Re: Carnivore No More

[R.A. Hettinga]

At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>it is believed that unspecified
>   commercial surveillance tools are employed now.

It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with.

The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the credit.

Cheers,
RAH
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Re: Carnivore No More

[Steve Thompson]

 --- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >it is believed that unspecified
> >   commercial surveillance tools are employed now.
> 
> It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with.
> 
> The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the
> credit.

At least we now know that the capabilities of the FBI in this 
regard are at least equivalent to that which a good Linux admin
can deploy when he has control of your upstream link.  The FBI 
cannot argue in court that their network eavesdropping capabilities
require secrecy and non-disclosure.  Sure they can pretend that
the userland tools are super high-tech, but the analysis and 
inteception of arbitrary network traffic is not rocket science.


Regards,

Steve


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