Re: CDR: Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-29 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim May wrote:

 The 2-4 year payback cycle in the electronics industry, from roughly 
 1955 to the present, was terribly important. Each generation of 
 technology paid for the next generation, and costly mistakes resulted 
 in companies ceasing to exist (Shockley Transistor, Rheem, Precision 
 Monolithics, and so on...the list is long).
 
 Successful products led to the genes (or memes) propagating. 
 Phenotypes and genotypes.
 
 This same model gave us, basically, the commercial automobile and 
 aviation industries.

I agree completely with what you're saying, and I'm not sure that Eugene
would agree with what I'm writing here.

One of the problems I think is rampant with, for instance, getting
alternate fuel sources off the ground is that government subsidies are
ensuring they don't happen by distorting the market for fossil fuels.

Ethically, the entire situation is absurd. Realistically, if someone
actually wants to try to build say, a hydrogen powered car, government 
interference in your business is a fact of life, and looking for angles
to Make It Work are the only way to attempt to compete. There are a
metric assload of good ideas that have been killed by government
interference in markets.

I know this is part of what you were saying. This is important to call
out.

-j

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Re: CDR: Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

2003-01-29 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim writes:

 There is no way to control fundamental breakthroughs, whether PV 
 conversion or caburetors that violate the laws of physics!. Any of 
 the above non-oil companies (and one can add Texas Instruments and 
 others to the list) which develops a more efficient, cheaper to 
 manufacture PV system will find success.

Ovshinsky, the amorphous semiconductor guy, developed a relatively
efficient photovoltaic film that could be manufactured by continuous
extrusion by a simple machine.

For some reason, that never hit the big time either.

While I will agree with you that fundamental breakthroughs cannot be put
back into Pandora's Box, some industries, like automobile manufacturing,
have high costs of entry due to regulation and safety requirements.

Thus, snidely saying you are free to start your own car company is just
a tiny bit disingenuous.

As a recent article linked from Slashdot informs us, gadgets sink or swim
based on The Whole Product, which includes not only the clever
engineering, but the service and support, availability of software,
interoperability, consumer culture, the upgrade path, and the perception
the company will be around tomorrow.

The typical Wintel PC contains not the best microprocessor, not the best
bus, most certainly not the best OS.  You are free to start your own
computer company, of course. 

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Eric Michael Cordian 0+
O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law