Re: Patriot Insurance

2004-12-01 Thread James A. Donald
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On 25 Nov 2004 at 21:42, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Well, I guess I agree. However, there is some issues of 
> Cypherpunkly importance here, particularly concerning 
> nation-states fighting other nation-states. Though I can't 
> consider myself a true-believing anarchist, my own personal 
> reason for continuing to post on the subject was to 
> illustrate that, as long as Group-of-Bandits X continues to 
> utilize our tax dollars to fuck over geographically removed 
> Group of Bandits Y (and their citizenry), then some form of 
> local resistance a la Blacknet (and arguably more drastic 
> measures) might be called for, irregardless of how much 
> Group-of-Bandits X (and their hypnotized citzenry) believe 
> they're marching on God's orders.

I would like to clarify my own position, which is in some 
important ways different from your own:  I am not in favor of 
myself, or any one else in America, being sacrificed for the 
greater good of Iraqi democracy, and since Iraqi democracy is 
likely to consist of 51% voting to bugger the other 49%, I can 
understand the position of those Iraqis who are fighting to 
resist the imposition of democracy.  But if they fight by 
taking hostages and mutilating them on television, then by all 
means let us have them sodomized.  I don't want Americans sent 
to fight by their stupid government, but if they are sent to 
fight, I am in favor of them winning and the guys they are 
fighting dying, and if it means destroying the village to save 
it, serves the goat fuckers right. 

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Re: Patriot Insurance

2004-11-29 Thread Chuck Wolber
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Steve Furlong wrote:

> It's been a while since I was in the US Army, but I'm sure that the life 
> insurance we had didn't cover parachute-related deaths and I vaguely 
> recall it didn't cover combat deaths. Kinda serious omissions, from the 
> soldier's point of view.

If I'm not mistaken, that's because there are other provisions elsewhere 
in a soldier's "benefit" package to cover those omissions. I know not what 
those would be atm.

-Chuck


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Re: Patriot Insurance

2004-11-29 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, I guess I agree. However, there is some issues of Cypherpunkly 
importance here, particularly concerning nation-states fighting other 
nation-states. Though I can't consider myself a true-believing anarchist, my 
own personal reason for continuing to post on the subject was to illustrate 
that, as long as Group-of-Bandits X continues to utilize our tax dollars to 
fuck over geographically removed Group of Bandits Y (and their citizenry), 
then some form of local resistance a la Blacknet (and arguably more drastic 
measures) might be called for, irregardless of how much Group-of-Bandits X 
(and their hypnotized citzenry) believe they're marching on God's orders.

-TD
From: Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Patriot Insurance
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:16:02 +0100
Can we please get out of the regional fixation? The cypherpunks list isn't
about the US, US pissant wars, and similiar boring backwater shit.
It's too bad this list is dying a death of a thousand paper cuts inflicted 
by
moronic posts, as so many others had. I haven't used a
.procmailrc in a couple years, perhaps we can postpone this with a little
collective effort.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 01:38:58PM +, Will Morton wrote:
>"US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk
> their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance.
> This includes resident aliens.
>Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor
> helping to rebuild war torn countries,  a missionary volunteering to
> help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to
> support our economy we can help.
>Using  our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able
> to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the
> world's most dangerous places.   This includes US citizens living 
abroad."
>
>http://www.uspfinancial.com/
>
>How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life
> insurance?  Would love to see their actuarial process...
>
>W
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Re: Patriot Insurance

2004-11-29 Thread Eugen Leitl

Can we please get out of the regional fixation? The cypherpunks list isn't
about the US, US pissant wars, and similiar boring backwater shit.

It's too bad this list is dying a death of a thousand paper cuts inflicted by
moronic posts, as so many others had. I haven't used a
.procmailrc in a couple years, perhaps we can postpone this with a little
collective effort.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 01:38:58PM +, Will Morton wrote:
>"US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk 
> their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance.   
> This includes resident aliens.
>Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor 
> helping to rebuild war torn countries,  a missionary volunteering to 
> help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to 
> support our economy we can help.
>Using  our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able 
> to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the 
> world's most dangerous places.   This includes US citizens living abroad."
> 
>http://www.uspfinancial.com/
> 
>How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life 
> insurance?  Would love to see their actuarial process...
> 
>W
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Re: Patriot Insurance

2004-11-25 Thread Steve Furlong
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 08:38, Will Morton wrote:
> How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life 
> insurance?  Would love to see their actuarial process...

It's been a while since I was in the US Army, but I'm sure that the life
insurance we had didn't cover parachute-related deaths and I vaguely
recall it didn't cover combat deaths. Kinda serious omissions, from the
soldier's point of view.




Patriot Insurance

2004-11-25 Thread Will Morton
   "US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk 
their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance.   
This includes resident aliens.
   Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor 
helping to rebuild war torn countries,  a missionary volunteering to 
help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to 
support our economy we can help.
   Using  our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able 
to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the 
world's most dangerous places.   This includes US citizens living abroad."

   http://www.uspfinancial.com/
   How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life 
insurance?  Would love to see their actuarial process...

   W