Re: terror alert red

2003-03-22 Thread Declan McCullagh 
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 01:15:02PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
 But this wasn't a press announcement by the governor -
 this was a press announcement by the state terrorism czar

One response (took long enough):
http://www.politechbot.com/p-04575.html

-Declan

Re: terror alert red

2003-03-21 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer 
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:31:59 -0600, you wrote:

Has anyone heard any more about the announcement made by the NJ gov that if
 we go to the next level -- red -- that everyone is confined to their houses?


Nope, but it's not surprising since there was NO announcement by 
the NJ gov that red means confinement to the house. If someone 
want to confine NJ residents to their homes, they need a 
conviction and sentence or a bond order from a judge that 
specifies that, or a legal declaration of martial law followed 
by such an order to the people.

Surely you don't think some press announcement by a governor is 
sufficient to place millions of people under house arrest 
without due process, indictment, arraignment, etc.

Re: terror alert red

2003-03-21 Thread Bill Stewart 
At 04:00 PM 03/21/2003 +, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
Surely you don't think some press announcement by a governor is
sufficient to place millions of people under house arrest
without due process, indictment, arraignment, etc.
My memories of the 1968 riots are pretty fuzzy;
Wilmington Delaware was under National Guard occupation for
longer than any other city in a US state since the
War Between the States, but it was basically in the
black areas of downtown, and I was a kid out in the burbs.
The main effect was armed soldiers on streetcorners,
plus nighttime curfews at least at the beginning.
But this wasn't a press announcement by the governor -
this was a press announcement by the state terrorism czar
saying that if anything bad happens he'll be able to control it,
and it's the governor's job to make sure that the
State Police and National Guard don't do anything stupid like
listen to him if he decides to announce that he's in charge like Al Haig 
some day,
while letting him rattle his cage now to keep the Bush League PR Machine happy.