Re: Jamming camcorders in movie theaters

2002-10-12 Thread Jay h
This idea will die once substantial numbers of movie goers start getting 
headaches and vertigo. 

I think this would be, at best, a Pyrrhic victory. 

j 

-- Original Message -- 
From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date:  Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:34:24 -0700 

>[They want to exploit human persistance-of-vision vs. camcorder pixel 
>differences. 
>Seems to me that one could process the captured frames to eliminate 
>artifacts, though that 
>*is* another step required.  In any case, insiders will have access to 
>the playback codes 
>opening the bits to duping.] 
> 




 





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Re: Jamming camcorders in movie theaters

2002-10-11 Thread alan
I read how they plan on doing this.  I predict it will give a percentage 
of the movie-going public screaming headaches.  (Or at least make them 
very uncomfortable.)  These are the same people who are sensitive to the 
flicker of cheap 60 hz office lighting.

Not that a bit of discomfort was any concern to the MPAA.  Look at the 
movies they put out!


On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> [They want to exploit human persistance-of-vision vs. camcorder pixel
> differences.
> Seems to me that one could process the captured frames to eliminate
> artifacts, though that
> *is* another step required.  In any case, insiders will have access to
> the playback codes
> opening the bits to duping.]
> 
> 
> Jamming camcorders in movie theaters
> 
>By Evan Hansen
>Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>October 10, 2002, 4:00 AM PT
> 
>As one of the key architects of the discontinued Divx
> DVD system, Robert
>Schumann knows first hand how hard it can be to sell
> copyright protection to the
>masses.
> 
>Still, some three years after Circuit City pulled
> financial support for the
>limited-use DVD technology he helped build, Schumann
> and a group of
>former Divx engineers are hoping for a second act in
> Hollywood with the
>advent of digital cinema.
> 
>Herndon, Va.-based Cinea, the company Schumann
> co-founded after Divx
>folded in 1999, is close to unveiling a beta for its
> Cosmos digital cinema
>security system that will help movie distributors
> keep track of how their products are used
>while protecting them from piracy.
> 
>Meanwhile, Cinea this week
>scored a $2 million grant from the
>National Institute of Standards
>and Technology's (NIST)
>Advanced Technology Program
>to develop a system that it claims
>will stop audience members from
>videotaping digital movies off
>theater screens.
> 
>The company "will modify the
>timing and modulation of the light
>used to create the displayed
>image such that frame-based
>capture by recording devices is
>distorted," according to an
>abstract for the winning NIST grant application. "Any
> copies made from these devices will
>show the disruptive pattern."
> 
>In an interview, Schumann compared the process with
> distortions that appear in videotaped
>images of computer screens, which may show lines that
> are invisible to the naked eye.
>Rather than produce accidental disturbances, he said,
> Cinea plans to create specific
>disturbances that it can control.
> 
>"Machines see the world more closely to reality than
> humans do. In the case of computer
>screens, if you track the energy from a phosphor
> coating (a light-emitting chemical used in
>cathode-ray tubes), you find that it begins with a
> strong burst followed by a period of
>decay and then another burst, and so on. But people
> see it as a single intensity," Schumann
>said.
> 
>Cinea, a privately held company with backing from
> Tysons Corner, Va.-based venture
>capital firm Monumental Venture Partners, expects to
> have a working prototype within two
>years. It is partnering with Princeton, N.J.-based
> Sarnoff, which will conduct research on
>image manipulation and analyze distortion and
> possible countermeasures. The University of
>Southern California's Entertainment Technology Center
> in Los Angeles will evaluate the
>system in testing with human subjects.
> 
>"There's a difference in the way a camcorder and the
> human eye see the world," Schumann
>said. "We've figured out some ways to exploit that.
> The trick is to make sure there is no
>negative impact on the viewing experience for the
> audience."
> 
> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-961484.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed
> 
> -
> Dear Mr Congressman, I am God
> -Jack Valenti




Jamming camcorders in movie theaters

2002-10-11 Thread Major Variola (ret)
[They want to exploit human persistance-of-vision vs. camcorder pixel
differences.
Seems to me that one could process the captured frames to eliminate
artifacts, though that
*is* another step required.  In any case, insiders will have access to
the playback codes
opening the bits to duping.]


Jamming camcorders in movie theaters

   By Evan Hansen
   Staff Writer, CNET News.com
   October 10, 2002, 4:00 AM PT

   As one of the key architects of the discontinued Divx
DVD system, Robert
   Schumann knows first hand how hard it can be to sell
copyright protection to the
   masses.

   Still, some three years after Circuit City pulled
financial support for the
   limited-use DVD technology he helped build, Schumann
and a group of
   former Divx engineers are hoping for a second act in
Hollywood with the
   advent of digital cinema.

   Herndon, Va.-based Cinea, the company Schumann
co-founded after Divx
   folded in 1999, is close to unveiling a beta for its
Cosmos digital cinema
   security system that will help movie distributors
keep track of how their products are used
   while protecting them from piracy.

   Meanwhile, Cinea this week
   scored a $2 million grant from the
   National Institute of Standards
   and Technology's (NIST)
   Advanced Technology Program
   to develop a system that it claims
   will stop audience members from
   videotaping digital movies off
   theater screens.

   The company "will modify the
   timing and modulation of the light
   used to create the displayed
   image such that frame-based
   capture by recording devices is
   distorted," according to an
   abstract for the winning NIST grant application. "Any
copies made from these devices will
   show the disruptive pattern."

   In an interview, Schumann compared the process with
distortions that appear in videotaped
   images of computer screens, which may show lines that
are invisible to the naked eye.
   Rather than produce accidental disturbances, he said,
Cinea plans to create specific
   disturbances that it can control.

   "Machines see the world more closely to reality than
humans do. In the case of computer
   screens, if you track the energy from a phosphor
coating (a light-emitting chemical used in
   cathode-ray tubes), you find that it begins with a
strong burst followed by a period of
   decay and then another burst, and so on. But people
see it as a single intensity," Schumann
   said.

   Cinea, a privately held company with backing from
Tysons Corner, Va.-based venture
   capital firm Monumental Venture Partners, expects to
have a working prototype within two
   years. It is partnering with Princeton, N.J.-based
Sarnoff, which will conduct research on
   image manipulation and analyze distortion and
possible countermeasures. The University of
   Southern California's Entertainment Technology Center
in Los Angeles will evaluate the
   system in testing with human subjects.

   "There's a difference in the way a camcorder and the
human eye see the world," Schumann
   said. "We've figured out some ways to exploit that.
The trick is to make sure there is no
   negative impact on the viewing experience for the
audience."

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-961484.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed

-
Dear Mr Congressman, I am God
-Jack Valenti