Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 07:01 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't exactly express my rage accurately... -TD Rage isn't tactical. Don't forget that the revenge is best when consumed cold. :) Only sometimes true. More often than not, lack of rage means watching more t.v. Rage is what often fuels freedom fighters to destroy buildings where the oppressors live. Rage is what causes assassins to kill those who need killing. Without rage, Kennedy, King, and Kennedy might still be alive. Rage is what will spread crypto anarchy. Fuck those who have stolen our liberties. Fuck them dead. Fuck 50 million of them. Send them up the chimneys. Turn them into soap. Slag them. Liquify them. Rage ennobles, and enables. --Tim May, Corralitos, California Quote of the Month: "It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes; perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks." --Cathy Young, "Reason Magazine," both enemies of liberty.
Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
> Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't > exactly express my rage accurately... > -TD Rage isn't tactical. Don't forget that the revenge is best when consumed cold. :)
Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
Vandalism is wrong. Yeah, ain't that a shame? Sure is fun though! Education isn't. Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't exactly express my rage accurately... -TD Next time you fly, you could leave some flyers in the terminal. They'll get cleaned up, and when the TSA transition from merely pawing through your briefcase to reading the papers, that stack of "Boycott the TSA Stooges" flyers will probably get noticed, and of course there's the problem that if you're not flying Delta, you've got to word your flyer more creatively "Think you're preserving your privacy by not flying Delta? Think Again! Those Boycottdelta.com folks may be picking on the latest new collaborator, but your airline is also giving your flight information to Convicted Perjurer Ex-Admiral Poindexter's Total Information Awareness Office" Back when I was occasionally flying through O'Hare a few years ago, and they started alternating announcements about how you shouldn't leave your baggage unattended or it would be confiscated by the police, it was really tempting to print up some flyers about how Unattended Luggage Will Be Collected by Chicago's Hire-The-Homeless Program (with optional signature "The Mgt"...) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: CDR: Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 08:49 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: [...] > >I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a > >Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for > >Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get you arrested...) [...] > Vandalism is wrong. (Oh, wait, are you the Fed? :-) > Education isn't. Anyone want to pay some random schmuck to rant at the SFO "free speech" stations? I never listened when I lived there, but usually there was someone standing in front of the ranter, trying to get away. It would be amusing, at least. And I'm sure there's an out of work dotcommunist or two left who would fight The Man for $50 a day or so, at the cost of their immortal FBI record. -j -- Jamie Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wealth governs this country, and wealth uses military violence to control the rest of the world the best it can. And we're responsible. And we will pay the price for it." - former US Attorney General, Ramsey Clark
Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
At 08:49 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Just some out of the box thinking here about Delta... I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get you arrested...) (Vandalism has always been one of my favorite forms of instant protest.) I think a much more effective form of protest is to place so many people on the negative list that it becomes ineffective. One way, is to post high-res copies of people's driver's licenses for download and offer to purchase airline tickets under the DL holder's name for anyone who'll pay by e-gold, ALTA/DMT or maybe money order. The first few thousand people posters will, of course, be hassled by LE and probably placed on the RED list. But if tens of thousands do this its very likely to make their negative list ineffective. If someone is willing to put up a site I'm sure we can find some willing libertarians to post their DL images. steve
Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
At 08:49 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Just some out of the box thinking here about Delta... I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get you arrested...) (Vandalism has always been one of my favorite forms of instant protest.) Vandalism is wrong. (Oh, wait, are you the Fed? :-) Education isn't. Next time you fly, you could leave some flyers in the terminal. They'll get cleaned up, and when the TSA transition from merely pawing through your briefcase to reading the papers, that stack of "Boycott the TSA Stooges" flyers will probably get noticed, and of course there's the problem that if you're not flying Delta, you've got to word your flyer more creatively "Think you're preserving your privacy by not flying Delta? Think Again! Those Boycottdelta.com folks may be picking on the latest new collaborator, but your airline is also giving your flight information to Convicted Perjurer Ex-Admiral Poindexter's Total Information Awareness Office" Back when I was occasionally flying through O'Hare a few years ago, and they started alternating announcements about how you shouldn't leave your baggage unattended or it would be confiscated by the police, it was really tempting to print up some flyers about how Unattended Luggage Will Be Collected by Chicago's Hire-The-Homeless Program (with optional signature "The Mgt"...)
Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines
Just some out of the box thinking here about Delta... I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get you arrested...) (Vandalism has always been one of my favorite forms of instant protest.) -TD From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CAPPS II protest - Boycotting collaborating airlines Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:59:42 -0800 On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: From: Bill Scannell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Email on your BoycottDelta ? In response to Delta Air Line's utter lack of concern with the privacy of their customers demonstrated by their participation in a test of the CAPPS II system, a Delta disinvestment campaign has been launched at: http://www.boycottdelta.org . The idea of citizens having to undergo a background investigation that includes personal banking information and a credit check simply to travel in his or her own country is invasive and un-American. The CAPPS II system goes far beyond what any thinking citizen of this country should consider reasonable. I believe a big part of the motivation for CAPPS II is to get access to more and more of the credit and banking information. People have to travel, and if by traveling they have to consent to having their bank information turned over to Big Brother, guess who benefits? CAPPS II is just one of the input sources for Total Information Awareness, the computerized realization of Orwell's worst nightmares. I expect the same sort of "voluntary mandatory" waiver of privacy rights will soon be happening with driver's licenses, gun purchases, and even enrollment in schools. "No, you don't have to sign this waiver authoring the Department of Homeland Security to examine your bank accounts, your credit card purchases, your Customer Courtesy Card purchases at grocery stores, your video rental records. You are free not to sign the waiver. And we are free not to give you a driver's license. Driving is a privilege granted by the state, not a right!" "If you don't sign this waiver, your child cannot be enrolled at Winston Smith Elementary. You don't want terrorist children in our school, now do you?" And so on. I've already created a .sig to use for my support of this boycott. May Delta Airlines be the next turkey to declare bankruptcy!! --Tim May Join the boycott against Delta Airlines for their support of the Big Brotherish "CAPPS II" citizen-unit tracking program. http://www.boycottdelta.org http://boycottdelta.org/images/deltaeyebanner.gif With our help, Delta Airlines may be joining United and US Air in the bankruptcy scrap heap. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
