Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth

2004-12-23 Thread Tyler Durden
No way it's Dave Emory...they did an IP Traceroute and the guy appears to be 
in Germany. If you've listened to Emory's shows, you'd know from some of his 
technical statements that he most likely wouldn't be capable of this. I also 
simply can't imagine him bothering with something like this.

On the other hand, the perpetrator of this hoax knows a decent amount about 
a variety of subjects (including technical ones). After sleeping on it, I'm 
starting to think he's actually some kind of German conspiracy 'theorist' 
who's actually been snooping the WiFi, etc...of some interesting locations. 
He probably saw a "pattern" and convinced himself he had to save the world.

It's a very interesting thread to say the least. Forget whether Paul 
Wolfowitz has some "Hidden Hand" master plan...it'll probably make 
Dis-information History one day.

-TD
From: Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:36:36 -0800
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:48:01PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Oh no, it gets really interesting. He claims to be an ex-German TLA-type
> (how many Ls do German TLAs normally have?), and had advanced knowledge 
of
> 9/11. That's not super-implausible.

[..]
> Me? I suspect he just pulled all this shit from David Emory's shows and 
then
> added some nice google tech searches.

[..]
> I was hoping someone knew about this and had already hacked this hoax,
If he sounds like Dave Emory, then there isn't much debunking that's 
required.

Food for thought and grounds for further research,
Eric



Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth

2004-12-23 Thread Eric Murray
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:48:01PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Oh no, it gets really interesting. He claims to be an ex-German TLA-type 
> (how many Ls do German TLAs normally have?), and had advanced knowledge of 
> 9/11. That's not super-implausible.

[..]

> Me? I suspect he just pulled all this shit from David Emory's shows and then 
> added some nice google tech searches.

[..]

> I was hoping someone knew about this and had already hacked this hoax, 


If he sounds like Dave Emory, then there isn't much debunking that's required.

Food for thought and grounds for further research,

Eric



Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth

2004-12-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Oh no, it gets really interesting. He claims to be an ex-German TLA-type 
(how many Ls do German TLAs normally have?), and had advanced knowledge of 
9/11. That's not super-implausible.

What's really interesting is that he claims the German TLAs have a new round 
of strong evidence showing that there's a nuke buried in Houston somewhere 
that's going to be set off on 12/27. He's tied in all sorts of shadowy 
agencies along with internal politcs causing the info not to be acted upon.

Even that would be worthy of ignoring, but he's actually told this story 
extremely well, naming fairly obscure (but real) names in the intelligence 
community and so on. The guy's posts have actually made some serious waves 
on a bunch of boards.

Me? I suspect he just pulled all this shit from David Emory's shows and then 
added some nice google tech searches. WiFi I know was cracked wide open a 
while back, and that wasn't exactly a secret (it's the reason for 802.11x). 
BUT, add knowledge of this to the conspiracy theories to the politics and 
you have a guy who has gone to great lengths to create an excellent hoax. 
Indeed, one can only imagine that the reason for something like this has to 
go way beyond mere hoaxing (eg, the guy's a neo-Nazi?)

I was hoping someone knew about this and had already hacked this hoax, 
because so far I haven't seen anything that conclusively debunks this guy.

-TD


From: Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:36:58 +0100
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:13:52PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
> "Here4s another myth: you cannot hack bluetooth from a distance of more
> than 40 metres. Not true. My technical partner Felix can crack it at 
over
> half a kilometre. Which is why he enjoys driving around so much in areas

The official record right now is 1.74 km:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49907
http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_bluebug.html#news
No doubt you can do much better with a large dish, and good alignment, as
well as a clear line of sight.
> where we know British, American, Israeli or Russian ops are living or
> working. The great thing about many German cities is that most 
affordable
> residences are within metres of the street anyway."
>
> Any comments?

Bluetooth attacks aren't exactly new. No idea what else that tinfoil-hatted
person is spouting.
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News on the Skype reverse-engineering front

2004-12-23 Thread Ralf-Philipp Weinmann
I thought this might be of interest for the list, but haven't seen it 
mentioned/discussed here: Some progress has been made 
reverse-engineering the Skype protocol [1]. No details on the crypto 
implementation yet, but first attempts to understand the P2P model they 
use.

Cheers,
Ralf
[1] S. A. Baset and H. Schulzrinne
An Analysis of the Skype Peer-to-Peer Internel Telephony Protocol
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs.NI/0412017
[2] H.T. Kung: CS143: Computer Networks (P2P VoIP)
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/cs143/slides/2004-12-02-p2p-voip.pdf


All your wavelengths belong to us (or Powell, or the SS)

2004-12-23 Thread Major Variola (ret)
The FCC is trying to shut down a guerilla radio station in DC
calling for protests during Bush's January re-anoint^H^H^H^H^H

Google for it.