Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> I've been amazed that Bush's handlers didn't straighten him out on
> "nuculur" long ago.   Why are they trying to keep him looking ignorant?

Are you sure they didn't try? :)




Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-13 Thread Bill Stewart
By PAUL KRUGMAN
George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein 
as "Churchillian."

Short, rude, drunk?  As far as that goes, sure, he's Churchillian.
But he's not even up to the standards of "meet the new Bush,
same as the old Bush, fool me...ummm...can't get fooled again";
Bush the Elder may have been evil, but he was somewhat competent.

Tim writes, on behalf of Shrub

"These Evil Doers have nucular weapons of mass destruction."
"I know I mispronunciate "nucular." My bad."


I've been amazed that Bush's handlers didn't straighten him out on
"nuculur" long ago.   Why are they trying to keep him looking ignorant?




Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 03:53  PM, Steve Schear wrote:


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By PAUL KRUGMAN

George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam 
Hussein as "Churchillian." Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that 
matter about everything else  have been notably lacking in promises 
of blood, toil, tears and sweat. Has there ever before been a leader 
who combined so much martial rhetoric with so few calls for sacrifice?

Or to put it a bit differently: Is Mr. Bush, for all his tough talk, 
unwilling to admit that going to war involves some hard choices? 
Unfortunately, that would be all too consistent with his governing 
style. And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a 
lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp 
out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to 
rebuild Iraq  is a large factor in the growing rift between Europe 
and the United States.

Perhaps, but Bush is more better at talking, plain like, than that guy 
"Churchillian," whoever the fuck he is.  George tells it like it is:

"We're gonna kick some Iraqi bee-hind."

"These Evil Doers have nucular weapons of mass destruction."

"I know I mispronunciate "nucular." My bad."




--Tim May
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a 
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also 
into you." -- Nietzsche



NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
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By PAUL KRUGMAN

George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein 
as "Churchillian." Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about 
everything else  have been notably lacking in promises of blood, toil, 
tears and sweat. Has there ever before been a leader who combined so much 
martial rhetoric with so few calls for sacrifice?

Or to put it a bit differently: Is Mr. Bush, for all his tough talk, 
unwilling to admit that going to war involves some hard choices? 
Unfortunately, that would be all too consistent with his governing style. 
And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith 
in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath 
of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq  is a large factor 
in the growing rift between Europe and the United States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/11/opinion/11KRUG.html


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