Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-09 Thread James A. Donald
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On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:18, D. Popkin wrote:
 Yes, but Big Brother governments are not the only way such
 wisdom gets imposed.  Bill Gates came close to imposing it
 upon all of us, and if it hadn't been for Richard Stallman
 and Linus Torvalds, we might all be suffering under that yoke
 today.

There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating
system, so Linus did.

If, however, you decline to pay taxes, men with guns will
attack you.

That is the difference between private power and government
power.


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Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:09:56AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:

 There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating
 system, so Linus did.

Yes. Corporate lawyers descending upon your ass, because you -- allegedly --
are in violation of some IP somewhere. See you in court.
 
 If, however, you decline to pay taxes, men with guns will
 attack you.

If you ignore a kkkorporate cease  desist, men with guns will get you, too.
Eventually. Corporations can play the system, whether they hire bandits, or
use the legal system, or buy a politician to pass a law.
 
 That is the difference between private power and government
 power.

There is no difference. Both are coercive. Some of the rules are good for
you, some are good for the larger assembly of agents, some are broken on
arrival.

We need smarter agents. 

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Re: RSA Conference, and BA Cypherpunks

2005-02-09 Thread Tyler Durden
How 'bout laying siege to May's compound as a Cypherpunk 'team-building' 
excersize?

-TD

From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], cryptography@metzdowd.com
Subject: Re: RSA Conference, and BA Cypherpunks
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:19:30 -0600 (CST)
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Trei, Peter wrote:
 Once again, the RSA Conference is upon us, and many of the
 corrospondents on these lists will be in San Francisco. I'd like to
 see if anyone is interested in getting together. We've done this
 before.
Yeah, but can we eat food, drink beer, shoot drugs and screw expensive
hookers at Tim May's compound?
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