Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Tyler Durden
JAT wrote...
Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists.
and
Um, I'm sorry - maybe you hadn't heard yet: that old piece of paper was
superceded on 11 Sep 01, when everything changed.
I think that's the day we came out of the closet.
Read, Radio Free Albemuth by P.K. Dick and you'll get the picture of where 
we're headed.

-TD
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Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread Nomen Nescio
Why don't Americans honour security and privacy higher?

Look at this page
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.ht
ml

Which is from a police department!
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/


If we look at the spirit of this quote I don't see how it is ok to
behave in this abusive manner by the authorities.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
not be violated... 

(from the fourth amendment, US constitution)

It is one thing if we're talking about very dangerous individuals who
are being sought after by the police and who the public needs to be
aware of but here we have a completely different situation.

Why is the integrity and security of the simple man on the street not
honoured in the US society today? It's a big difference between the
protection of personal privacy in Europe and in the US and all
Americans should really ask themselves why this has to be.






Re: Poor privacy protection in the states

2004-10-13 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Nomen Nescio wrote:

 Why don't Americans honour security and privacy higher?

Good question.

Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists.


 Look at this page
 http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.ht
 ml

Hey,
Tinklenberg, Chi Christine
Home: Saint Paul, MN
Age: 34
Height: 5-03
Weight: 120

is kinda cute!


 Which is from a police department!
 http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/depts/police/


 If we look at the spirit of this quote I don't see how it is ok to
 behave in this abusive manner by the authorities.

Join the club.  next...


 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
 papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
 not be violated...

 (from the fourth amendment, US constitution)

Um, I'm sorry - maybe you hadn't heard yet: that old piece of paper was
superceded on 11 Sep 01, when everything changed.

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