RE: Jewish wholy words..
Just remember this [C]Hanu[k]ka[h] that the Macabbees were terrorists from the POV of the dominant hegemony... Oh, but the [solstice-coopted 'holiday'] is about someone topping off oil, not about rebellion against domination. Ooops. Nope, no parallels here.
RE: Jewish wholy words..
On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:46, "Tyler Durden" wroye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Jewish wholy words.. > > No. > > Technically speaking, only the Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible, > written by Moses) are technically "scripture"...everything else is > commentary. Doesn't the commentary have equal if not superior status? Sanhedrin 59a I took the trouble to look up. In fact it says that a non-Jew who studies the Torah deserves death. It also says he is a "High Priest" and rounds off with a discussion of which animals one may cut living parts from and eat. Whether googling the rabbinical Law qualifies me for the death penalty is unclear. cheers, Tim
RE: Jewish wholy words..
The idea of Jewish "Scripture" is far more complex than can be described in a short amount of time. Clearly, the Torah is far more important than anything, even the other books of the "Old Testament" (for Jews the Old testament is actually in 3 or 4 books). The Torah is the only piece of Jewish scripture said to be dictated letter-by-letter to Moses. Now there are several "rings" of lesser works concentric around the Torah, including the Talmud and the Mishra and then a couple of dozens of centuries of other stuff. The Talmud is often called the "Oral Torah", but even this designates a slightly inferior status, being the written version of words originally spoken by Moses. The Mishnah are not scriptures at all, technically, though they can be given great reverence depending on the Rabbi that wrote/spoke a particular section. Contrast that to the Protestant notion of Go/NoGo for scriptures...we don't even have the Apocryhpa anymore, despite the fact that Martin Luther had it in his Bible and quoted from it. It's eaither divinely inspired or it ain't...a simplisitic idea that probably helped spread Protestantism to the poor and uneducated. In short, it's silly to somehow get on the Jews for something that shows up in some commentary written 20 centuries ago (eg, Baylonian Talmud). -TD From: Tim Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jewish wholy words.. Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:51:48 +1100 On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:46, "Tyler Durden" wroye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Jewish wholy words.. > > No. > > Technically speaking, only the Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible, > written by Moses) are technically "scripture"...everything else is > commentary. Doesn't the commentary have equal if not superior status? Sanhedrin 59a I took the trouble to look up. In fact it says that a non-Jew who studies the Torah deserves death. It also says he is a "High Priest" and rounds off with a discussion of which animals one may cut living parts from and eat. Whether googling the rabbinical Law qualifies me for the death penalty is unclear. cheers, Tim
Re: Jewish wholy words..
Thus spake Nomen Nescio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01/12/04 15:11]: : Is it true that the jews have these texts in their scriptures? While it may or may not be true, I sincerely doubt these words are wholy.
RE: Jewish wholy words..
No. Technically speaking, only the Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible, written by Moses) are technically "scripture"...everything else is commentary. -TD From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jewish wholy words.. Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:30:05 +0100 (CET) Is it true that the jews have these texts in their scriptures? #1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim (Gentiles) is like killing a wild animal." #2. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." #3. Yebamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age." #4. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed." #5. Yebamoth 98a: "All gentile children are animals." #6. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean." #7. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
