Re: CDR: Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.

2002-06-20 Thread measl


On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, David G. Koontz wrote:

> Whats next, censorship?

Yes.

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Re: Theft Attempt or LEO Sting?

2002-06-15 Thread measl


On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote:

> At 12:21 AM -0700 on 6/15/02, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> 
> 
> > The security is proportional to wetware cycles burned per transaction.
> 
> I guess I don't think that's right.
> 
> Sooner, hopefully rather than later, machines will be able to buy things
> from other machines using on-line cash.
> 
> The risk will be absorbed by having a multitude of underwriters of cash
> instead of a single issuer for all cash, so you're partly right.
> 
> But the point is, you can have an authenticated on-line transaction, at
> least at a risk low enough to move all kinds of money around safely.

With all due respect, if this were [yet] true, I submit it would be
happening.

> 
> Cheers,
> RAH
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Of interest to many of you.

2002-06-13 Thread measl


>From an LEO friend:


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing
violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their
parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents
should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations
of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free
Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FC: How to patent a Harvard scientist (his parents' idea) (fwd)

Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing
violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their
parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents
should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations
of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free
Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm




Re: CDR: RE: Degrees of Freedom vs. Hollywood Control Freaks

2002-06-05 Thread measl


On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Jim Choate wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
> 
> > Well, I'm convinced - I guess that's why every single album today is
> > released on both CD *and* vinyl - can't piss off the tens of millions of 
> > turntable owners, after all. 
> 
> That's not correct. There are lots of albums (aimed at DJ's for example)
> that are -NEVER- available except on vinyl. 

Ok, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't they officially cease
production of vinyl pressings several years ago?  As in *all* vinyl
pressings???

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: your mail

2002-05-31 Thread measl



On Thu, 30 May 2002, Natalia wrote:

> QUIT

More specific please?  Quit diddling my data?  Quit typing so loud after
10:00pm?  Quit my job???


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Re: sources on steganography

2002-05-30 Thread measl


Jesus christ Hector!  What the fuck are you planning to be when you grow
up?  A funeral director or something?  Grow a sense of humor for
chrissakes.  Or get lost, whichever is easier.




On Thu, 30 May 2002, Hector Rosario wrote:

> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:41:54 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Hector Rosario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Morlock Elloi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CDR: Re: sources on steganography
> 
> Why would I be interested in "fool[ing] [you]." All I asked was for some
> help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a
> hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what
> drives you, then I suggest that you work on that.
> 
> hr
> 
> On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> 
> > > I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a
> >     ^ ^   ^  ^ ^
> >
> > You can't fool us.
> >
> >
> >
> > =
> > end
> > (of original message)
> >
> > Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows:
> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> 
> 

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Spoliation

2002-05-14 Thread measl


Yeah, I know, this is long gone... But... I still thought there would be
interest.

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Rae Cogar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:26 AM
Subject: website case


> Here is a recently reported case from California that found a company
> guilty of spoliation of evidence by changing information on their
> website during litigation.   One point made by the court in this case is
> there were no policies or procedures for the updating or deleting of
> material from the website.  You can find this opinion at:
>
>
>
http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/tentrule.nsf/4f9d4c4a03b0cf70882567980073b
> 2e4/cf68f686007991fa88256af1006a9e16?OpenDocument
>
> (you will need to cut and paste url)
>
> Spoliation Sanctions for Deletion of Web Page
> The defendant corporation moved to dismiss for lack of personal
> jurisdiction, denying minimum contacts with the state of California.
> The plaintiff offered as evidence a page from the defendant's web site
> that listed a California office address.  While the motion was pending,
> the California address disappeared from the defendant's web site.
> Though one employee of the defendant testified that he had deleted the
> page in routine maintenance, there was no corporate maintenance policy
> that would explain the deletion.  The court granted the plaintiff's
> motion to enjoin further spoliation and ordered that the defendant pay
> plaintiff's attorney's fees as a sanction. Pennar Software Corp. v.
> Fortune 500 Sys., 51 Fed. R. Serv. 279 (N.D. Cal. 2001).
>
>
> Another case for good records management!
>
> Rae Cogar, Esq.
> RCS Consulting
> Hamburg, NY  716-646-6192
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: CDR: Jimbos spam

2002-05-05 Thread measl


On Sun, 5 May 2002, Al Haqq wrote:

> If you read the headers you will see the spam is comming
> from Jimbo.
> We can all read slashdot why does he spam this list with it.
> Why does he let the porn through his node,read the headers.
> Non of his postings are on topic,this is cyperpunks not yahoo.
> 

> In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful



Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath
Power; 

He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in
deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving; 

He Who created the seven heavens one above another: no want of
proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn
thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? 

Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to
thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. 

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Jimbos spam

2002-05-05 Thread measl


On Sun, 5 May 2002, Al Haqq wrote:

> I notice when Jimbo is asked to stop spaming he does it even more
> 
> He has been sending his spam all day, today
> 
> In my part the world this would be called a mental problem.

Much of "Jim's Spam" is the work of an imposter, likely Mattd.  Regardless of
that however, there are filtered versions of this list - if you don't like
it, leave: vote with your feet.

> In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful

Alif lam mim.

