prior to filing our suit in September, we’d get a couple of confirmed ‘protest zone’ 
complaints every month,” Walczak said. “After we filed, there were practically none. 
We had two documented incidents between September and March: one in Little Rock, Ark., 
and one in Knoxville, Tenn.”

But now, lawyers like Walczak are carefully monitoring cases like the Ranks’ — and two 
similar incidents recently in Pennsylvania.

“We’re trying to assess what is going on at these appearances ... whether these 
‘protest zones’ are resuming,” he said.

“We are continuing to monitor all campaign events by both Republican and Democratic 
candidates. We’re prepared to go back into court if we see discrimination occurring.”

Because Bush’s Fourth of July stop in Charleston was billed as an official 
presidential visit, not a campaign rally, “That makes it an even more glaring 
violation of the First Amendment,” said Andrew Schneider, executive director of the 
ACLU of West Virginia.

“It’s an Orwellian way to keep speech out of sight of those the speech is intended to 
critique ... We want to nip this in the bud before it becomes a habit of future 
administrations.”

A Bush spokesman did not return a telephone call seeking comment on the necessity of 
the “free speech zone.”

To contact staff writer Tara Tuckwiller, use e-mail or call 348-5189. 



RE: We werent doing anything wrong

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004

 Original Message 
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: We werent doing anything wrong
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:26:53 -0400

 So...given the legal precedent, might a citizen's arrest of the arresting 
 agents be defensible in court? (This assumes that there are large numbers of 
 protestors, of course, willing to apprehend the rogue officers.)

AFAIK, citizens are still free to arrest anyone they see comitting a crime, however 
dangerous to one's health :)

It might be much more effective for some terminally ill 'demonstartors' to use some 
sort of difficult to detect explosives that they could detonate if an attempt were 
made to arrest them for asserting their right to free speeech.



RE: We werent doing anything wrong

2004-07-16 Thread Tyler Durden
So...given the legal precedent, might a citizen's arrest of the arresting 
agents be defensible in court? (This assumes that there are large numbers of 
protestors, of course, willing to apprehend the rogue officers.)

-TD

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We werent doing anything wrong
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:36:32 -0400
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/static/stories/2004071346.html
Couple in anti-Bush T-shirts were arrested at president’s speech
By Tara Tuckwiller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A husband and wife who wore anti-Bush T-shirts to the president’s Fourth of 
July appearance aren’t going down without a fight: They will be represented 
by lawyers from the American Civil Liberties Union as they contest the 
trespassing charges against them Thursday morning in Charleston Municipal 
Court.

Police took Nicole and Jeff Rank away in handcuffs from the event, which 
was billed as a presidential appearance, not a campaign rally. They were 
wearing T-shirts that read, “Love America, Hate Bush.”

Spectators who wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons were 
allowed to stay.

“We weren’t doing anything wrong,” said Jeff Rank. The couple, who said 
they had tickets just like everybody else, said they simply stood around 
the Capitol steps with the rest of the spectators.

“We sang the national anthem,” Rank said.
The Ranks hardly fit the image of rabble-rousers. Jeff Rank, 29, has a 
master’s degree in oceanography. Nicole Rank, 30, has degrees in biological 
science and marine biology. They have been married for seven years.

Nicole Rank arrived in Charleston soon after the Memorial Day floods. She 
was working as deputy environmental liaison officer for the Federal 
Emergency Management Agency, making sure cities and counties obeyed federal 
environmental laws as they repaired roads and bridges.

After police arrested the Ranks, fingerprinted them and took their mug 
shots, FEMA told Nicole Rank she was no longer needed in West Virginia.

“I have not been fired per se,” she said. “But I was released from this 
job. And when they release you from a job, you no longer get paid.”

The Ranks started to go home to Corpus Christi, Texas, but they only got as 
far as Roanoke, Va., when it occurred to them that they might not be able 
to contest their arrest if they weren’t in Charleston on their court date. 
A phone call confirmed their suspicions. So they turned around.

“We’ve been living in motels ever since,” said Jeff Rank, who spent Tuesday 
evening in his motel room with his wife, their cocker spaniel Feinman, and 
their marmalade cat Rowr.

“It’s extremely difficult [financially]. We can only afford to do this for 
so long.”

But they had to stay and fight the charges, he said, “because we didn’t 
think we were guilty.”

Since Bush took office in early 2001, people have been banned from 
displaying anti-Bush messages at dozens of Bush appearances across the 
country. In September, the ACLU filed a federal lawsuit against the Secret 
Service, seeking an injunction against the Bush administration for 
segregating protesters at his public appearances.

The Secret Service agreed that such censorship was wrong, said Witold 
Walczak, one of the lawyers that filed the lawsuit.

“They had an internal memo dated September 2002, saying they couldn’t treat 
protesters differently or worse” than anyone else at a presidential 
appearance, Walczak said. “The judge said any agent responsible for doing 
so could be held liable for damages.”

The Secret Service had been telling local police to sequester anyone 
displaying an anti-administration message, usually in areas completely out 
of sight and earshot of Bush. Because the Secret Service agreed with the 
ACLU that it shouldn’t be doing that, the judge dismissed the case.

“Prior to filing our suit in September, we’d get a couple of confirmed 
‘protest zone’ complaints every month,” Walczak said. “After we filed, 
there were practically none. We had two documented incidents between 
September and March: one in Little Rock, Ark., and one in Knoxville, Tenn.”

But now, lawyers like Walczak are carefully monitoring cases like the 
Ranks’ — and two similar incidents recently in Pennsylvania.

“We’re trying to assess what is going on at these appearances ... whether 
these ‘protest zones’ are resuming,” he said.

“We are continuing to monitor all campaign events by both Republican and 
Democratic candidates. We’re prepared to go back into court if we see 
discrimination occurring.”

Because Bush’s Fourth of July stop in Charleston was billed as an official 
presidential visit, not a campaign rally, “That makes it an even more 
glaring violation of the First Amendment,” said Andrew Schneider, executive 
director of the ACLU of West Virginia.

“It’s an Orwellian way to keep speech out of sight of those the speech is 
intended to critique ... We want to nip this in the bud before it becomes a 
habit of future administrations.”

A Bush spokesman did