Re: Michael Moore in Cambridge (download speech)
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:35:08 -0400, Pete Capelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The file will be available for download a short period of time. Michael shows us what the upcoming election is all about. It's all about a promotion tour for his movie? Yeah, and Paul Revere rode to Lexington to promote his silversmithing business. A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing. Mr. Moore speaks eloquently for the Left, the Center, and even former right-wing folks like me to join forces to get rid of the most cynical, opportunistic, divisive, and un-American administration since Richard Nixon's. Don't whine next year about the terrible Administration if you don't take your chance this year to replace it with a much more reasonable one. Howie Goodell -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goodL.org Hardware control Info Visualization User interface UMass Lowell Computer Science Doctoral Candidate
Re: Michael Moore in Cambridge (download speech)
Since I introduced the term referring to the Bush Administration -- a poor attempt at irony, but what I had in mind was the sort of American ideals embodied in our Declaration of Independence, preamble and Constitution and Bill of Rights, along with the ways these ideals worked in practice to help create a much more desirable society over the past couple centuries than countries similarly blessed with resources (Russia, Argentina.) So a few examples. More than any administration I can remember since Nixon's, this administration has disregarded, actively opposed, or perverted: Declaration of Independence: equality, human rights. Preamble to the Constitution: a more perfect Union, justice, liberty Constitution -- torn down separation of powers, many others Bill of Rights -- read the list! Mr. Moore's speech was a rallying cry to take back our government. Would John Kerry drag us into Iraq? Would he run obscene deficits? (Hint: check his record from Graham Rudman on.) Would he raid the last of the Social Security surplus to line his friends' pockets? He may have voted for Patriot I (along with virtually the whole Congress), but he's making restoring our rights a major issue. I think one of the philosophers said the key to knowledge is not seeing similarities, but differences. Howie Goodell On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:08:29 +0200 (CEST), Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Pete Capelli wrote: Being still currently undecided myself (although living in one of the 32 or so 'pre-ordained' states) I found this speech to be most cynical, opportunistic, divisive, and un-American ones I've listend to in awhile. Define un-American, please? E3-I: This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by UML's antivirus scanning services. -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goodL.org Hardware control Info Visualization User interface UMass Lowell Computer Science Doctoral Candidate
Re: Final stage
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:26:59 -0400 (edt), Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: Praise Allah! The spires of the West will soon come crashing down! SCREED Deleted Laying it on just a little thick, no? Here we go again. Get ready for more FUD from the LEO's, I can see Fox news now. Cypherpunks a hotbed of crypto-anarchist scum is now being used by Al Qaeda to setup new terrorist attacks... Expect to see a sidebar about rogue or evil anonymous remailers and how they're un-patriotic, etc. Bah, some feeb had too one too many Crappachino's with lunch today and pulled a Cornholio :( A few years ago it was requests on how to make bombs, now it's this shit. The UBL is GW message sounded provocateurish, too. Howie Goodell -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goodL.org Hardware control Info Visualization User interface UMass Lowell Computer Science Doctoral Candidate
Re: Final stage
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:27:17 -0500 (CDT), J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Howie Goodell wrote: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. No tls for gmail? Booo!!! I asked a friend what he thought Google would market to someone with an Inbox crammed with cpunks messages. He suggested, Legal services? Howie Goodell -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goodL.org Hardware control Info Visualization User interface UMass Lowell Computer Science Doctoral Candidate
Re: UBL is George Washington
OK -- some comments. First, IMHO one confusing and perhaps confused post; I'm not sure I get the point. Second, to be specific, bin Laden isn't George Washington, but in at least one respect he is LIKE others who struggled to keep their countries from being dominated by foreigners. George Washington was one such leader. Vlad the Impaler was another (for the history-challenged, this original for the legendary Count Dracula temporarily saved Romania from being overrun by the Ottoman Turks, by massacring hundreds of thousands of them, mostly by impaling them on sharpened stakes.) Mahatma Gandhi was another. I think Vlad the Impaler was Gandhi or vice-versa is about as apt a comparison as Washington and bin Laden. For starters, I think the use of terrorism is a moral a distinction worth making. Murdering thousands of civilians is not the same thing as attacking enemy troops. (To be consistent, the plane that hit the Pentagon was not terrorism, but a military attack with civilian collateral damage.) Finally, while I (and John Kerry) agree that independence from Mideast oil is a wiser goal than our current slavish devotion to the Saudis, or military domination of the whole area, I think isolationism in the age of the Internet is absurd. The 3-mile limit was the range of cannonballs, and ABMs are about as useful against many threats we already face. Like it or not, we Americans are part of one planet, and we had better get better at it than we've been lately. Howie Goodell On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 21:16:32 -0700, Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:58 PM 7/1/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: Submitted for comment :-) ...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them. Osama Bin Laden UBL's morals, which he unfortunately gets from a book (being a smart guy, he could derive them himself like any half-cluefull atheist), are largely convergent with the pre-Judaic/Xian culture the Moslems forked a few hundred years ago. (And what, Haiwatha rooted the tree some time ago?) Ie, as the Gadsen flag says, Don't tread on me. However, this is contrary to the methods of colonial agents, eg. Romans, Brits, and Yanks. Where yanks includes neocons. At this point I will quote the reluctant general, Trade with all, make treaties with none, and beware of foreign entanglements. -George Washington Where you can replace all with oil and none with Israel. Etc. Personally I think North America can be energy sufficient (nuke coal sands) but this is an engineering/political issue. Morally I think our influence stops within 3 miles of our coasts, and as high as out ABMs can reach. E3-I: This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by UML's antivirus scanning services. -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goodL.org Hardware control Info Visualization User interface UMass Lowell Computer Science Doctoral Candidate
Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power
Tim May wrote: For example, the space program. The Moon Flag Planting cost about 100,000 slave-lives (about $125 thousand milliion in today's dollars) to finance. It distorted the market for things like single stage to orbit, which might have happened otherwise. And it created a bureaucracy more intent on spreading pork to Huntsville, Houston, Canaveral, and other pork sites. (Surprising that Robert Byrd failed to get WVa picked as the control center. He was too junior then, probably.) Tim, I read that the otherwise unimpressive International Space Station is utter genius in one respect: it has a subcontractor in *every single one* of the 435 House member's districts. Howie Goodell -- Howie Goodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] *control, embedded and user interface SW consulting* Doctoral Candidate HCI Rsch Grp CompSci UMass Lowell http://HowieGoodell.home.attbi.com
