Re: Television
At 07:49 PM 1/8/2003, Tim May wrote: On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Anonymous wrote: [...]Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite increase in people never heard from before mounting attacks on list regulars? Indeed, someone must have posted the list address to Mother Jones or Utne Reader or somesuch. A lot of people unfamiliar with crypto, with crypto politics, or even marginally familiar with the issues of Clipper, Echelon, Carnivore, and liberty have appeared recently. I don't list regulars are exempted from attacks, but newcomers should at least know what the issues are. Most of the newcomers don't, and don't care that they don't know. Their motives are obvious. --Tim May Any new visitor reading the posts of Tim May will find many self-indulgent posts like the above. And comments from Tim, like yesterday's I hope someone kills your family within the next two weeks. Gee Tim, please teach us some of your great wisdom, so we can be like you. I'm so glad I found this list, with its regulars. It is a veritable pearl of the Internet! :-) Todd
Re: CDR: Re: Television
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: Sam Ritchie sneered: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? ~S Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite increase in people never heard from before mounting attacks on list regulars? Good, more power to them. Rage on people! -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org
Re: Television
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Todd Boyle wrote: And anyway, you don't come into a community that is working based on certain shared assumptions, and start questioning the assumptions. Actually that is -exactly- what one should do. No man is the communities nigger. Or as Decarte once said: If you want to have a open mind, at least once in your life you have to question everything. -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org
Re: Television
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Anonymous wrote: Sam Ritchie sneered: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? ~S Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite increase in people never heard from before mounting attacks on list regulars? Indeed, someone must have posted the list address to Mother Jones or Utne Reader or somesuch. A lot of people unfamiliar with crypto, with crypto politics, or even marginally familiar with the issues of Clipper, Echelon, Carnivore, and liberty have appeared recently. I don't list regulars are exempted from attacks, but newcomers should at least know what the issues are. Most of the newcomers don't, and don't care that they don't know. Their motives are obvious. --Tim May
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WOW! While I may agree that Tim May seems to like anarchy as long as he's in charge of it, he does come up with some truly destabilising and dangerous ideas every now and then. Like his alter ego Jim Choate, there's some real signal burried under that noise so at least token measures of respect every now and then are due. -TD PS: Where does one get a hold of the app you used to make that thing? _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Television
On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:01:22 -0500, you wrote: WOW! While I may agree that Tim May seems to like anarchy as long as he's in charge of it, he does come up with some truly destabilising and dangerous ideas every now and then. Like his alter ego Jim Choate, there's some real signal burried under that noise so at least token measures of respect every now and then are due. I've never come across a Tim May post that I thought wasn't worth the time it took to read it. They are all either amusing, informative, or provocative, or some combination of those. I like that. I can't say that about many other posters.
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Does anyone have a pointer to software that will create messages
like this? Could be a great opportunity for stego - just replace the
# characters with random ones. Then let there be an option to either
use a crypto RNG for the random char choice, or to load in a stealthed
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All we need is a nice ascii-font-based program like this and the rest
would be easy. Anyone?
Re: Television
At 12:50 AM +0100 on 1/8/03, Nomen Nescio wrote: (more at the bottom) Thank you, no, if you don't mind... Damn. I was so excited, but now I'm just depressed. Young Master Durden *isn't* channeling me, after all... He's just channeling Vulis (spit!). ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Television
While I may agree that Tim May seems to like anarchy as long as he's in charge of it, he does come up with some truly destabilising and dangerous ideas every now and then. Like his alter ego Jim Choate, there's some real signal burried under that noise so at least token measures of respect every now and then are due. And anyway, you don't come into a community that is working based on certain shared assumptions, and start questioning the assumptions. The conversation begins with some premises. It doesn't start at zero, in every post. You're supposed to work on topic. Like, you don't go into a bible meeting and start questioning whether Jesus really rose from the dead. We know those are Christians, and you're never going to change their minds. You're only allowed to discuss whether suicide bombers are sinners. Stuff like that. Todd
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On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 06:06 PM, AARG! Anonymous wrote: Re- which software does big letters, I can just say that I am appalled by the ignorance. It's the standard unix banner program, some 20 years old. ## # I remember it from the late 60s, well over _30_ years ago. (I know because a famous Playmate from around 1967-68, Myers was her name IIRC, was very widely printed out circa 1970, and probably earlier.) But Tyler and all the other wet-behind-the-ears children are no doubt impressed by the retro look. Fer shure! --Tim May
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Sam Ritchie sneered: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? ~S Am I just imagining it, or is there a definite increase in people never heard from before mounting attacks on list regulars?
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On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 07:26 PM, Sam Ritchie wrote: Hmmm, is someone a wittle upset over a certain recent textual reprimand? No need for petty schoolyard insults, May. What happened to the new year's resolution you made? I hope someone kills your family within the next two weeks. --Tim May
Re: Television
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Nomen Nescio wrote: It's amusing that Mr. May thinks that anyone gives a fuck if he (Mr. May) filters him/her out for whatever reason and considers worthwhile/effective effort to explain that reason at length every time, and yet doesn't consider that similar and far more intensive efforts by the state-directed mass media are as well effective. (more at the bottom) [...] That was rude and impolite. But I couldn't stop laughing for quite a while :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
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A trivial point, barely worth making time for, but folks ought not to
think that brainwashing via t.v. has _anything_ substantively causal to
do with the sad state we are in today.
It's amusing that Mr. May thinks that anyone gives a fuck if he (Mr. May) filters
him/her out for whatever reason and considers worthwhile/effective effort to explain
that reason at length every time, and yet doesn't consider that similar and far more
intensive efforts by the state-directed mass media are as well effective.
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Television
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:04 AM, Bill Stewart wrote: At 12:42 AM 01/07/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 05:14 PM 1/6/03 -0800, Michael Motyka wrote: BTW, I think I read somewhere that when the water gets too hot the frog just leaves. It was in print, it must be true. Perhaps it is. But if you put a TV in the pot with the frog, he gets distracted... And someone else nameless wrote that all you need to do is get 90% of the sheeple to not to watch TV for a month and you'd have a revolution too. I know a lot of people who don't watch any t.v. at all and who are no wiser or more revolutionary than anyone else. A trivial point, barely worth making time for, but folks ought not to think that brainwashing via t.v. has _anything_ substantively causal to do with the sad state we are in today. --Tim May