> Get Your Free Email at www.ajeeb.com



-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Re: Spam and Porn from EINSTEIN

2002-05-04 Thread measl


On Sat, 4 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote:

> Slightly unrelated, sort of poll:
> 
> Would anyone object if mail list software would limit number of daily messages
> from the same source* to an arbitary percentage of total messages from all
> sources ?

Yes.

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






[303] If you're sick of crypto talk don't read this (fwd)

2002-04-16 Thread measl


Just to add to the saga...

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:47:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Person <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [303] If you're sick of crypto talk don't read this


Quote from
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/technotes/bernstein.html:

'Finally, the recent concern [2] [3] [9] about the security of 1024-bit
RSA keys is based in part on a misreading of Bernstein's paper. These
references quote an estimate that for about $1 billion, a national agency
could build a factoring machine based on Bernstein's design that could
break a 1024-bit RSA key in a matter of "seconds to minutes". However, a
factor of 10 billion or more was inadvertently left out of the running
time in the preliminary analysis --- which means that the actual running
time, assuming the machine could be built, would be measured in decades
(see Note 1). Moreover, Bernstein himself is quoted [5] as saying "This is
a theoretical advance. I have no idea and nobody else has any idea how
practical it might be."'

Now granted, RSA has a vested interest in calming down the FUD on the
perceived weakening of cryptosystems based on IFP (of which they are the
most popular), but they raise a valid point.

The preliminary analysis that Bernstein described was hardware-implemented
circuits to do odd/even transposition sorting and then to find smooth
numbers (an integer with no prime factors).  This would be done (in
theory) via RAM sieving, parallel trial division, or parallel elliptic
curve methods.  It's unclear as to which method would be the most
efficient in hardware.

In fact, the methodology outlined in page eight of Bernstein's paper
(http://cr.yp.to/papers/nfscircuit.ps) is extremely theoretical, to the
point of casting doubt on whether it's even worth discussing the NFS
itself without another five or six years of research on these preliminary
operations.

Something I've said time and again, that RSA won't say, is this: if you
are worried about the security of your RSA public key based on it's
seemingly obsolete size but you don't want to deal with the processor
overhead of doubling your RSA keysize, just switch to an equivalent size
Diffie-Hellman key.  Easy as that.

[t]





Re: CDR: RE: mil disinfo on cryptome (and sec clearance games)

2002-04-07 Thread measl



Note that you also [explicitly] waive your search and siezure rights (at
least this was the case the last time I looked at the forms for TS) - not a
nice thing :-(

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote:

> Another reason: once you get a clearance, you can't speak
> freely.  The latest _Tech Review_ interviews an MIT Prof Postol,
> who has been pointing out the lies behind Raytheon's Patriot
> missile and the anti-ballistic missile sham.  Reportedly,
> some friendly DoD folks came to him and asked him to read
> a classified report that would put some of his technical worries at
> ease.
> Postol refused, knowing that this is a scheme used to silence
> folks --having been exposed to classified info, you have to
> watch what you say.  If you figure it out from open data +
> general science, you can speak your mind.
> 
> (BTW The basic deception is, if our gizmo can't discriminate this kind
> of decoy, well, don't use that kind of decoy in the tests..)
> 
> 

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

2002-04-07 Thread measl


On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > You've been listening to Shrub to much.   What makes you think this is about
> > hating freedom?  Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking
> > business???
> 
> I really don't give a fig about the opinions of the current resident of
> the White House. I've been studying terror and its practitioners for
> about 25 years and I know their mentality.
> 
> I'm sorry you've bought the terrorist line that it's all about US
> support for Israel. 

Interesting reaction.  I never mentioned Israel, nor do I think that the US
support of Israel is what "it's all about" - although that is likely a good
sized piece of it.  Judging from your response, I'd say you were the one who
has bought into someone's "line".

> I know better.

They always do...

> We could withdraw from the Middle
> East tomorrow, and all that would change would be the excuse.

You have so completely missed the point here that it's almost comical.  The
fact that we provide aid and encouragement to the nazi-like Israeli's is but
a small part of our problem.
 
> Marc de Piolenc


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook

2002-04-06 Thread measl


On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:

> A terrorist attacks a target conveniently designated by him as SYMBOLIC
> of his chosen adversary; the target is preferably unsuspecting and
> undefended. The ultimate purpose is to frighten his adversary, or
> somebody with influence on that adversary,

So far, so good, but from here we disagree.

> into harming himself.

Strike out "harming himself" - insert "into taking some specific action(s)".

> In the
> case of most current terrorist organizations, the target is liberal
> western republics, and the aim is to instill fear that will be manifest
> in repression that will in effect dismantle the freedom that the
> terrorists hate.

You've been listening to Shrub to much.   What makes you think this is about
hating freedom?  Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking
business???


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...






Re: CDR: I have OCD and need help

2002-03-26 Thread measl

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, John P. Clarke wrote:

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:44:56 From: John P. Clarke
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: I have OCD and need help
> 
> 
> I've read books, done therapy, and consulted with many for over 16 years
> without any substantial progress.  Among other problems, I need to deal
> with a mental compulsion to break apart words and phrases into
> symmetrical groups, the continual counting and sorting of everything I
> see, and the uncontrollable parade of ideas in my head competing for
> attention.  This interferes with concentration, impairs decision-making,
> and leads to frustration and depression.
> 
> I would welcome suggestions, possible solutions, reference materials,
> referrals, anything you might recommend.  Please email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Suicide.  Clean, easy, to the point...

> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> John P. Clarke

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...