Re: Federal program to monitor everyone on the road

2004-10-01 Thread Hal Finney
There was a brief mention of this technology at the Crypto conference.
I provided some pointers in a comment to an Ed Felten blog entry at
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000677.html#comments (scroll
down to the 3rd comment).

Dan Boneh et al presented a proposal for a group signature scheme so that
the data collected would not be personally identifiable.  The problem is
that the data needs to be authenticated, otherwise rogue transmitters
could send false data and perhaps cause traffic flow problems or even
serious accidents.  So they want to use some cryptographic method.
Putting a common key in the whole system would make it too easy for
rogues to get access to, would be unrevocable, and we are back to the
rogue transmitter problem.  Using individual certified keys is the
default solution but has privacy problems: everyone would be constantly
transmitting a cryptographically verifiable record of their driving
patterns, speed, lane changing and who knows what else.

With the group signature, everybody has a unique key but their
transmissions are not bound to that key.  And if a key gets scraped
out and goes rogue, it can be revoked.  This is supposed to provide
flexibility, authentication, and privacy.

In practice I am skeptical that society will choose to protect privacy at
the expense of security.  One optional feature of group signatures is a
trusted party who can penetrate the anonymity and learn the identity of
the author of a particular message.  I suspect that any vehicle based
embedded communications system will retain that capability, a sort of
license plate in the virtual realm.  The ability to track the paths of
bank robbers and terrorists would be too inviting for society to give up,
especially if the data is only available to government agents.

Hal



Federal program to monitor everyone on the road

2004-10-01 Thread Sunder
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/10/01/federal_program_to_m.html

 Federal program to monitor everyone on the road

Interesting article about the Fed's plans to develop an all-knowing 
intelligent highway system.

Most people have probably never heard of the agency, called the 
Intelligent Transportation Systems Joint Program Office. And they haven't 
heard of its plans to add another dimension to our national road system, 
one that uses tracking and sensor technology to erase the lines between 
cars, the road and the government transportation management centers from 
which every aspect of transportation will be observed and managed.

For 13 years, a powerful group of car manufacturers, technology 
companies and government interests has fought to bring this system to 
life. They envision a future in which massive databases will track the 
comings and goings of everyone who travels by car or mass transit. The 
only way for people to evade the national transportation tracking system 
they're creating will be to travel on foot. Drive your car, and your every 
movement could be recorded and archived. The federal government will know 
the exact route you drove to work, how many times you braked along the 
way, the precise moment you arrived -- and that every other Tuesday you 
opt to ride the bus.


Link to actual story: http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/news_cover.html

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