RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having

2005-09-08 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:16 PM -0400 9/7/05, Ulex Europae wrote:
Okay, I've been in a hole in the ground for a few years. What happened
to Tim May?

See below.

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having

2005-09-08 Thread Ulex Europae
Okay, I've been in a hole in the ground for a few years. What happened
to Tim May?

At 13:55 07-09-05 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Like I said:

We need a WiFi VoIP over Tor app pronto! Let 'em CALEA -that-. Only then 
will the ghost of Tim May rest in piece.

Then again, the FBI probably loves hanging out in Starbucks anyway...

-TD



Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble on the Line, Aug. 15)]

2005-09-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 05:31:32AM +0100, Dave Howe wrote:

   Don't really need one. the Skype concept of supernodes - users that relay
 conversations for other users - could be used just as simply, and is

What hinders Mallory from running most of supernodes?

 Starbucks-compatable. If the feds had to try and monitor traffic for every 
 VoIP
 user that could potentially be used as a relay (*and* prove that any outbound
 traffic from their target wasn't relayed traffic from another user) life would
 get much harder for them much faster.
   Plus of course some sort of assurance that skype's crypto isn't snakeoil :)

It is snake oil until proven otherwise.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble on the Line, Aug. 15)]

2005-09-08 Thread Dave Howe
Tyler Durden wrote:
 We need a WiFi VoIP over Tor app pronto! Let 'em CALEA -that-. Only then
 will the ghost of Tim May rest in piece.
  Don't really need one. the Skype concept of supernodes - users that relay
conversations for other users - could be used just as simply, and is
Starbucks-compatable. If the feds had to try and monitor traffic for every VoIP
user that could potentially be used as a relay (*and* prove that any outbound
traffic from their target wasn't relayed traffic from another user) life would
get much harder for them much faster.
  Plus of course some sort of assurance that skype's crypto isn't snakeoil :)



Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having

2005-09-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:16:31PM -0400, Ulex Europae wrote:
 Okay, I've been in a hole in the ground for a few years. What happened
 to Tim May?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=start=0scoring=denc_author=8NH-JhofCMh-TnQo0KXFjppET7C1dSi2gjvQCgNblIvwKtcqeQhl=en;

Nobody of importance, just an Usenet troll.

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble on the Line, Aug. 15)]

2005-09-08 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Tyler Durden wrote:

 Like I said:

 We need a WiFi VoIP over Tor app pronto! Let 'em CALEA -that-. Only then
 will the ghost of Tim May rest in piece.

Somehoe, I don't see the [legitimate] ghost of Tim May finding either rest
nor peace.


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