Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks in the news lately. J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article about getting the company to agree to drop the hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network. Some of them are former CW customers, some are new, and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis, so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis. On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something. We'll see if they follow through. The actual memos are at http://www.savvis.info Other articles (mostly with greater detail) include: http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/news/2004/0908leakmemos.html http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/isptelecom/story/0,108 01,95769,00.html http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040908-4168.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3634572.stm http://techdirt.com/articles/20040908/103247.shtml http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4985alloc_id=10663site_id=1request_id=1806376 -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF ...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them. Osama Bin Laden - - - There aught to be limits to freedom!George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks in the news lately. J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article about getting the company to agree to drop the hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network. Some of them are former CW customers, some are new, and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis, so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis. On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something. We'll see if they follow through.
Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)
I see Savvis has a sales office in a Building I used to work in here in NYC. They also seem to be be somewhat deadbeat-ish with respect to paying some of their bills, so I bet they need that Spam revenue. That exec probably needed that revenue in order to qualify for some absurd bonus. -TD From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:45:52 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks in the news lately. J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article about getting the company to agree to drop the hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network. Some of them are former CW customers, some are new, and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis, so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis. On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something. We'll see if they follow through. The actual memos are at http://www.savvis.info Other articles (mostly with greater detail) include: http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/news/2004/0908leakmemos.html http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/isptelecom/story/0,108 01,95769,00.html http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040908-4168.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3634572.stm http://techdirt.com/articles/20040908/103247.shtml http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4985alloc_id=10663site_id=1request_id=1806376 -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF ...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them. Osama Bin Laden - - - There aught to be limits to freedom!George Bush - - - Which one scares you more? _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: I see Savvis has a sales office in a Building I used to work in here in NYC. They also seem to be be somewhat deadbeat-ish with respect to paying some of their bills, Um, yeah They even forgot to pay the renewal for their domain name around two years ago! Now *that* was funny! so I bet they need that Spam revenue. That exec probably needed that revenue in order to qualify for some absurd bonus. That is *precisely* how it works. No makie the numbers, no takeee the $500,000.00 (really) annual bonus. -TD -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF ...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them. Osama Bin Laden - - - There aught to be limits to freedom!George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec
--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Syverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul Syverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Primary NymIP discussion list nymip-res-group.nymip.org List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://www.nymip.org/mailman/listinfo/nymip-res-group, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://www.nymip.org/pipermail/nymip-res-group/ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:24:53 -0400 - Forwarded message from Catherine Meadows [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Catherine Meadows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 11:29:56 -0400 Paul: The IETF has been discussing setting up a working group for anonymous IPSec. They will have a BOF at the next IETF in DC in November. They're also setting up a mailing list you might be interested in if you haven't heard about it already. Information is below. At 10:08 PM -0700 9/6/04, Joe Touch wrote: Hi, all, To follow-up on related presentations at both SAAG and TCPM, we've created a mailing list for discussions of anonymous security. Further information on the list and how to join it, as well as pointers to related resources can be found at: http://www.postel.org/anonsec The mailing list address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Cathy - End forwarded message - ___ NymIP-res-group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nymip.org/mailman/listinfo/nymip-res-group --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec
The IETF has been discussing setting up a working group for anonymous IPSec. They will have a BOF at the next IETF in DC in November. They're also setting up a mailing list you might be interested in if you haven't heard about it already. ... http://www.postel.org/anonsec To clarify, this is not really anonymous in the usual sense. Rather it is a proposal to an extension to IPsec to allow for unauthenticated connections. Presently IPsec relies on either pre-shared secrets or a trusted third party CA to authenticate the connection. The new proposal would let connections go forward using a straight Diffie-Hellman type exchange without authentication. It also proposes less authentication of IP message packets, covering smaller subsets, as an option. The point has nothing to do with anonymity; rather it is an attempt to secure against weaknesses in TCP which have begun to be exploited. Sequence number guessing attacks are more successful today because of increasing bandwidth, and there have been several instances where they have caused disruption on the net. While workarounds are in place, a better solution is desirable. This new effort is Joe Touch's proposal to weaken IPsec so that it uses less resources and is easier to deploy. He calls the weaker version AnonSec. But it is not anonymous, all the parties know the addresses of their counterparts. Rather, it allows for a degree of security on connections between communicators who don't share any secrets or CAs. I don't think anonymous is the right word for this, and I hope the IETF comes up with a better one as they go forward. Hal Finney
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BrinCity 2.0: Mayor outlines elaborate camera network for city
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/print_090904_ap_ns_camera.html ABC7Chicago.com: Mayor outlines elaborate camera network for city By Paul Meincke September 9, 2004 (Chicago) - From a hi-tech command center, the City of Chicago plans to monitor a vast security network. Thousands of surveillance cameras will be linked -- and authorities will be alerted to crimes and terrorist acts. The mayor unveiled the plans for this new security network at a news conference this morning. Some people are concerned about Big Brother invading their privacy but Mayor Daley says the cameras will be located in public areas. The technology that is now so much a part of crime-fighting and anti-terrorism has gone -- as one police spokesman says -- from Stone Age to Star Wars in less than a decade. This step in the evolution will link more than 2,000 public surveillance cameras in Chicago into a unified system. George Orwell might be restless that Big Brother is growing, but the city believes that more efficient response to emergency will help the public rest easier There are, of course, thousands of cameras watching -- it seems -- everywhere. The city's plan is to route the live images provided by those cameras on the public way into a unified network piped into the 911 Center. That includes every city department. That includes the Chicago public schools, the CTA, city colleges. That includes the park district, any other sister agencies that have cameras out there, said Mayor Daley. There are well over 2,000 cameras that the city and its sister agencies -- like the school system -- monitor everyday. The city is adding another 250 cameras to potential high risk areas, most of them downtown. For instance, if there is a crime on a CTA platform-- most of which are or will be equipped with surveillance cameras, a call to 911 will activate a video link-up. When the system determines there's a camera in the vicinity of the 911 call, it will automatically beam back an image to the call-taker of the origin of where it occurred, said Ron Huberman, Emergency Mgt. and Com. Dir. The 911 dispatcher will have -- in many cases -- the ability to remotely control cameras at the scene of a crime miles away. The system is also equipped with software that can alert the 911 Center to changes in traffic flow, or the presence of people where they're not supposed to be. If this is a water filtration plant or a field in O'Hare where no one should be walking, it will issue an alert that someone is walking, said Huberman. All those images will be monitored in a room that is under construction as the 911 Operations Center. In 18-months it will look more like the bridge of the Starship Enterprise with a wall of 200 constantly changing images. How the software is tweaked will determine which pictures pop up, which the city says will greatly enhance emergency response. The mayor dismisses concerns about invasion of privacy since the cameras record what happens on the public way. You could photograph me walking down the street. They do it every day. I don't object. You do it every day. You have that right. Why do you have that right? said Mayor Daley. Critics say the cameras ought not be regarded as a panacea in crime fighting. They say the more there are, the greater the potential for abuse. In some Chicago neighborhoods, the cameras have led to a marked reduction in crime. The new unified system is being financed by a $5 million grant from the Department of Homeland Security and is scheduled to be up and running in 18 months. It will also have the capacity to watch crowds at the marathon downtown, football games, etc... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
